Hi Nancy A general catch all term to describe a driver / loader / unloader of various delivery vehicles (often purchased white for ease of signwriting) White Van Man = man who drives / delivers / loads goods of all sorts In the Victorian period he would be driving a horse and cart but doing much the same job Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Umm, "White Van Man"? > > Can only make a guess... > > Nancy

Philip is a Farm Bailiff And Thomas is a Carter Boy (he helped the Victorian version of White Van Man) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Seeking help with the occupation of > Philip usher aged 35 years farm ? & > Thomas taylor aged 16 years ? >>From 1861 census RG9/751, page 16 > > Richie in a cool & breezy bowen

Hi Richie, ----- Original Message ----- From: "richiewright" <richiewright@westnet.com.au> > Seeking help with the occupation of > Philip usher aged 35 years farm ? & > Thomas taylor aged 16 years ? >>From 1861 census RG9/751, page 16 > > Many thanks inadvance > Richie in a cool & breezy bowen Philip - Farm Bailiff Thomas - Carter['s] Boy Regards, John Henley

Umm, "White Van Man"? Can only make a guess... Nancy "Be yourself. No one can say you're doing it wrong." Snoopy On 4/25/2011 6:27 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Philip is a Farm Bailiff > > And Thomas is a Carter Boy > (he helped the Victorian version of White Van Man) > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >

Just to say thank you to all the people who sent me information about Florance Jane and family, it is most appreciated. Regards Val

Hi List, in shorefditch haggerston but now emily balice wells who married THOMAS WISE in shoreditch in Dec 1903 thomas died in 1929 leaving emily alice wise a widow in the 1930s she is on the electorial roll in bethnal green but remains my brick wall now

According to a family tree on Ancestry her parents were William Curtis OTTER and Jane Anne LODGE. Her birth date is given as 27 Jul 1866. HTH Andy "If you Google, you will find." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <v.lee@ntlworld.com> To: <london@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [LON] Florence Jane OTTER birth help please > Hi, > > Can anybody help with the parents of Florence Jane OTTER born about 1871 > in Deptford, I know she married a Frederick Fogg in Sep quarter in 1894 in > Greenwich any help with her parents names would be most > appreciated.Thank you. > > Regards > > Val > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Can anybody help with the parents of Florence Jane OTTER born about 1871 in Deptford, I know she married a Frederick Fogg in Sep quarter in 1894 in Greenwich any help with her parents names would be most appreciated.Thank you. Regards Val

Hello List, Looking for Alfred SMITH b. 1907 who was living with his mother, Emily Selina SMITH nee SEGGER at 39 Milkwood Rd. SE Brixton on the 1911 Census. Also living there, was boarder, Benjamin WILSON b 1859 Widower who married Emily Selina in December 1911. Alfred's father was Charles John SMITH an able bodied seaman who married Emily Selina in 1906. With this surname, it is difficult to find out what happened to Charles or Alfred. Any suggestions? Cheers!.......Judy. Perth W.Australia

Can anyone tell me the likeliest burial ground / cemetery for someone who died in 1871 at 66 New Street, Mile En Old Town and where the records are most likely to be found. Robert in N Wales

Hello List, I posted this query a few weeks ago but only got one reply so I'm now looking again to see if anyone can come up with any inspirational suggestions! I recently traced the birth of my 3 x gt grandfather to the Thomas Coram Foundling Hospital, where he was admitted in 1802 at the age of 2 months and rebaptised Samuel Foot. His mother was Ann Thomas, born in Devon, a servant working in London, who was 'seduced by promises of marriage' by a certain William Hawkesley, a porter with Mrs Sheldon of 7 Milk Lane, Cheapside. Needless to say, the marriage never materialised and William disappeared from the face off the earth, evading all attempts by the Foundling Hospital authorities to track him down! Ann Thomas was apparently of 'good general character', apart from this one unfortunate lapse, but, after Samuel's admission to the Foundling Hospital, she too vanishes. I would like to see if I can trace either William or Ann. William does not appear in the 1841 Census so may have died; neither does Ann - she may have married or died. I can find no marriage or death record for either William or Ann in civil registration, London/Devon Parish records or Pallot's index. I've combed Ancestry using a birth date from 1760 onwards for either of them but no even vaguely suitable candidates have emerged. The Foundling Hospital records do not mention either Ann or William after the initial enquiries into Ann's petition to admit Samuel to the Hospital. Mrs Sheldon of Milk Lane seems to have moved on by 1841 as well. Samuel, incidentally, was indentured as an apprentice on 4 Aug 1818 to Thomas West, a surveyor, of 98 High St in the parish of St Mary le Bone. He was to be instructed in household matters and the business of a surveyor. New indentures were drawn up for him on 20 Feb 1820 to a Mr Stillies/Stillion (?), a tailor of 5 Pancras St, where Samuel would be instructed in his business, so apparently the surveying career didn't work out. In the 1841 Census, he is listed as 'in prison'. Anyone got any ideas where I can look now or what line of investigation I should follow? Many thanks, Jennifer

Hi Nan, At least three registers of combined marriages/banns from St Olave Bermondsey seem to be missing from Ancestry's collection, covering the period 1754-1772. These three registers do survive at LMA (callmarks P71/OLA/021, 022 and 023). >From the earlier database (1538-1812), the composite register of baptisms, marriages and burials P71/OLA/014 also seems to be missing, covering the period 1747-1777. I believe some of the St Olave registers are in poor condition, so perhaps they were not available for filming by Ancestry? Alternatively, there's a chance they've been filmed but are labelled wrongly in the database. You might want to try looking for them under other Bermondsey parishes. You could also try other St Olave parishes, such as St Olave Hart Street and St Olave Jewry (both in the City of London). Sorry this doesn't help much. Someone else may know more. Otherwise, it may be more productive to contact LMA than Ancestry! HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of NanDowling@aol.com I have a query regarding the London records on Ancestry , and i should state straight away that i have been in contact with them but as yet to no avail . Basically the problem is a missing segment of approx 29 yrs for the parish records of St Olave's Bermondsey between the years 1747 - 1776 . I have searched for a marriage event which is known to have taken place in 1760 at St Olave's in the index - London - Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921" but St Olave in this index only begins at 1777 onwards . The wider index - London - Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 - actually shows a break in all St Olave parish records for the era 1748-1776 . It would seem there is abt 29 years of Bap/Marriage/Burial records missing for this parish within these London collections on Ancestry . It may be relevant to also point out that in the Bap's,Marr's & Burials collection , the St Olave records are all in book form , whereas when the marriage records start up again in the 1754-1921 collection they are in the usual "marriage document " format showing name's /date/witness names etc . Ancestry have told me they are unaware of any missing records from their LMA collection but i am wondering if anyone onlist has any knowledge of this Parish and it's records and why there is this apparent gap ?

Pat, It might just be a coincidence but my grandmother worked for a Chambers family who owned a haberdashery in Wandsworth during WW1. The only one I ever heard her mention was a son named Denzil. Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Acorn Cottage <orange.wasps@live.co.uk> To: <LONDON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [LON] Chambers family in Wandsworth > Pat - you can do this yourself on a pay-to-view basis. Unless someone can > get free access at a Library, everyone has to pay. > > Ruth > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Copeland > > Sent: 16 April 2011 14:54 > > To: LONDON@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [LON] Chambers family in Wandsworth > > > > I noticed that Ancestry has 1911 census summary sheets. While > > I was reviewing our Chambers families addresses, I discovered > > there is a Chambers family living at 68 Bendon Valley, Civil > > parish of Wandsworth. There are 4 males and 2 females living > > there. Over the years the family moved around quite a bit and > > Bendon Valley was one of their addresses. Would anyone have > > access to the 1911 census that could tell me the names of the > > Chambers family at the Bendon Valley address? > > > > Much appreciated! > > > > Pat > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname > > interest list on the web at > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > > matching interests and add your own ! > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List , I have a query regarding the London records on Ancestry , and i should state straight away that i have been in contact with them but as yet to no avail . Basically the problem is a missing segment of approx 29 yrs for the parish records of St Olave's Bermondsey between the years 1747 - 1776 . I have searched for a marriage event which is known to have taken place in 1760 at St Olave's in the index - London - Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921" but St Olave in this index only begins at 1777 onwards . The wider index - London - Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 - actually shows a break in all St Olave parish records for the era 1748-1776 . It would seem there is abt 29 years of Bap/Marriage/Burial records missing for this parish within these London collections on Ancestry . It may be relevant to also point out that in the Bap's,Marr's & Burials collection , the St Olave records are all in book form , whereas when the marriage records start up again in the 1754-1921 collection they are in the usual "marriage document " format showing name's /date/witness names etc . Ancestry have told me they are unaware of any missing records from their LMA collection but i am wondering if anyone onlist has any knowledge of this Parish and it's records and why there is this apparent gap ? Any help/advice much appreciated , Kind regards Nancy Dowling -

Pat, if you put CHAMBERS in the last name box and Wandsworth in the place of residence box in the 1911 search at http://www.1911census.co.uk/ you will get a list of all the CHAMBERS living in Wandsworth and you can at least check and see if your family names are there. FMP who are the only ones to have the full 1911 on line at the moment have strict rules against doing look-ups, and you have to pay for it, so it is unlikely anyone else will look for you. This might at least indicate whether it's worth you buying some units. HTH Anne On 16 Apr 2011, at 14:54, Patricia Copeland wrote: > I noticed that Ancestry has 1911 census summary sheets. While I was > reviewing our Chambers families addresses, I discovered there is a Chambers > family living at 68 Bendon Valley, Civil parish of Wandsworth. There are 4 > males and 2 females living there. Over the years the family moved around > quite a bit and Bendon Valley was one of their addresses. Would anyone have > access to the 1911 census that could tell me the names of the Chambers > family at the Bendon Valley address? > > Much appreciated! > > Pat

Hi All,   Probably a big ask, but does anyone living near Hanwell Cemetery could photograph a grave for me? I have the exact location stated in the will, so it shouldn't be too difficult. I'll be really grateful   Thanking in anticipation   George

Pat - you can do this yourself on a pay-to-view basis. Unless someone can get free access at a Library, everyone has to pay. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Copeland > Sent: 16 April 2011 14:54 > To: LONDON@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LON] Chambers family in Wandsworth > > I noticed that Ancestry has 1911 census summary sheets. While > I was reviewing our Chambers families addresses, I discovered > there is a Chambers family living at 68 Bendon Valley, Civil > parish of Wandsworth. There are 4 males and 2 females living > there. Over the years the family moved around quite a bit and > Bendon Valley was one of their addresses. Would anyone have > access to the 1911 census that could tell me the names of the > Chambers family at the Bendon Valley address? > > Much appreciated! > > Pat > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname > interest list on the web at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Anne Thanks for setting me straight. My apologies. I did have a subscription to BMP and the 1911 last year and thought I had found all that I could find. Yesterday I noticed the Bendon Valley entry and couldn't remember if I had seen that one. I wasn't aware of that address last year. Thanks again. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Anne Peat [mailto:anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk] Sent: 16 April 2011 10:56 To: Patricia Copeland Cc: LONDON@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LON] Chambers family in Wandsworth Pat, if you put CHAMBERS in the last name box and Wandsworth in the place of residence box in the 1911 search at http://www.1911census.co.uk/ you will get a list of all the CHAMBERS living in Wandsworth and you can at least check and see if your family names are there. FMP who are the only ones to have the full 1911 on line at the moment have strict rules against doing look-ups, and you have to pay for it, so it is unlikely anyone else will look for you. This might at least indicate whether it's worth you buying some units. HTH Anne On 16 Apr 2011, at 14:54, Patricia Copeland wrote: > I noticed that Ancestry has 1911 census summary sheets. While I was > reviewing our Chambers families addresses, I discovered there is a > Chambers family living at 68 Bendon Valley, Civil parish of > Wandsworth. There are 4 males and 2 females living there. Over the > years the family moved around quite a bit and Bendon Valley was one of > their addresses. Would anyone have access to the 1911 census that > could tell me the names of the Chambers family at the Bendon Valley > address? > > Much appreciated! > > Pat

Is this the one in 1911 census KOPP CHARLES M 1909 2 St Pancras which could be this birth Robert Charles Kopp Year of Registration: 1908 Oct-Nov-Dec DISTRICT: St Pancras Volume: 1b Page: 21 Only Kopp I could find so looks like fore names preferences change by census I could not see anything on him ie marriage or death etc So might be worth researching as your eventual Burton As the Burton are kind of important to Charles it might be worth researching them further Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

Have you checked findagrave? http://www.findagrave.com They list two Hanwell Cemeteries in the greater London area. If you know which one is *yours*, you might find the picture already posted there. If it isn't, you can make a request of a findagrave volunteer, who will photograph the stone and post it to the site. It's all quite simple and then can be seen by others researching your family. HTH. Nancy "Genealogy: social networking for dead people." ~ Unknown On 4/16/2011 10:27 AM, GEORGE LIAKOSGM wrote: > Hi All, > > Probably a big ask, but does anyone living near Hanwell Cemetery could photograph a grave for me? I have the exact location stated in the will, so it shouldn't be too difficult. I'll be really grateful > > Thanking in anticipation > > George >