Hi Cal, I have an obit for a Granville Fisher Littleton that says he was born in 1850 in N Vernon, IN to Joel Littleton and Martha Ann Brant. Joel and Martha were married 6 May 1846 in Warren Co, OH so why was he born in IN? Joel and Martha are both buried in the Clifton Cem (on Clark-Greene Co, OH boarder) near Springfield. I'm trying to find where Joel was born 6 Nov 1823, but not having any luck. I was just curious why Granville was born in IN. Martha's death notice says she was born in Springfield but then again it says she was 5 years old when she died (NOT). I have quite a trail on the Clermont Littletons but can't seem to find your Hugh or Elizabeth Packard. Would you be so kind as to send me a ftw or gedcom file on that line? I'd sure appreciate it. Terry Littleton (listdad)