Ian, Your comments are totally inappropriate and downright rude. Joan is one of the most knowledgeable and capable members of this group. You owe her an apology. Jim -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Marr Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:03 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] ADMIN NOTE: Joan, The answer, to me, is obvious. Rather than not doing the job properly for all your lists, reduce the number of lists you admin so that you can do the job properly Regards, Ian MARR at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 11m above sea level This message can be considered to be in the public domain. The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~marr/ Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://home.vicnet.net.au/~marr/Weather/ Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer. ----- Original Message ----- From: JYoung6180@aol.com To: ian_marr@bigpond.net.au ; listowners@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [LO] ADMIN NOTE: Ian- It was getting so that it would take me at the minimum 2 to 3 HOURS every day just to delete all the spam in pending requests. The setting to DISCARD is NOT discarding "anything that suits me" -- it is discarding 100% SPAM. There was NEVER a legit message there asking for help. I still get the accidental subscriber post that lands in pending requests for a variety of reasons and the moderated list member posts...those I'm more than happy to handle -- but the non-subscriber spam being DISCARDED is the setting I and many other admins CHOOSE (as long as we are not moderating the gateways) AND if RootsWeb had any qualms with admins setting non-subscriber posts to DISCARD they wouldn't have created this option specifically so we CAN have the spam discarded. That is why this option was created! I can do my "job" as admin MUCH better if I have that extra 2-3 hours a day to help people and tend to actual list functions than if I were to devote that time to deleting spam from more than 100 list pending requests. Joan In a message dated 7/31/2012 7:35:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ian_marr@bigpond.net.au writes: Joan, I've sat back for a while while you laud the concept of just "discarding" anything that doesn't suit you, and can't help wondering why you are a list administrator at all. I admin many lists which vary from very slow to relatively busy. There are many aspects to being an admin, and I try to do each justice. Welcoming new members, being sure I respond quickly to queries, publishing a list etiquette fact sheet, monitoring the messages, processing incorrectly addressed messages, dealing with the "pending" list and anything else that may come along. I regard each of these as an integral part of the job. They say any job worth doing is worth doing well. I just can't see how this is achieved if any of us decide we won't do certain aspects because it doesn't suit us. Regards, Ian MARR ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Folks: Time to stop snarking. I am deleting from my folder the mail that has come thus far on the subject as I head out to work. When I get home tonight, I'm going to start moderating anyone who's made NEW posts of the "My way is the only way and you are flat out WRONG" sort. That includes anyone of the "but I was just answering what so-and-so started" variety. --pig, admin