Hi Simon I helped only yesterday with a similar case as the woman could not be found based on father on marriage cert. Finally everything pointed to one girl with a different name father. He died when she was 4 so I could only assume she had it wrong. Sadly the MC did not show his occupation. Your marriage cert does show John as a Rope Maker. Was William the same? (Yes it seems) A witness to marriage was Mary Ann Bygraves. I'd assume a sister although perhaps a cousin. A month later she marries Colin Buchan and Sophia Willcox is a witness. Mary Ann father is William and a Rope maker. I note that at the weddings most people put their mark so presumably they did not read... So a quick conclusion would be the vicar got confused and put the groom's name John as also the father and no one noticed... I tried to look at records but could not Soph* or Mary Ann in 1861 or 1871 census. or Sarah married to William or John for that matter.... 1881 Sophia Willcox says born 1852/53 Southwark. I see the birth you mention 1852 in Greenwich as Sophia Bygrave. Also Mary Ann in Greenwich 1854 unless she is a cousin and the one born in Stepney. But where are the family in census??? I'd like to see that Mary Ann is a sister? Please advise if found in census? Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-08-23 4:55 AM, Simon Martin wrote: > A relative, Sophie Bygraves, was born 20th January 1852 to William& > Sarah Bygraves. When she marries John Willcox on April 1st 1872, the > marriage certificate has Sophias' father as John Bygraves. I'm > somewhat confussed.

Simon, I have a similar thing on my grandparents' wedding certificate. The father of the groom, Thomas Sheridan, is also Thomas Sheridan. In fact he was Henry Richard Sheridan ( or Richard, Or Henry - but that's another story!) I think you have to remember that children often didn't know their parents' forenames - they didn't have the bits of paper we do, people didn't go round calling people by their forenames as we do, and many of them couldn't read. If the father had died some time before, or run off and left the family ( as my great grandfather did) it is quite possible the children didn't know what his forename was - so either invented one, or said the first name that came into their head. Can you establish by census, baptism records and parents' marriage what his forename was? HTH Anne On 22 Aug 2011, at 19:55, Simon Martin wrote: > I wonder if someone could explain or help? > > A relative, Sophie Bygraves, was born 20th January 1852 to William & > Sarah Bygraves. When she marries John Willcox on April 1st 1872, the > marriage certificate has Sophias' father as John Bygraves. I'm > somewhat confussed. > Simon > A Londoner in Liverpool

I wonder if someone could explain or help? A relative, Sophie Bygraves, was born 20th January 1852 to William & Sarah Bygraves. When she marries John Willcox on April 1st 1872, the marriage certificate has Sophias' father as John Bygraves. I'm somewhat confussed. Simon A Londoner in Liverpool

RILEY - Holborn Eliza RILEY born March quarter 1854 Holborn 1b 439 If I apply for the birth certificate for Eliza I understand I will get the maiden name of her mother or is there someone with access to birth registers? What I understand is: Mother: Ann Sophia RILEY (nee DURANT and formerly CURLINE) Father: James RILEY, Glass Silverer. Possibly living at 42 Grays Inn Lane (1851 Census) Also her sister Margaret RILEY born Dec quarter 1857 Holborn 1b 452 Many thanks Jennifer HUDSON Dunedin, New Zealand

Well Jennifer Ancestry parish register does have Eliza they live at 4 Providence Place Born 8 June 1854 Margaret not shown Parish registers for baptisms do not usually show mother's previous names. You would have to purchase the GRO certificate Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-08-22 2:23 PM, Jennifer and Grant Hudson wrote: > Eliza RILEY born March quarter 1854 Holborn 1b 439 > > If I apply for the birth certificate for Eliza I understand I will get the > maiden name of her mother or is there someone with access to birth registers? > What I understand is: > Mother: Ann Sophia RILEY (nee DURANT and formerly CURLINE) > Father: James RILEY, Glass Silverer. > Possibly living at 42 Grays Inn Lane (1851 Census) > > Also her sister > Margaret RILEY born Dec quarter 1857 Holborn 1b 452

Having worked with large numbers of certs, my first question would be - who gave the information for the marriage certificate? Or... who gave the information at the time of the birth? Do you have verification that "William" is correct? It always amazes me how often the informant was incorrect. I even had a birth certificate once where a baby's mother was listed as "Unknown"! Hello?? Nancy from Michigan in the U S of A P S - and have you documented that you have the *right* Sophie's certificate? "Our dreams keep our passion for living alive. Never stop dreaming!" On 8/22/2011 2:55 PM, Simon Martin wrote: > I wonder if someone could explain or help? > > A relative, Sophie Bygraves, was born 20th January 1852 to William& > Sarah Bygraves. When she marries John Willcox on April 1st 1872, the > marriage certificate has Sophias' father as John Bygraves. I'm > somewhat confussed. > Simon > A Londoner in Liverpool > >

On freebmd there is a James Riley marrried in Clerkenwell to possibly an Ann Riley in 1854. In 1847 an Ann Curline married James Riley in London West in 1847. Hope this helps. Eileen. ----- Original Message ----- From: <london-request@rootsweb.com> To: <london@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:00 AM Subject: LONDON Digest, Vol 6, Issue 298 > > > There is a webpage for the the London List at : www.londonlist.org.uk/ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname interest list > on the web at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RILEY - Holborn (Jennifer and Grant Hudson) > 2. Re: RILEY - Holborn (Ron Lankshear) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:23:46 +1200 > From: Jennifer and Grant Hudson <jhudson@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: [LON] RILEY - Holborn > To: london@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20110822162346.012580f0@pop3.xtra.co.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > RILEY - Holborn > > Eliza RILEY born March quarter 1854 Holborn 1b 439 > > If I apply for the birth certificate for Eliza I understand I will get the > maiden name of her mother or is there someone with access to birth > registers? > What I understand is: > Mother: Ann Sophia RILEY (nee DURANT and formerly CURLINE) > Father: James RILEY, Glass Silverer. > Possibly living at 42 Grays Inn Lane (1851 Census) > > Also her sister > Margaret RILEY born Dec quarter 1857 Holborn 1b 452 > > Many thanks > Jennifer HUDSON > Dunedin, New Zealand > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:06:47 +1000 > From: Ron Lankshear <ronlank@yahoo.com.au> > Subject: Re: [LON] RILEY - Holborn > To: Jennifer and Grant Hudson <jhudson@xtra.co.nz> > Cc: london@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4E51F1F7.5090708@yahoo.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Well Jennifer > Ancestry parish register does have Eliza > they live at 4 Providence Place > Born 8 June 1854 > Margaret not shown > > Parish registers for baptisms do not usually show > mother's previous names. > You would have to purchase the GRO certificate > > Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds > Bush/Chiswick) > try my links > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ > > On 2011-08-22 2:23 PM, Jennifer and Grant Hudson > wrote: >> Eliza RILEY born March quarter 1854 Holborn 1b 439 >> >> If I apply for the birth certificate for Eliza I understand I will get >> the >> maiden name of her mother or is there someone with access to birth >> registers? >> What I understand is: >> Mother: Ann Sophia RILEY (nee DURANT and formerly CURLINE) >> Father: James RILEY, Glass Silverer. >> Possibly living at 42 Grays Inn Lane (1851 Census) >> >> Also her sister >> Margaret RILEY born Dec quarter 1857 Holborn 1b 452 > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LONDON list administrator, send an email to > LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LONDON mailing list, send an email to > LONDON@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LONDON-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LONDON Digest, Vol 6, Issue 298 > **************************************

Hi here is a list of names from gravestones that I photographed in Croydon Cemetery Mitcham Road side Plot B area Some of these I have already posted and I hope you don't mind me reposting them again but my email crashed in England when I was there and I don't know what was sent or not. If there are any names you are interested in please let me know and I can send photo's. This part of the cemetery is very derelict as the Council is hell bent on destroying the graves including C. W. G. C. plots as they are overgrown too on this site. Therefore some of the Photos may be hard to read but I took loads and looking at every one of a grave I can get all the information to post here. Colin ANTRIM Frank 9th January 1933 age 55 ARMSTRONG Florence 27th January 1917 age 54 ASHDOWN Alfred William 16th March 1913 age 44 Husband of Emma Ashdown ASHDOWN Arthur Ernest 4th March 1945 age 46 ASHDOWN Elizabeth 24th March 1899 age 62 ASHDOWN Emma 7th April 1929 age 66 ASHDOWN Stephen 18th May 1917 age 72 AWCOCK Mary 13th February 1902 age 67 AWCOCK William 4th August 1904 age 65 AWCOCK Willie 16th February 1902 age 3 Grandson of William & Mary Awcock BAKER Benjamin ?? Aug ???? Stone deteriorated possible Jun qtr 1899 BAKER Edward Robert Teddy 20th August 1913 age 2 1/2yrs BAKER Edward Thomas 5th August 1933 age 58 BAKER Mary Stone deteriorated BAKER Rosina Stone deteriorated BANBURY Blanche Elizabeth 31st December 1926 age 57 BANBURY Charlotte Lucy Wells 13th August 1931 age 57 Wife of G. P. Banbury BANBURY George Parsons 29th December 1931 age 59 BANKS Annie Charlotte 29th April 1939 age 70 BANKS Edward John 21st September 1922 age 57 BANKS George Norton 3rd August 1902 age 5 BARNARD Anne 2nd April 1954 age 1 Day BARNARD Bertha Lilian 4th September 1970 age 84 Daughter of Walter & Jenny Barnard BARNARD Edith Emily 16th December 1963 age 75 BARNARD Florence Emily 23rd February 1905 age 15 BARNARD Jenny 20th January 1947 age 85 BARNARD Percy Joseph 27th April 1966 age 76 BARNARD Walter Henry 10th January 1955 age 71 BARNARD Walter 24th August 1948 age 87 BARNES Elizabeth Nichols 25th December 1929 age 73 BARNES William 25th September 1946 age 99 BATCHELOR Louisa 10th December 1918 age 73 BATCHELOR Louisa 4th December 192? BAWDEN James Kempthorne 23rd March 1922 aged 66 BAYLISS Arthur Wentworth 16th November 1916 age 23 Nth London Rifle Brigade. Died of wounds. No C.W.G.C stone BAYLISS Edward Swayn 10th November 1933 age 69 M. P. BAYLISS Sophia Alice 8th February 1932 age 68 BEADELL Edith L. 11th August 1952 age 86 BEER Ethel Victoria 8th January 1920 age 32 BEER W. C. (Jack) Pte 12th Nov 1910 aged 40 killed at Salonica No C. W. G. C. stone BEER Martha Ann 24th February 1920 aged 75 BELL Gladys 12th June 1912 age 25 Another name on the grave is Frederick but could be the husband of unknown person died 1st July 1914 BELL John Joseph 25th February 1905 age 49 Another name on the grave is Frederick but could be the husband of unkown person died 1st July 1914 BELL James Duncan 1st May 1959 age 63 Alderman of the Borough of Croydon BELL Ivy Adelaide born 9th July 1913 - 18th July 2002 BIGGS William died 27th February 1924 BIGGS Emma died 27th Dec 1924 BIRD Caroline Martha Eclin 19th July 1913 age 47 BIRD Frederick Edward Jackson 20th May 1941 age 84 Minister at Thornton Heath Congregational Church 1891 - 1936 BIRD Margaret Sandison 29th March 1920 age 20 BIRD Emily Martha 19th July 1921 age 47 BIRD S. M. 17th January 1939 age 80 BISLEY Frederick George born 1900 died ?? ??? 1978 age 78 Husband of Daisy & Father of Sheila BISLEY Jenny Wife of Charles BOWDEN Bertha Stella 7th December 1917 BRIDGE Harry 1st Nov 1923 age 62 BRIDGE Sarah Ann 25th September 1946 age 85 BRIDGER Elsie Maud 16th April 1942 BROOKE Susanna Neall 6th February 1919 age 80 check BROOKE Walter ?? ??? 1934 age 71 BUCKINGHAM Ellen 25th February 1943 age 73 aka Peggy BUCKINGHAM Nathan 24th October 1932 BUNYARD Alice Maude born 29th April 1872 died 13th March 1965 BUNYARD Percy F born 14th August 1870 died 28th July 1937 BURNETT Mary Ann 13th September 1931 age 75 BURNETT Richard 19th March 1934 age 78 BURTON Elizabeth Jane 10th April 1930 84 BURTON Hannah 16th December 1914 age 102 BURTON James ?? November 1870 Interred at Nunhead Cemetery

Togher, Co Louth, Ireland  baptism 15-09-1887 Harmon,Richard,Johnstown Parents Harmon,James & Mackey,Mary Jane- sponsors- John, Harmon & Fanny, Hullen  married  08-12-1926 St Patrick's, Soho, London

Hello All,    I am new to the list and I'd like to make a couple of points.   Over the next few weeks I'd like to post a few records.......these will be post 1907 marriages in London that appear in Irish baptismal registers. (this appears because of applications for letters of freedom to marry, I have scores of them)   I also have ancestry from Wales and Somerset and  a few of them moved to London.   Also I am most interested in obtaining a record from the Merchany Navy records from Kew post 1941 and if anyone can help me out I will offer to help with anyone who has an Irish interest.   I'll post a good few records over the next few days .......I'll put the surnames from Ireland who married in London in the subject line.   Best regards.   Slán, Kevin.

Hi Joan Sadly the marriage does not show George's occupation just deceased. This is what I first found after the marriage....... 1891 census has George Reeves 59 Boiler Maker Rebecca Reeves 57 Francis Reeves 12 Office Boy Post born Poplar Richard Wm Reeves 10 George Reeves 6 RG12; Piece: 326; Folio 33; Page 5 and they are also in 1881 RG11; Piece: 501; Folio: 152; Page: 36 So if Frank was born Francis then 1878/1879 Francis seems to be the one that fits with Frank although older than he shows in census etc. But I think Francis is not your Frank see what I find later And I presume this is Frank and Rose 1901 James Russel 49 Eliz B Russel 38 John P Russel 19 Ellen Russel 14 James Russel 9 Frank Reeves 19 St George in The East Rose Reeves 19 St George in The East, Charles Reeves 4 Months RG13; Piece: 309; Folio: 99; Page: 42 1911 I have only looked at Index but I think these are their children St George in the East REEVES FRANK 1882 29 REEVES ROSE ALICE F 1882 29 REEVES FRANK 1907 4 REEVES GEORGE THOMAS 1904 7 REEVES ROSE ALICE 1909 2 I assume some obstacle to their marriage until 1914. I could not find a previous for him. perhaps her father objected and they only married when he died......... or could they have married before and something went wrong with registration so never got into GRO..... There is this baptism and George is a Engineer which could equate with boilermaker but mother is not Rebecca and it makes Frank older than the 1891 Francis....... Frank Reeves 2 Jul 1876 George Reeves, Susan Alice Reeves Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Tower Hamlets Born 15 June 1876 But 1881 has George Reeves abt 1850 Widower N K, Surrey, England Head Engineer Mining Charles Reeves abt 1875 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Frank Reeves abt 1877 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son RG11; Piece: 465; Folio: 36; Page: 10 This does seem to be the 1876 baptism Frank and using Frank at marriage seems to fit well and also a brother Charles and also name for Frank and Rose's son But then this Frank is some 5 years older than he was saying at marriage etc....... Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-08-19 11:27 AM, joan reeves wrote: > I'm trying to trace the birth of Frank Reeves. Birth year about 1882. He married 1914 to Rose Alice Stephens. On the certificate the name of his father is George Reeves. They married in St george East Middlesex London. I'm just hitting a brick wall. Can anyone help please. Many thanks to all. Joan.

Hello. I'm trying to trace the birth of Frank Reeves. Birth year about 1882. He married 1914 to Rose Alice Stephens. On the certificate the name of his father is George Reeves. They married in St george East Middlesex London. I'm just hitting a brick wall. Can anyone help please. Many thanks to all. Joan.

Many Thanks to Katherine and Margaret and Hildi Yes it does look like that flowery hand is NK Could be Charles is from Leyton etc I am checking on what I can find Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

Hi Ron, I'd be pretty comfortable with reading all three as NK (just NK for William and Charles, and Do. NK for Emma) - aside from being by far the most likely short abbreviation to be used here, the N is the same as in Novrad and other Ns on the page, and in interpreting a K, it can help to look at an H - a K is often a slightly loopier version of the writer's H. Looks like that to me here, and it's only because he hasn't done a great job of connecting the "|" with the "<" of the K that it looks like LL or SL. Cheers, Katherine On 18/08/2011 10:44 AM, Ron Lankshear wrote: > 1851 census has some to me confusing squiggles for > place born. > Could I please ask for opinions on these squiggles > > There are William Charles John and Emma SKEGGS on > this page > > HO107; Piece: 1712; Folio: 163; Page: 18 > its a workhouse in Hatfield > > They have Do or Ditto for county and then > something like LL or SL after > > Come down to Emma Skeggs who has Do for Middx > after Charlotte and Sarah NOVRAD from Shoreditch > and Hoxton > > But then Emma has what looks like a N followed by > the LL or SL similar to William and Charles up above. > The N is similar to the Northaw for John Skeggs. > > So I am wondering if the squiggles are really NK > and sometimes just a K

1851 census has some to me confusing squiggles for place born. Could I please ask for opinions on these squiggles There are William Charles John and Emma SKEGGS on this page HO107; Piece: 1712; Folio: 163; Page: 18 its a workhouse in Hatfield They have Do or Ditto for county and then something like LL or SL after Come down to Emma Skeggs who has Do for Middx after Charlotte and Sarah NOVRAD from Shoreditch and Hoxton But then Emma has what looks like a N followed by the LL or SL similar to William and Charles up above. The N is similar to the Northaw for John Skeggs. So I am wondering if the squiggles are really NK and sometimes just a K HELP PS Elizabeth Sarah Skeggs was my grandmother and checking back needs almost a one name study -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

I wonder if it is LS after Charles and William and could that be short for Layston, Herts. Emma's could be a NK for not known. Marg >From the Beautiful British Columbia Cariboo Region, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lankshear" <ronlank@yahoo.com.au> 1851 census has some to me confusing squiggles for place born. Could I please ask for opinions on these squiggles There are William Charles John and Emma SKEGGS on this page HO107; Piece: 1712; Folio: 163; Page: 18 its a workhouse in Hatfield They have Do or Ditto for county and then something like LL or SL after Come down to Emma Skeggs who has Do for Middx after Charlotte and Sarah NOVRAD from Shoreditch and Hoxton But then Emma has what looks like a N followed by the LL or SL similar to William and Charles up above. The N is similar to the Northaw for John Skeggs. So I am wondering if the squiggles are really NK and sometimes just a K HELP PS Elizabeth Sarah Skeggs was my grandmother and checking back needs almost a one name study -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick)

I'd be very grateful for some suggestions as to how to find where people are buried. The people I am interested in died in a particular hospital or in their homes.Are there any general rules - or is this a impossible search.RegardsJan

Trying to find out more about my great grandparents.They had 8 children:- Charles William Warren b 1876 Somers Town, d 11 Jan 1951 Chase Farm Hospital - last address East Crescent, Enfieldmarried (1) Jane Tookey (1879-1925) and Ruth Hilda Jenkins (1885-1967) - these were my grandparents- Thomas Warren b 1879 last known to be living in Warning Lid, Haywards Heath 1911 working as Electrician - wife Jessie Tookey b 1876 Enfield- Edward Walter Warren ( 1882-1965?) married Agnes Copelin (1887-1972) in Tottenham in 1906 , I think they had 4 children- Alice Eliza Warren (b 1884 Islington, d ??) married Nonus Frederick Piper in 1913 ( he was a Policeman and in 1911 she was a cook at a Police Station, living at 19 Pretoria Road - he was living at 1 Brideswell Place when they married. He died in 1957 in Hastings, Sussex- Maud Warren (she may have had another name) (b 1891 Marylebone, d 1984 Enfield) may have married Harry Harman after 1911. Living at 154 Dysons Road in 1911.- Annie E (perhaps Ethel) Warren (b 1891 Chalk Farm, d perhaps 1947) m 25 Dec 1915 Enfield Edward Henry Woodley b 1892 Lambeth. May have had a son Edward Eric Woodley who may have married Kathleen Wallace- Daisey/Daisy Warren chr 25 May 1893 All Saints St John's Wood (father was a Carman) in 1911 she was Living in Dyson Road, and was a Waitress. The story my mother told was that she was later a nurse and at one stage Matron at a hospital in Essex, place starting with C- William Ernest Warren b Feb 1897 Edmonton, don't know anything else about him. Any ideas, suggestions greatly appreciated.RegardsJanPottsville NSW Australia

Hi Jan If, as I assume, you mean that you want to take your research further back, your first port of call should be Frederick and Alice's marriage. This was at St Mark, Myddleton Square on 5 April 1874. Ancestry have mangled their transcription of the parish register so the entry appears to relate to a Frederick Charles "Williams" and an "Alee" STEVENS. If you don't have access via the appropriate subscription, let me know and I will send you the image. Frederick names his father as Thomas WARREN, a railway servant. But I cannot see any likely family group in 1861, nor can I pick out Frederick in 1871 with any confidence. The birth of a Frederick Charles WARREN was registered in Q3 1851 in Bedford and this looks like a strong possibility and worth the 9.25GBP. This registration ties in quite neatly with the baptism of a Frederick Charles WARREN at St Mary's Bedford on 4 February 1855 (courtesy of FamilySearch), which gives a date of birth of 15 June 1851. However, the LDS transcription provides only the name of Sarah WARREN as mother (i.e. no father shown). This could be an error, or the father's name might have been illegible, but it could also point to an illegitimate birth (and a pretend "Thomas" at the marriage). Bedfordshire Archives may well be prepared to check for you free of charge, as you have the exact date and place. Alice was born on 18 January 1854 and baptised on 26 February of that year at St George the Martyr, Queen Square, daughter of Edward (which matches the information in the marriage register) and Louisa. Ancestry have, once again, let you down with their transcription of this event - it can be found under Alice "Stepens", though her siblings (of whom there are a fair few) are correctly transcribed for their baptisms. Hope this helps Caroline > > Trying to find out more about my great grandparents. >

Hello from NZ Sarah Ann CURLINE married George WILD in 1853. I think they must have come to NZ in 1866 approx. as I have found death and burial information for a George (1910) and Sarah WILD (1917) in the Northern Cemetery, Dunedin. It says Sarah had been in NZ for 40 years and her age matches with a DOB in 1829/8. Sarah Ann 's 1/2 sister Mary Ann RILEY arrived in NZ in 1866 with someone who called herself Ann CURLINE and I had always thought Sarah Ann was the 1/2 sister. There are no children mentioned in the newspaper death notices but in those days this was normal. I have ordered the death cert for Sarah WILD/E d 1917 Dunedin, NZ. Hopefully this will have the reuired information. I have looked on Ancestry as Sarah and George WILD would possibly have been in the UK for the 1861 Census. I would really appreciate an opinion from others about this family: Sarah WILD DOB abt 1828 London England George WILD DOB abt 1826 Middlesex England Chn Emma 10y Sarah 7y George 5y William 4y St George Southwark Kent Rd It appears to match but if it does what happened to these children as I can't find them in NZ. All opinions appreciated. Thanks Jennifer Hudson. Dunedin NZ