Darrell- It saves listmaster a lot of work for you to initiate the removal and report to the HelpDesl what you have done and why. My advice is to put the address on moderated status and wait to see what listmaster does as a result of your notice. Usually, he will check to see if there are OTHER instances (other lists) that this address has hit with the spam and, if so, listmaster will unsub the person globally and let all of the admins know of his action. This is probably the best way to proceed. Let listmaster what is best under each circumstance. The time I deviate from this protocol is if the person contacts me that they know they were hacked and have fixed the problem. If that happens they usually will cooperate and complete the spam removal themselves and they don't need to be unsubbed from other lists. Joan In a message dated 7/9/2012 1:33:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, darrellm@sprynet.com writes: Greetings: I just got a message which made it to the VERMONT list, as confirmed in the archives, that consists only of a presumably malicious link (no, I didn't check it out!) and the RW added footer. The From address -- gstove9999 at aol dot com -- is not (now?) subscribed to the list. I know how to request removal, and am going to proceed to do exactly that. However, as much from curiosity as anything, does anyone have an idea whether the subscriber was removed by RW? Does this mean the message might be removed by them even if I did not request removal? Darrell