Alas no census in Aust all except very early ones destroyed - however there may be elexctoral rolls Anyway Looks like he brought the family with him Arrived Victoria 7 Feb 1885 on Iberia Mr Felix Werry abt 1845 Mrs Werry abt 1847 Miss Florence Werry abt 1881 Name: Felix Rickard Werry Death Place: S Y, Victoria Age: 32 Father's name: Wm Mother's name: Mary Ann Rickards Registration Year: 1886 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 14612 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Flor Louisa Werry Death Place: Cauld, Victoria Age: 13 Father's name: Felix Mother's name: Francis Louise Stapely Registration Year: 1893 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 5378 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Name: Frances Louise Werry Spouse Name: Jas Hall Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1897 Registration Number: 3054 Francis Louisa Hall Death Place: Spotsw, Victoria Age: 74 Father's name: Robt Minnette Mother's name: Ellen Swan Registration Year: 1951 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 1665 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-02 7:51 AM, Eve Ferguson wrote: > Hi All > I have been searching for the death of Felix Rickard Werry born Islington 1855 for some time!! > Today I decided to "look outside the Box" of UK and there it was in Australia 1886 > His wife Frances Louise Werry is still "hiding" they were married in 1883 in Hackney Felix and his 2 brothers were Lithographic Artists but no one mentioned that Felix had gone down under. > Now does anyone have access to Australian Census if there was one between 1883 and 1886 or if you can "see him" in Australia during that period to see if there is any other information about them. He was living with Frances Louisa her Husband Robert Holmes and their daughter Florence in 1881 Then Robert dies and Felix steps into the breach and marries Frances in 1883 So did he go to Australia with or without Frances and Florence?? sad he only had a short time before he died in 1886 > I wonder what the story was??? > Eve (Canada now)

phthisis..another name for tuberculosis...I had 7 of 12 children in our ancestry family die of this...liz of Bc Canada On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Tammy Butt wrote: > > > Hello > I hope someone can help me decipher the cause of death listed in the > Gro certificate for William exley 1859 I received. > I cannot make out all the letters but looks like 2 words > > Cause of Death > Pliltaisis Pulmona ? or maybe Ph_tysis Pulmonalis? 9 months > > I have tried googling a few variations but no luck . > William Exley was seven years old at time of death. 26 Feb 1859 > > I have been researching the children of my ggggrandfather Daniel Exley > and Ellen Bunce of London > who were born and died between census years 1839-1840, 1842-1850, > 1852-1860, 1862- 1870 > It is quite surprising but very common how many of their children died > so young. > Thank you > Tammy Exley Butt > Canada > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest > list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . > Check for matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers I am researching the following names DONKIN 1860 Chelsea, London> 1883 Westminster, London> 1901 Newington> 1904- 1906 Lambeth, London> 1926 Lewisham, London GADSDON 1808 Middlesex> 1832 London> 1835-1856 Islington, London> 1862-1864 Middlesex> 1866- 1871 Surrey> 1880 Newington, Surrey> 1881- 1890 Walworth, London> 1895 Lambeth London> 1900 Westminster, London> 1901 Newington, London> 1926 Lewisham, London> abt 1970 Western Australia LUCAS 1817-1865 Lyndhurst, Hampshire>1866 Ringwood,Hampshire> 1896 Croydon> 1897- 1907 Peckham, Surrey> 1936-1942 Lewisham, London>1969 Wandsworth, London> 1970- 2011 Western Australia SMALL 1800-1862 Ringwood, Hampshire WREN 1874 London> 1926 Southwark, London I am looking forward to an exchange of information Stephen Victor Oddy Hillarys Western Australia I use Skype

Hello, I am new to the list. I have been investigating various Rawlins Watchmakers in search of the family of my 3 great grandfather, Samuel Rawlins, who was identified as a watch finisher on the baptismal records for his children in 1845 at St. Barnabas Finsbury in Middlesex. I have come across a George Rawlins of Whitechapel who took on several apprentices in the 1770s and early 1780s. I have a copy of Watchmakers and Clockmakers of the World by Brian Loomes who also notes a George Spencer Rawlins, in London in 1802. I would love to know where I might look for parish records. I would appreciate any ideas of how to do more research on this family. Thanks, Bev W

hi, I too had an ancestor who claimed to have "Rothschild" connections..something about a christening gown loaned from Rothschilds? This ancestor did work "in service' before marriage from age 15, and has been proven to work for various noteworthies..but? me thinks MY ancestor was stretching things abit. liz of BC Canada On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:54 AM, David Roberts wrote: > My grandmother, Anna Sarah Maria BOND was born in Acton in 1870. Her > mother > died in 1885, when she was 15. She was, in her day, a good cook, and > I have > wondered how and where she learned these skills. She said that she > worked > for the Rothschild family, but I have no more detail. She was a > housekeeper > after her first husband died in 1901, and she remarried in 1905. > Perhaps it > was during this period that she may have worked for the Rothschilds. > > Does anyone know whether members of the Rothschild family lived in the > Acton/Gunnersbury/Chiswick area at that time? > > Any information would be much appreciated. > > > David Roberts > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest > list on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . > Check for matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My grandmother, Anna Sarah Maria BOND was born in Acton in 1870. Her mother died in 1885, when she was 15. She was, in her day, a good cook, and I have wondered how and where she learned these skills. She said that she worked for the Rothschild family, but I have no more detail. She was a housekeeper after her first husband died in 1901, and she remarried in 1905. Perhaps it was during this period that she may have worked for the Rothschilds. Does anyone know whether members of the Rothschild family lived in the Acton/Gunnersbury/Chiswick area at that time? Any information would be much appreciated. David Roberts

Burials in St. James Churchyard Croydon 1862 Name Abode When Buried Age John Dunham Croydon Common Nov. 30th 57 Isiah Sca(r n)defield Croydon Dec. 1st 83 not in BMD for Croydon. Edward Flemming Parchmore Farm Dec. 4th About 60yrs old. Miram Ramsey Bensham Lane Dec. 4th 23 George Day Croydon Common Dec. 6th 25 William Ralf Croydon Common Dec. 7th 34 Sophia Gream Addiscombe Road Dec. 10th 72 Martha Parker Croydon Dec. 23rd 76 The names I am researching are BROWN, PARKER, CHICK, HARPER from Croydon & Kent. " " " " " " THOMAS in Laugharne, BALDWINS in Knighton areas of Wales. Also from these areas too Crickhowell, Newcastle Emlyn, Ludlow, Downton Hall or any links to Mary Jane Thomas & Ernest Richard Baldwin both born in the 1880's. Colin Parker

Morning Have you considered joining/subbing to one of the Australian rootsweb lists? There are over 200 to choose from (a little daunting) but here are a few general ones ... http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-UK-LINKS.html http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-UK-LOOKUPS.html http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUSTRALIA.html The listers there will have a far greater knowledge of what resources are available for family historians. If you know whereabouts in Australia your ancestors settled, you may find a more specific list from the options. Start with http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ and type Australia in the lower of the 2 boxes. Hope this helps Heather On 01/06/2011 22:51, Eve Ferguson wrote: > > Hi All > I have been searching for the death of Felix Rickard Werry born Islington 1855 for some time!! > Today I decided to "look outside the Box" of UK and there it was in Australia 1886 > His wife Frances Louise Werry is still "hiding" they were married in 1883 in Hackney Felix and his 2 brothers were Lithographic Artists but no one mentioned that Felix had gone down under. > Now does anyone have access to Australian Census if there was one between 1883 and 1886 or if you can "see him" in Australia during that period to see if there is any other information about them. He was living with Frances Louisa her Husband Robert Holmes and their daughter Florence in 1881 Then Robert dies and Felix steps into the breach and marries Frances in 1883 So did he go to Australia with or without Frances and Florence?? sad he only had a short time before he died in 1886 > I wonder what the story was??? > Eve (Canada now)

Hi all. These are some burials that were on a page I copied from the register of burials for the above churchyard. I was looking for any Parker's or Brown's. The only Parker in this list is registered at Camberwell and not Croydon Surrey where he was buried. If you need a copy let me know. The graveyard no longer exsists as the church is now elderly housing and the stones have all been removed and were placed against the rear wall but I am unsure if they are still there. . Name Abode Burial Date Age Selina Wheeler Norwood Dec 15th Infant William Norris Norwood Dec 19th 62 Rebecca Toms Croydon Common Dec 22th 74 Susan Rook Thornton Heath Dec 22th 14mths George Parker Whitgift Hospital Croydon Dec 23rd 74. Laurel Stanley Croydon Dec 23rd 1 Ann Chesseman Croydon Dec 24th 64 Robert Edgar Buckley Croydon Common Dec 29th Infant I will post more names in the next couple of days in case it helps people. Colin.

Hi Ron Thank you for your reply but he has now been found married to Jane Robinson in 1866 and resident in Battersea in 1871 after which they both disappear. Regards Keith Jacobs -----Original Message----- From: Ron Lankshear [mailto:ronlank@yahoo.com.au] Sent: 04 June 2011 00:16 To: Keith Jacobs Cc: london@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LON] William George Jacobs - born 1831 St George Hanover Sq A possible William Jacobs Burial 10 Feb 1835 Age: 4 at Tooting Graveney Wandsworth Nothing else on image But then if whole family except your George disappears then perhaps all died in Cholera epidemic or something like it and burials just not on current records These migrants would appear unlikely This 21 year old Labourer arriving in USA but from Ireland William Jacobs 1850 born abt 1829 Passamaquoddy, Maine and also William Jacobs 11 Jun 1866 born abt 1830 Liverpool, England Irish Royal Standard to NSW New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, William Jacobs age 31 abt 1831 12 Nov 1862 on the Northumberland with Elizabeth Jacobs abt 1836 Emma Jacobs abt 1859 But 1861 has them and clearly not your man unless he moved to Wenhaston Suffolk and said he was born there RG9; Piece: 1182; Folio: 17; Page: 1 William Jacobs abt 1831 Wenhaston, Suffolk, England Head Betsy Jacobs abt 1836 Wenhaston, Suffolk, England Wife Emma Jacobs abt 1859 Wenhaston, Suffolk, England Daughter Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-04 1:53 AM, Keith Jacobs wrote: > Hi All > > I'm trying to find details of William George Jacobs born 1831 in St George > Hanover Sq. > > His parents were Joseph and Frances Ann (aka Fanny) Jacobs (my > grt-grt-grandparents). > Joseph was a Horse/Stable Keeper in Grosvenor Street in 1830's and had two > other sons > Charles Joseph born 1826 - died 1880 in Brighton > George Frederick born 1828 - died 1888 also in Brighton (Master Tailor) (my > grt-grandfather). > > None of the above appear in any Census, although I'm quite sure that George > Frederick is in the 1841 Census as George Jacob, aged 13, in Tavistock > Place, St Pancras, Marylebone as an apprentice resident with others who are > Tailors. >

Thanks to everyone on both lists who responded to my query about my manchester warehouseman. It seems the general concensus is that manchester in this case means cotton, not the city. Interesting to hear from New Zealand and Australia that that is still the case today. Funny how things change yet stay the same. Thanks again, Tracy >

I am trying to find more information about my 5 x Great Grandfather, Thomas Lindsell (or variants) who I believe established a Coach, Cart and Wheelwright business in 1740 located in East Street, Prittlewell, Essex where the present Railway Hotel now stands. The firms advert of the 18th century also reads 'agent for the leading manufactures of agricultural implements and basket carriages'. The business was subsequently run by my 4 x GG, 3 x GG and 3 x G Uncle until the premises and private house were destroyed by fire in November 1872. In the extract from the Parish Register Transcript of St Mary's, Prittlewell there is a baptism for John Lyndsey in 1769 and a Mary Linsey in 1772 both have parents listed as Thomas and Ann. Could these be the parents of my 4 x GG, Thomas born C1758? No other details about Thomas or Ann Lindsell have come to light. Can anyone please help with information on Thomas and Ann Lindsell (or variants) or the business itself? David Lindsell

A possible William Jacobs Burial 10 Feb 1835 Age: 4 at Tooting Graveney Wandsworth Nothing else on image But then if whole family except your George disappears then perhaps all died in Cholera epidemic or something like it and burials just not on current records These migrants would appear unlikely This 21 year old Labourer arriving in USA but from Ireland William Jacobs 1850 born abt 1829 Passamaquoddy, Maine and also William Jacobs 11 Jun 1866 born abt 1830 Liverpool, England Irish Royal Standard to NSW New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, William Jacobs age 31 abt 1831 12 Nov 1862 on the Northumberland with Elizabeth Jacobs abt 1836 Emma Jacobs abt 1859 But 1861 has them and clearly not your man unless he moved to Wenhaston Suffolk and said he was born there RG9; Piece: 1182; Folio: 17; Page: 1 William Jacobs abt 1831 Wenhaston, Suffolk, England Head Betsy Jacobs abt 1836 Wenhaston, Suffolk, England Wife Emma Jacobs abt 1859 Wenhaston, Suffolk, England Daughter Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-04 1:53 AM, Keith Jacobs wrote: > Hi All > > I'm trying to find details of William George Jacobs born 1831 in St George > Hanover Sq. > > His parents were Joseph and Frances Ann (aka Fanny) Jacobs (my > grt-grt-grandparents). > Joseph was a Horse/Stable Keeper in Grosvenor Street in 1830's and had two > other sons > Charles Joseph born 1826 - died 1880 in Brighton > George Frederick born 1828 - died 1888 also in Brighton (Master Tailor) (my > grt-grandfather). > > None of the above appear in any Census, although I'm quite sure that George > Frederick is in the 1841 Census as George Jacob, aged 13, in Tavistock > Place, St Pancras, Marylebone as an apprentice resident with others who are > Tailors. >

On 2011/06/03 19:37, Tracy Kasaboski wrote: > My Edward John (Percy) FULLER was a warehouseman much of his short life, > appearing variously on census records as "Warehouseman", "Cotton > Warehouseman", and "Manchester Warehouseman." He's found in Rotherhithe in > 1871 and 1881, and Greenwich in 1891, and in Camberwell in 1901, and doesn't > appear to have ever been to Manchester. > I know Manchester was the hotbed of the cotton industry in England, so when > he says he's a Manchester Warehouseman, would that mean he works for a > warehouse that stores cotton coming in off ships but which is eventually > bound for Manchester? Wouldn't Manchester's cotton industry have used a > closer port than London?Perhaps it was a warehouse owned by a company called > Manchester? Or was the word Manchester just synonymous at the time with > cotton? Manchester is an old name for a department in a store dealing with linen and cotton products. Hence, your Edward worked in a warehouse that handled cotton and linen products. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hi All I'm trying to find details of William George Jacobs born 1831 in St George Hanover Sq. His parents were Joseph and Frances Ann (aka Fanny) Jacobs (my grt-grt-grandparents). Joseph was a Horse/Stable Keeper in Grosvenor Street in 1830's and had two other sons Charles Joseph born 1826 - died 1880 in Brighton George Frederick born 1828 - died 1888 also in Brighton (Master Tailor) (my grt-grandfather). None of the above appear in any Census, although I'm quite sure that George Frederick is in the 1841 Census as George Jacob, aged 13, in Tavistock Place, St Pancras, Marylebone as an apprentice resident with others who are Tailors. Family tales suggest that William may have emigrated to Australia but I can't find him anywhere. Regards Keith Jacobs GOONs Member 3453 Researching the Baggarley name worldwide see http://www.baggarley.one.name

Many thanks to Ron for suggestion other possible deaths for Margaret and Andrew Hughes. Worth pursuing. Mary

Hello, My Edward John (Percy) FULLER was a warehouseman much of his short life, appearing variously on census records as "Warehouseman", "Cotton Warehouseman", and "Manchester Warehouseman." He's found in Rotherhithe in 1871 and 1881, and Greenwich in 1891, and in Camberwell in 1901, and doesn't appear to have ever been to Manchester. I know Manchester was the hotbed of the cotton industry in England, so when he says he's a Manchester Warehouseman, would that mean he works for a warehouse that stores cotton coming in off ships but which is eventually bound for Manchester? Wouldn't Manchester's cotton industry have used a closer port than London?Perhaps it was a warehouse owned by a company called Manchester? Or was the word Manchester just synonymous at the time with cotton? Thanks for any thoughts, Tracy in Ontario, Canada.

Yes I agree no sign of in 1911 or any deaths. As Andrew is in Wine perhaps working overseas? Ah 1901 she is Margaret Hughes and she understates her age. And I see a daughter Gladys born 1888 who must be Births Sep 1888 HENDERSON Gladys Helena Bromley 2a 40_ which leads to Marriages Sep 1907 HENDERSON Gladys Helena M Birmingham 6d 203 I assume the M initial maybe added for Margaret Possible deaths in Birmingham area Margaret Hughes abt 1855 Jan-Feb-Mar 1925 Birmingham North Margaret Hughes abt 1856 Apr-May-Jun 1925 Birmingham South Possible death for Andrew - but 1901 says born 1870/1 Andrew B Hughes abt 1875 Jan-Feb-Mar 1952 Wandsworth Probably one that is not yours Death Margaret Hughes abt 1858 Jan-Feb-Mar 1903 Lambeth as likely this MH in 1901 Margaret Hughes abt 1858 Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Head Lambeth Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-03 8:12 AM, Mary wrote: > Dear Listers, > I wonder if anyone can suggest how I can find what happened to Margaret after 1901. Margaret Wallace was born in Camden in 1858. She married Charles Henderson and had 5 children the youngest Reginald Paul born in 1898. Sadly the marriage ended in divorce and she married an Andrew Buchanan Hughes, a Scot in 1901. He was a wine supplies manager.In 1911 I can find no trace of Margaret, Andrew or son Reginald, in England or Scotland although Reginald does turn up later marrying and dying in Paddington in 1928 and 1951 respectively. This lead me to believe that Margaret and Andrew had not gone far, and convinced that a death in 1941 was Margaret sent for the death certificate, only to find that this lady was married to a Robert and not at all the woman I was searching. > I just don't know where to go next and any suggestions would be welcome. > Best wishes, > Mary

Dear Listers, I wonder if anyone can suggest how I can find what happened to Margaret after 1901. Margaret Wallace was born in Camden in 1858. She married Charles Henderson and had 5 children the youngest Reginald Paul born in 1898. Sadly the marriage ended in divorce and she married an Andrew Buchanan Hughes, a Scot in 1901. He was a wine supplies manager.In 1911 I can find no trace of Margaret, Andrew or son Reginald, in England or Scotland although Reginald does turn up later marrying and dying in Paddington in 1928 and 1951 respectively. This lead me to believe that Margaret and Andrew had not gone far, and convinced that a death in 1941 was Margaret sent for the death certificate, only to find that this lady was married to a Robert and not at all the woman I was searching. I just don't know where to go next and any suggestions would be welcome. Best wishes, Mary

Thank you Ron and Caroline - very much appreciated Maureen -----Original Message----- From: Ron Lankshear [mailto:ronlank@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2011 5:37 PM To: mcreyn02@tpg.com.au Cc: london@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LON] London street name suggestions I agree St Mary Le Bone As it really looks like Titchfield - although the ch bit is vague First glance it is Mary le Bow with a flourish but clicking the eye shows the w becoming n and the flourish is e as in e in midddlesex I'm trying to get to grips with 17th century registers in Somerset at the moment. Its the abbreviations that throw you Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-06-02 4:53 PM, mcreyn02@tpg.com.au wrote: > Possibly it's Saint Mary le Bone - h