AMEN! It's like anything else in life; whatever the endeavor, there are going to be negative elements to deal with and we just have to be grateful for the positive elements that make it all worthwhile. Jim "Pops" Jackson -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Megan Zurawicz Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:22 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] ADMIN NOTE: On 7/29/2012 23:55, W David Samuelsen wrote: > I checked and every list I admin is already set to "Discard" > > and I still get those annoying requests to -admin addresses > > David Well, yes. There is NO option - nor should there be - to "discard all mail to list admin." If that's what you want to do, then that's a pretty fair indication that you've burned out and it's time to put them all up for adoption. There is a certain amount of administrivia....and a certain amount of the administrivia is crap, admittedly....to being a list admin. There's a reason admin mail isn't spamfiltered: because every once in a while there's legitimate mail from a legitimate subscriber, or wants-to-subscribe-er, that gets trapped in spam filters. And RootsWeb doesn't want to lose that correspondence. Nor should you, if you're truly adminning the list. If it's just too much to deal with, the solution is simple: put your list up for adoption. There is nothing keeping you from being just as active as ever on the list, doing just as much genealogy as ever on the list, even leading discussions on the list, without being the admin. If you choose to keep the list, then the correct response is to "cowboy up" (or "cowgirl up"), admit that a small percentage of the work is distasteful but that you still want the job anyway, kwitcherbitchin and admin the list. It is what it is - which is what it ALWAYS has been. Bitching about it just sours other peoples' moods without solving any problems on your end. So in the words of the immortal Yoda.... Do or do not. But whatever your choice, don't whine about it on this list. :) --pig, admin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings: Another way of looking at this, which is surprisingly not understood by many list admins I fear, is that we are NOT being victimized by all this junk that comes through the -admin addresses; this is part of *US* helping prevent our *SUBSCRIBERS* from becoming victims! In other words, we are part of the solution. We are the doctors, or at least the paramedics. And you can't be a medical professional unless you are willing to be around a certain amount of sneezing, coughing, bleeding, and crying. So if you just can't handle the crud, then recognize that being a list admin may not be for you, in the long run. It has nothing to do with being a good person, it has nothing to do with being smart, it has nothing to do with how much you care about genealogy or other genealogists. The only question is, "Are you 'doctor' material?" Now, if you want hints on how to reduce the impact of the junk on yourself, *without* just ignoring everything, then this list is a great place to get ideas. Darrell