Hi Ron, As someone who has never been to England I've got no idea as to why he was shown as born West Ham and Lincolnshire, except one opinion was that perhaps the child was registered somewhere other than where he was born...... I have not bought any certificates for this family, as it is not mine, I'm doing it all for a friend who is related to a later Pascall family member and I have access to the various sites without naming names. I'm wondering why the family is not a unit in 1890 census just at the time Alfred is born. Even if Edward was sailing off somewhere, one would have thought Eugene should have been around........ Anyway, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions......For some strange reason their Marriage which was registered Poplars, London 1887 is not in the London Marriage Indexes, as that may have given me more information.....for my current subscription. Cheers, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Ron Lankshear [mailto:ronlank@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:40 PM To: Robyn Clarke Cc: LONDON@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LON] 1901 Census Entry PASCALL It reads like Carmaphack, West Mane presumably West Maine hence a statistician has written USA. But could it all be wrong in that the enumerator could not read the writing or get clarification and its something or other in West Ham??? I agree no sign of in 1891 or Edward in any other census including USA....... Also why is Alfred shown as born Lincolnshire and yet registered in West Ham..... Have you seen the boys birth certificates do they add anything and the marriage any witnesses that might be related to Edward? Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-11-06 4:17 PM, Robyn Clarke wrote: > He was found in 1901 with wife, EUGENIE PASCALL nee RENOUF born > Jersey, at > 70 Lawrence Ave., East Ham, Living on own means and stating born > Car..................USA.

It reads like Carmaphack, West Mane presumably West Maine hence a statistician has written USA. But could it all be wrong in that the enumerator could not read the writing or get clarification and its something or other in West Ham??? I agree no sign of in 1891 or Edward in any other census including USA....... Also why is Alfred shown as born Lincolnshire and yet registered in West Ham..... Have you seen the boys birth certificates do they add anything and the marriage any witnesses that might be related to Edward? Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2011-11-06 4:17 PM, Robyn Clarke wrote: > He was found in 1901 with wife, EUGENIE PASCALL nee RENOUF born Jersey, at > 70 Lawrence Ave., East Ham, Living on own means and stating born > Car..................USA.

Hi Heather, In 1901 Charles has taken a couple of years of his age (or the age is unreadable). He is on Piece: 379 Folio: 77 Page Number: 19 But Percy isn't there and Elizabeth is called Lillie. Christine -----Original Message----- From: heather guit Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:00 PM To: london@rootsweb.com Subject: [LON] Percy Freeman In 1918 my grandfather sister Olive Carter married Percy Freeman. Percy stated on Marriage, he was born London England and his father was Charles Freeman and a tailor. I have found 1881 Census Civil Parish southwark St. George Martyr London 12a Union Street Charles Freeman age 25 Tailor Eliza Freeman age 23 Tailoress Charles Freeman son age 3 Elizabeth Feeman daughter age 1 Can't find this family 1891 which should have son Percy born 1884-5) on it. Or family in 1901 etc. I can't find Percy's birth reg either. Percy immigrated to Canada sometime before 1915 when he joined Canadian Expeditionary Force in Vernon British Columbia. He was then stationed in Seaforth England. He stated no next of kin on joining army. Can anyone help me find this family.

Hi ?? Unfortunately there is a page missing on Ancestry, it jumps from p25 to p27 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am trying to find the following in the 1891 Census via Ancestry.co.uk but cannot locate them >although I know they are in Shoreditch. > > I don’t have a sub to FindMyPast but through the usual search facility I have found the following > > > Susan BUCKLE age 56 > Harry BUCKLE age 7 > Found in Shoreditch > > However, when I try the same search in Ancestry (with whom I do have a sub) they will not appear. > > Can anyone suggest where I am going wrong please? > > Many thanks > > WS

Hi WS You're not going wrong. The page is missing from Ancestry. I'll send the details off list, unless someone else has already done so. RG12/244 folio 142 page 26 HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: london-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:london-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W S I am trying to find the following in the 1891 Census via Ancestry.co.uk but cannot locate them although I know they are in Shoreditch. I don't have a sub to FindMyPast but through the usual search facility I have found the following Susan BUCKLE age 56 Harry BUCKLE age 7 Found in Shoreditch However, when I try the same search in Ancestry (with whom I do have a sub) they will not appear. Can anyone suggest where I am going wrong please? Many thanks WS

I am trying to find the following in the 1891 Census via Ancestry.co.uk but cannot locate them although I know they are in Shoreditch. I don’t have a sub to FindMyPast but through the usual search facility I have found the following Susan BUCKLE age 56 Harry BUCKLE age 7 Found in Shoreditch However, when I try the same search in Ancestry (with whom I do have a sub) they will not appear. Can anyone suggest where I am going wrong please? Many thanks WS

Thank you very much Ellen and Ron for the your most useful information on Home Boys. Best wishes Frank

On 2011/11/06 17:50, Peter Rimell wrote: > Could SKS help me with birth or baptism information for the following > RIMELLs that were born in Islington > > George b.1875, Ernest 1877, Sidney b.1879, Harry b.1880 Also 27 May 1883 Holy Trinity, Haverstock Hill, Camden Alfred RIMMELL, & Francis RIMMELL 26 Jul 1877 All Saints, Camden Town Charles RIMMELL -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

On 2011/11/06 17:50, Peter Rimell wrote: > Could SKS help me with birth or baptism information for the following > RIMELLs that were born in Islington > > George b.1875, Ernest 1877, Sidney b.1879, Harry b.1880 Baptised on the same date - Ada Ann RIMMELL -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

On 2011/11/06 17:50, Peter Rimell wrote: > Could SKS help me with birth or baptism information for the following > RIMELLs that were born in Islington > > George b.1875, Ernest 1877, Sidney b.1879, Harry b.1880 Ernest John RIMMELL: Bap. 10 Aug 1880, St John Upper Holloway, Islington Father: William RIMMELL - bricklayer Mother: Henrietta RIMMELL Address: 17, Hampden Road. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

On 2011/11/06 15:15, Robyn Clarke wrote: > Anyway, thank you for your thoughts and suggestions......For some strange > reason their Marriage which was registered Poplars, London 1887 is not in > the London Marriage Indexes, as that may have given me more > information.....for my current subscription. That's Poplar on The Isle of Dogs :-) and the marriage might have been a civil marriage, in which case you won't find it in any Parish Register, which is what the London Marriages Indexes on Ancestry are based on. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hello Listers,I am searching for a young (then) relative believed to have been transported to Australia about 1918. I hope I'm not belabouring the subject of HOME BOYS, but I'm aware the List is very knowledgeable on this subject. Therefore, may I ask - Would a HOME Child have to be a minimum age before the HOME would send he/she abroad ? Were HOME children ALWAYS sent abroad ? Did the various Homes favour a particular country for their children ? Many thanks. Frank, Manitoba.

... or non-conformist, or Quaker, or Roman Catholic, or Jewish etc Caroline > the marriage might have been a civil > marriage, > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg

Hello All, I am trying to identify where EDWARD SAMUEL PASCALL was born. He was found in 1901 with wife, EUGENIE PASCALL nee RENOUF born Jersey, at 70 Lawrence Ave., East Ham, Living on own means and stating born Car..................USA. There is no such place according to Google maps and I can't determine exactly what is written..... As he is not found before or afterwards, and he is stated as deceased by 1911, I was hoping to get some idea of where he was born. I have their Marriage in Poplar Middlesex 1887, but no idea from that....... AND just to add to my brick wall, although they had two children 1888 Lionel Edward Ernest Peter Pascall in Poplar and 1890 Alfred H A Pascall West Ham I cannot find the family in 1891 Census. Any help very much appreciated.....I'm stumped, perhaps a fresh set of eyes may be able to help. Cheers, Robyn Australia

In 1918 my grandfather sister Olive Carter married Percy Freeman. Percy stated on Marriage, he was born London England and his father was Charles Freeman and a tailor. I have found 1881 Census Civil Parish southwark St. George Martyr London 12a Union Street Charles Freeman age 25 Tailor Eliza Freeman age 23 Tailoress Charles Freeman son age 3 Elizabeth Feeman daughter age 1 Can't find this family 1891 which should have son Percy born 1884-5) on it. Or family in 1901 etc. I can't find Percy's birth reg either. Percy immigrated to Canada sometime before 1915 when he joined Canadian Expeditionary Force in Vernon British Columbia. He was then stationed in Seaforth England. He stated no next of kin on joining army. Can anyone help me find this family.

Could SKS help me with birth or baptism information for the following RIMELLs that were born in Islington George b.1875, Ernest 1877, Sidney b.1879, Harry b.1880 I have them in the 1881 Census but their father is not with them. I know that I could simply order a copy of their birth certificate but was hoping to avoid the expense. Best Regards Peter Rimell

G`day all, wonder if anyone out there can help me find the baptism of my husbands g-grandmother Mary WALSH? Her name is spelt WALSH on all documents , but on several different censuses she gives her birthplace in Surrey as either Kingston on Thames, Long Sutton, Long Ditton, or Surbiton. Her age also varies, but was born somewhere 1844- 49. On her marriage certificate to Barnett JOHNSON in 1867 in St Barnabus, Pimlico her father is named as William WALSH, cabinet maker. I have checked the 1851-61 censuses but can`t seem to find a Mary WALSH who quite fits the bill. Any info; gratefully received. Later, Mary went to live in her husbands birthplace of Coton in Cambridgeshire for the rest of her life. Cheers from Ruth in Seaford, Sth; Aust. -- researching:- FRAMINGHAM, anywhere. GREENGRASS, Norfolk. SINCLAIR, Sunderland, Co; Durham & Banff, Scotland. PRIOR, Sunderland, Co; Durham & Co; Cavan, Ireland. McGINNITY, Sunderland, Co; Durham, & North; Ireland.

Stowage is the name of a street in Deptford, but its just Stowage, no street, road, lane, etc. St Nicholas with St Lukes is on Stowage. The Thames path goes along it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Human <jillhuman@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sunday, November 6, 2011 6:45 am Subject: [LON] James Randfield 1793 > I am hoping somebody can help me with an interpretation of > handwriting!James Randfield is recorded as being baptised on > 17.03.1793 at St Nicholas, Deptford. > > I believe his parents were James Randfield and Saince Burroughs who > were married on 20.12.1790 at Christchurch, Spitalfields. > > However on the original document of James junior's baptism the > parents have been transcribed as 'Sborch' followed by ( what looks > like) Labourer in the 'stowage'.  Can someone with more experience > than me fathom this one out?  > > > The plot thickens! Saince Randfield married a John Marsh on > 24.09.1792 at St Edmund King and Martyr, City of London (witnessed > by her brother Robert Burroughs) and went on to have several more > children ( one of which is called Burroughs Marsh).  > > > On the original entry of that marriage she appears to be recorded > as a spinster.  Also I can find no death for the first husband or > further mention of the son James. > > All help would be very gratefully received! > > Jill, Cumbria > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This mailing list works in parallel with the London surname > interest list on the web at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/london.html . Check for > matching interests and add your own ! > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: LONDON-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LONDON- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I am aware of the following people called WINDLEY in the London area but have been unable to link them with my family tree, even though some of them lived in or near the same part of London as my ancestors 1. 1786 a James W marries Alice ACTON in Marylebone. 2. In 1841 a James W was living with his wife Ann and son James in Southwark 3. In 1861 a James W (probably the son in 2. above) was living with his wife Fanny in Newington. 4. In 1851 an Elizabeth W was living in Lambeth with a Caroline HUNTINGTON (I think) WINDLEY was quite an unusual name in this part of the world, so there would seem to be a good chance that they were related. Thankyou for any help or other information about WINDLEY. Paul Windley

I am hoping somebody can help me with an interpretation of handwriting! James Randfield is recorded as being baptised on 17.03.1793 at St Nicholas, Deptford. I believe his parents were James Randfield and Saince Burroughs who were married on 20.12.1790 at Christchurch, Spitalfields. However on the original document of James junior's baptism the parents have been transcribed as 'Sborch' followed by ( what looks like) Labourer in the 'stowage'.  Can someone with more experience than me fathom this one out?  The plot thickens! Saince Randfield married a John Marsh on 24.09.1792 at St Edmund King and Martyr, City of London (witnessed by her brother Robert Burroughs) and went on to have several more children ( one of which is called Burroughs Marsh).  On the original entry of that marriage she appears to be recorded as a spinster.  Also I can find no death for the first husband or further mention of the son James. All help would be very gratefully received! Jill, Cumbria