Hi Richie: Would it be possible to view Lewis Hambley's death certificate? Perhaps it gives how many years in West Australia (or wherever he died) and if from another state, how many years in that state or Australia in general. For example, several of my Victorian folks arrived and lived for a time in New South Wales, so their death certs say xx years in NSW and xx years in Vic. (xx being the number of years). Just a thought. Glenys (keeping my dog out of the wind!) Message: 2 Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:33:47 +1000 From: "richiewright" <richiewright@westnet.com.au> Subject: [LON] hambly To: <LONDON@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: < A9F9A2039CAE46399155FC0B8B5880E1@L3N5891> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Seeking help in finding immigration details for Lewis hambly abt1882 Pelynt,(near Plymouth)Cornwall Lewis last appears on the 1891 uk census as a 19 year old Then appears on the 1903 electoral roll in Western Australia Lewis hambly m Eleanor Barker 1909 Ravensthorpe - Western Australia Having no luck in finding his arrival details in western Australia Possible arrivals in nsw Australia Any advice would be appreciated Richie in a cold & blustery bowen (would blow the spots off a dog) -- Glenys www.quietacre.net

All ? I looked in the archives to find one reply... mine Difficult to have a conversation when you are not in the same room ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Many thanks to all > Great result whilst I sense this is the right bloke > I wonder as to why he was attracted to the west for the mining > When their would have been similar on the east coast of Australia > > In 12 months he moved across the country ? > One would have assumed that was a bold move in those days > > Richie in a very gusty bowen

I presume its just a typo but he appears in the 1901 census aged 19 As he was living in Cornwall at the time my suggestion is that he worked his passage to Australia and will not appear on a passenger list You are far more likely to find an incoming record into Australia than an outgoing from the UK , did he use a false name perhaps Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Seeking help in finding immigration details for > Lewis hambly abt1882 Pelynt,(near Plymouth)Cornwall > > Lewis last appears on the 1891 uk census as a 19 year old > Then appears on the 1903 electoral roll in Western Australia > Lewis hambly m Eleanor Barker 1909 Ravensthorpe - Western Australia > > Having no luck in finding his arrival details in western Australia > Possible arrivals in nsw Australia > > Any advice would be appreciated > Richie in a cold & blustery bowen (would blow the spots off a dog)

I have been going through newspaper articles of old and found an article in which an ancestor is mentioned. The quote is: "...the elder Dalton was a pharmacist graduated from the Academy of London." Given that his pharmacist, one Frederick Dalton, came to this continent in 1841 and was listed on the ships manifest as a "Chymist" so he would have had to attended and graduated before 1841. Can anyone point me towards this "Academy of London"? Thank you Bill Dalton in Gig Harbor, USA

Ancestry do have your grandmother with wonderful variations in spelling - you can put in Alternatives and that also means any cousins finding the records may contact you when they see the correction Sarah Walker Dabrymple 4 Sep 1881 David John Dabrymple, Helen Dick Dabrymple Whitechapel St Mary Tower Hamlets and Marguerite Mary Dabrymple 18 Jun 1879 Jane Annie Daloymgale 28 Jun 1875 You can search without surname but with parents given names Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-05-16 6:43 AM, nicholas wilson wrote: > Hello, > > Recently upon renewing my research into my Dalrymple grandmother's family, I > discovered the baptism details of three of her siblings on Ancestry.co.uk, > but no sign of the other three. Each of the former was christened at Saint > Mary's Church, Whitechapel, per LMA records available to Ancestry. All six > children were born in either Bow or Hackney within a space of five years and > so I wonder why I cannot find the details for all six. I am pretty sure all > the children were baptized at the same church even though the family moved > north to Hackney after the birth of the fourth child. I am aware that the > church was lost in the blitz but obviously some if not all the records were > saved. > > If I make a personal visit to the LMA am I likely to find a record of the > three 'lost' baptisms? At present I have George 1877, Helen 1879 and Henry > Wilson 1880. I do not have Jane Annie, 1876, Marguerite May 1879 and my > grandmother, Sarah Walker 1881. > > Thanks, > > Nick > > Richmond, B.C.

Nick, The baptisms are there, but mistranscribed by Ancestry. Name: Jane Annie Daloymgale Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1875 Baptism Date: 28 Jun 1875 Father's name: David John Daloymgale Mother's name: Helen Dick Daloymgale Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets Name: Marguerite Mary Dabrymple Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879 Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1879 Father's name: David John Dabrymple Mother's name: Helen Dick Dabrymple Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets Name: Sarah Walker Dabrymple Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1881 Baptism Date: 4 Sep 1881 Father's name: David John Dabrymple Mother's name: Helen Dick Dabrymple Parish or Poor Law Union: Whitechapel St Mary Borough: Tower Hamlets HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nicholas wilson Recently upon renewing my research into my Dalrymple grandmother's family, I discovered the baptism details of three of her siblings on Ancestry.co.uk, but no sign of the other three. Each of the former was christened at Saint Mary's Church, Whitechapel, per LMA records available to Ancestry. All six children were born in either Bow or Hackney within a space of five years and so I wonder why I cannot find the details for all six. I am pretty sure all the children were baptized at the same church even though the family moved north to Hackney after the birth of the fourth child. I am aware that the church was lost in the blitz but obviously some if not all the records were saved. If I make a personal visit to the LMA am I likely to find a record of the three 'lost' baptisms? At present I have George 1877, Helen 1879 and Henry Wilson 1880. I do not have Jane Annie, 1876, Marguerite May 1879 and my grandmother, Sarah Walker 1881. Thanks, Nick Richmond, B.C.

According to the National Archives index for 1891 it was near Bath Row. Bath Row is now Ramsgate Street according to <http://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/Old_to_New_Abolished_London_Street_Names.htm> This is Ramsgate St on a modern map http://tinyurl.com/44fqu5z It looks very modern when you use Street View, so I would imagine Dyssal St might have disappeared by now. So it was north of Dalston Lane HTH Anne On 15 May 2011, at 16:36, Gill Jones wrote: > Could some SKS enlighten me as to where Dyssall Street is in West Hackney. The 1891 census RG12/187 page 42 has the parish of St John at Hackney and the Residential Parish or District of St Marks at Dalston. A modern map ref would be very useful. > > Thanks > > Gill > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1500/3637 - Release Date: 05/14/11 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could some SKS enlighten me as to where Dyssall Street is in West Hackney. The 1891 census RG12/187 page 42 has the parish of St John at Hackney and the Residential Parish or District of St Marks at Dalston. A modern map ref would be very useful. Thanks Gill ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1500/3637 - Release Date: 05/14/11

Hello, Recently upon renewing my research into my Dalrymple grandmother's family, I discovered the baptism details of three of her siblings on Ancestry.co.uk, but no sign of the other three. Each of the former was christened at Saint Mary's Church, Whitechapel, per LMA records available to Ancestry. All six children were born in either Bow or Hackney within a space of five years and so I wonder why I cannot find the details for all six. I am pretty sure all the children were baptized at the same church even though the family moved north to Hackney after the birth of the fourth child. I am aware that the church was lost in the blitz but obviously some if not all the records were saved. If I make a personal visit to the LMA am I likely to find a record of the three 'lost' baptisms? At present I have George 1877, Helen 1879 and Henry Wilson 1880. I do not have Jane Annie, 1876, Marguerite May 1879 and my grandmother, Sarah Walker 1881. Thanks, Nick Richmond, B.C.

Alas I see no likely marriage as you say Thomas Edward on GRO in Mar 1854 I can only find them in 1861 asa family and 1871 when Ann is a widow No sign of either in 1851 census - have you found them? Is Elmes a maiden name from a birth certificate? Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-05-11 7:37 PM, jenny lang wrote: > I am looking for a marriage between Thomas CORNELL and Ann ELMES in London. > If it happened it would have been between say 1846 and 1854. > He was born circa 1827 in Stratford, Essex and she circa 1829/31 in St Pancras. > First known child born circa 1854 in Bethnal Green. > I have searched hi& lo for this marriage and am beginning to think they never married unless someone can see something that I have missed.

Apologies! Slip of the finger, influenced by the index on Ancestry: that couple should of course have been William Henry GALLEY & Amelia TURNBULL not Turnball. Katie -----Oorspronkelijk bericht---Van: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens Katie de Haan Verzonden: woensdag 11 mei 2011 21:29 Aan: 'Anne Peat'; 'Dennis Galley' CC: LONDON@rootsweb.com Onderwerp: Re: [LON] Parish Record Lookup Hello Dennis, Anne and list, I think a couple William Henry GALLEY & Amelia TURNBALL (also indexed as GULLEY and RUMBALL!) were married in 1862 and in Poplar like their children's baptisms, rather than Whitechapel 1866, so it would be useful to know the names of the couple on the 1866 Whitechapel marriage. Katie de Haan The Netherlands

Hoping someone may be able to help. I am looking for a marriage between Thomas CORNELL and Ann ELMES in London. If it happened it would have been between say 1846 and 1854. He was born circa 1827 in Stratford, Essex and she circa 1829/31 in St Pancras. First known child born circa 1854 in Bethnal Green. I have searched hi & lo for this marriage and am beginning to think they never married unless someone can see something that I have missed. Hoping against hope. Kind RegardsJenny LangMellons BayHowick, Auckland, New Zealand//(*_*)\\

Hello Dennis, Anne and list, I think a couple William Henry GALLEY & Amelia TURNBALL (also indexed as GULLEY and RUMBALL!) were married in 1862 and in Poplar like their children's baptisms, rather than Whitechapel 1866, so it would be useful to know the names of the couple on the 1866 Whitechapel marriage. Katie de Haan The Netherlands -----Oorspronkelijk bericht---n: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens Anne Peat Verzonden: woensdag 11 mei 2011 19:45 Aan: Dennis Galley CC: LONDON@rootsweb.com Onderwerp: Re: [LON] Parish Record Lookup Hi Dennis, No exact match in the London England Births & baptisms on Ancestry. However there was a whole family of GALLEY children, parents William Henry & Amelia GALLEY baptised at All Saints Poplar on Feb 2nd 1875, including an Edward John GALLEY born Feb 2 1870. William Henry was a shipwright. Other siblings baptised that day Frederick Robert born 1865, Clara Rose 1867, Amelia 1872, Alice Eliza 1874. If you want more details, let me know. Anne On 11 May 2011, at 18:21, Dennis Galley wrote: > Hello: I am looking for the Baptism record for John GALLEY, who was > born in > 1868 @ Whitechapel, London. His parents were married on September 12, > 1866 @ St. Jude's Church, Commercial Street, Whitechapel, so I suspect > that he was likely Baptised there as well. Dennis Galley, Port Elgin, Ontario, Canada

I checked these marriages on Ancestry - London marriages and Thomas Cornell married Eliza Chick, Thomas Nunn married Ann Tarling. Regards, Annice -----Original Message----- I would check this one out. Couples often didn't marry until after the birth of one or more children - and as others have said Ann may have been using another name for some reason Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%) CHICK Eliza Poplar 1c 781 CORNELL Thomas Poplar 1c 781 Nunn Thomas Poplar 1c 781 Tarling Ann Poplar 1c 781 > > I am looking for a marriage between Thomas CORNELL and Ann ELMES in London. > If it happened it would have been between say 1846 and 1854. > He was born circa 1827 in Stratford, Essex and she circa 1829/31 in St Pancras. > First known child born circa 1854 in Bethnal Green. > I have searched hi & lo for this marriage and am beginning to think they never married unless someone can see something that I have missed. > Hoping against hope. > > Kind RegardsJenny LangMellons BayHowick, Auckland, New > Zealand//(*_*)\\

Hi Dennis, No exact match in the London England Births & baptisms on Ancestry. However there was a whole family of GALLEY children, parents William Henry & Amelia GALLEY baptised at All Saints Poplar on Feb 2nd 1875, including an Edward John GALLEY born Feb 2 1870. William Henry was a shipwright. Other siblings baptised that day Frederick Robert born 1865, Clara Rose 1867, Amelia 1872, Alice Eliza 1874. If you want more details, let me know. Anne On 11 May 2011, at 18:21, Dennis Galley wrote: > Hello: > > I am looking for the Baptism record for John GALLEY, who was born in > 1868 @ Whitechapel, London. His parents were married on September 12, 1866 @ > St. Jude's Church, Commercial Street, Whitechapel, so I suspect that he was > likely Baptised there as well. > > > > Dennis Galley, > > Port Elgin, Ontario, > > Canada

She married THOMAS WISE in 1903 in the same area he died in 1929 my quest is finding her death when she married she only used the name EMILY  WELLS  but as she was present at her husbands  death the certificate shows her as EMILY A WISE  I have recently found a marriage for EMILY ALICE WELLS IN 1935 in hampstead but my problem is did she revert back to the name wells for her second marriage or what is the leagle position if any I Think she may have stayed in 91 whiston street as she is there in the 1911 census under her full name with her husband and 2 children  I  recently bought a certificate for the death of an EMILY A WISE  in BROMLEY but it is the wrong one.  Or could she have been killed one of the many during the last war when whiston street was wiped of the face of the earth  she is now my brick wall in this family need help please   thanks pete. 

Shame but worth a try :- ) Anne On 11 May 2011, at 14:40, Caroline Bradford wrote: > Sound reasoning, Ann, but, alas, Thomas CORNELL married Eliza CHICK - it was > Thomas NUNN who married Ann TARLING (marriage register of Bromley St > Leonard, via Ancestry) > > Best wishes > > Caroline >> >> I would check this one out. Couples often didn't marry until after the >> birth of one or more children - and as others have said Ann may have >> been using another name for some reason >> >> Surname First name(s) District Vol Page >> Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%) >> CHICK Eliza Poplar 1c 781 >> CORNELL Thomas Poplar 1c 781 >> Nunn Thomas Poplar 1c 781 >> Tarling Ann Poplar 1c 781 >> >> HTH >> Ann >> On 11 May 2011, at 10:37, jenny lang wrote: >

Sound reasoning, Ann, but, alas, Thomas CORNELL married Eliza CHICK - it was Thomas NUNN who married Ann TARLING (marriage register of Bromley St Leonard, via Ancestry) Best wishes Caroline > > I would check this one out. Couples often didn't marry until after the > birth of one or more children - and as others have said Ann may have > been using another name for some reason > > Surname First name(s) District Vol Page > Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%) > CHICK Eliza Poplar 1c 781 > CORNELL Thomas Poplar 1c 781 > Nunn Thomas Poplar 1c 781 > Tarling Ann Poplar 1c 781 > > HTH > Ann > On 11 May 2011, at 10:37, jenny lang wrote:

I would check this one out. Couples often didn't marry until after the birth of one or more children - and as others have said Ann may have been using another name for some reason Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%) CHICK Eliza Poplar 1c 781 CORNELL Thomas Poplar 1c 781 Nunn Thomas Poplar 1c 781 Tarling Ann Poplar 1c 781 HTH Ann On 11 May 2011, at 10:37, jenny lang wrote: > Hoping someone may be able to help. > I am looking for a marriage between Thomas CORNELL and Ann ELMES in London. > If it happened it would have been between say 1846 and 1854. > He was born circa 1827 in Stratford, Essex and she circa 1829/31 in St Pancras. > First known child born circa 1854 in Bethnal Green. > I have searched hi & lo for this marriage and am beginning to think they never married unless someone can see something that I have missed. > Hoping against hope. > > Kind RegardsJenny LangMellons BayHowick, Auckland, New Zealand//(*_*)\\

Is it possible that Ann Elmes was previously married ? Therefore her maiden name is shown on a birth certificate but when she married Thomas she is indexed under her married name which we don't know. --- On Wed, 11/5/11, jenny lang <jjlang@xtra.co.nz> wrote: From: jenny lang <jjlang@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [LON] Elmes/Cornell marriage To: LONDON@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 10:37 Hoping someone may be able to help. I am looking for a marriage between Thomas CORNELL and Ann ELMES in London. If it happened it would have been between say 1846 and 1854. He was born circa 1827 in Stratford, Essex and she circa 1829/31 in St Pancras. First known child born circa 1854 in Bethnal Green. I have searched hi & lo for this marriage and am beginning to think they never married unless someone can see something that I have missed. Hoping against hope. Kind RegardsJenny LangMellons BayHowick, Auckland, New Zealand//(*_*)\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html .  Check for matching interests and add your own ! Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message