You are correct, Cal, they are the same. Pherel Fielding Littleton, b. 15 June 1797, in Fleming Co., Ky. is the Pherel Littleton 1820 Clermont Co., OH census; Fielding Lyttleton 1830 Clermont Co., OH census; F. Littleton 1840 IL Fulton Co. census and Fieldon Littleton 1850 IL Fulton Co. census. spouse Anna France b. 6 October 1802, in Botetourt Co. Va., m. 5 August 1819, Clermont Co., OH. They had 16 children. And a big thanks to Rick Phillips for the information on Ferrill, Ferrell and Pherel Littleton. At least he was real what ever the name. Jim Clanin ----- Original Message ----- From: <brostrom@us.ibm.com> To: <LITTLETON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 10:56 PM Subject: Pherryl Littleton > > > > In the 1820 Census for Clermont County, Ohio (Ohio Twp) I have a record > of a Pherel Littleton that is the head of a household. The information in that > microfilm shows 1 male under 10, 1 male 16-26, 1 female 16-26, and 1person > engaged in agriculture. This may be the same information that Rick is > refering to below. I also show a Fielding Lyttleton in the same township > in the 1830 Census. In this case it shows 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, > 1 male 30-40, 2 females under 5, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 20-30. Since > I don't find Pherel Littleton in the 1830 census one could speculate that > they are the same person. > > Cal Brostrom > > > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Cal Brostrom/Raleigh/IBM on 09/01/99 11:48 > PM --------------------------- > > Rick Phillips <Edwin-P@worldnet.att.net> on 09/01/99 01:05:50 AM > > Please respond to Edwin-P@worldnet.att.net > > To: LITTLETON-L@rootsweb.com > cc: > Subject: Pherryl Littleton > > > > > > Here is the information that I have seen on Pherryl/Farrell/Pherel > Littleton > > In a Fairfax Co. VA Will Book (abstracts) at the Seattle Public Library, > I found references to him on pg 48, 51, 57, 62, and 103. On these > pages, he is a witness in wills dated 1750, 1751, 1752, 1753, and > 1761(or 1765). His name is spelled Ferrill or Ferrell Littleton. > These wills are not connected to other Littletons as far as I can tell. > > The second reference to this name that I have found is the 1820 census > of Clermont Co OH, in which John and Martha's son is written Pherel > Littleton - this is their son Pherel Fielding Littleton. > > A third reference, from "BUCANAN COUNTY HISTORY, VOLUME 1, 1984" > (Missouri) > > AUGUSTUS LITTLETON > "This branch of the Littleton family probably came to the United States > when the immigrant, John, Sr. sold the family jewels in England to pay > for passage for himself and several children to Virginia. He was a > widower at the time. His son, Pherel, Loudon County, Virginia was killed > by a falling tree around 1775. John, son of Pherel, married Leanner > Goddard around 1785-86. Leanner was one of a large family who lived on > Fox Creek in Fleming County, Kentucky. They became progenitors of many > Buchanan County early families" > > > > These three references certainly suggest a connection for John to > Farrell > (Sr), as John's son was given this name. Also the fact that Farrel > Littleton was in Fairfax Co in the 1750s, makes him a prime candidate > for John's father, but I have seen no proof as yet. One possiblity is > that John's father's name was a combination like John Pherel, or Pherel > John, etc. and that he used different names during different parts of > his life. > > In any event, there was a man in VA who used the name > Farrell/Pherel/etc. during the 1750s. > > Rick Phillips > > > > > >Littleton, Terry wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > Well this is really stretching it a bit, BUT, what do you who are descended > from the > John Littleton - Martha Goddard line think of this scenario? > > > > Brian, a fellow Littleton researcher and I have been working on finding out > just who > this Pherryl Littleton, father of John Littleton who married Martha > Goddard actually was > so we can connect him back to our VA tree. Everyone says the same > thing, John was the son > of Pherryl who was the son of John, BUT Brian and I can find NO written > record of a > Pherryl Littleton in any VA records. People say - OH yeah, there is a > record of Pherryl > in ....... Co records, but if so, we have yet to find them an > > > > Brian proposed the following scenario: > > > > Hiatt's "Implied Marriages of Fairfax Co." (next to Loudoun Co) has a John > Littleton m. > to a Frances Harle. (I presume this would be before 1760) > > > > John, who married Martha Goddard, was born 1760 > > > > I have a note that says that John's father (the mysterious 'Pherryl'?) was > killed by a > falling tree in Loudoun Co, VA in 1775 > > > > In 1787 a presumably-widowed Frances Littleton lived in a cluster > > in Loudoun Co. with William3 Littleton and his sons Charles, Thomas and > Solomon. > Earlier, (wonder what date - pre 1775?) a John and Thomas Littleton > entered Loudoun Co. > public service claims for supplies they provided to the Marquis de > Lafayette. > > > > What we propose is that William3 Littleton also had a son John who was married > to > Frances Harle, that this John died early, such that the Tavener > genealogy research did not > pick him up and why he wasn't in his fathers will. This John Littleton > and Francis Harle > had a son, John who married Martha Goddard and moved to Fleming Co. KY. > > > > Is it possible that 'Pherryl' is a confabulation of 'F.Harle' which would have > been > John's mothers maiden name and over the years, F Harle got converted > into > > P-herryl and people started saying this was John's father because it would > sound more > like a fathers name than a mothers? > > > > OK, I've got my flame retardant suit on, fire away. > > > > Terry Littleton (listdad) > > > > ==== LITTLETON Mailing List ==== > > LITTLETON-L@rootsweb.com > > > ==== LITTLETON Mailing List ==== > LITTLETON-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > ==== LITTLETON Mailing List ==== > LITTLETON-L@rootsweb.com > >