Hello, I believe this is my first post to this list. I usually stay in the background. I am subscribed to MANY Rootsweb email list for surnames, localities, cemeteries, etc. I don't post that often to any of them. I am also the admin for a few surname lists. I agree with the few other posters who suggested just emailing the person with a welcome email and see what the response is. I would have also suggested getting a horse and counting it's teeth. I have a relative who has an email address (first part) of: gylwrnce. Would she have been suspect? She chose to leave all the vowels out of her name except the last one when she created her email address. That is my 2 cents worth. Gwen Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: listowners-request@rootsweb.com Sender: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:50:09 To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16 Today's Topics: 1. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Nivard Ovington) 2. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Charani) 3. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Charani) 4. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on ITS OBITS (Paul L LeBlanc) 5. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Davy Cannon) 6. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Joe Makowiec) 7. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Sue) 8. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Lee Cognetta) 9. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (David McMillan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:17:16 -0000 From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F072852451ED450BA624AF3196EB8276@claireac3e9bca> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original A quick look at the archives finds 14 very recent, seemingly valid posts "Jenn" appears to have a particular interest in Canada > Greetings: > > Pardon me for being obtuse, but why doesn't somebody just e-mail the > address and ask what is going on? In some ways this reminds me of the > story about the Aristotelian philosophers in the Athenian academy > arguing about how many teeth there are in the mouth of a horse. > (Supposedly Aristotle gave conflicting numbers in different writings.) > Some student said, "Why not get a horse and look?" > > They expelled him. > > Darrell ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:03:33 +0000 From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: "'Listowners List Posting'" <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4F421A75.9060905@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Lin wrote: > Jywze1 and 4dlrgen are the ones I have on mine. I've had the second one come to one of my lists. I've a way of dealing with suspicious email addresses. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks there's something amiss. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:34:32 +0000 From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: Kathie Harrison <harrison28@gmail.com> Cc: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4F4221B8.6070908@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kathie Harrison wrote: > I have been using gmail for a few years now and I have not spammed any > lists nor had this one hijacked. I am a reader and a poster so your comment > is incorrect. However, putting new subscribers on MOD is fine but don't do > it too long. Paranoia is an unbecoming admin trait. JMHO Paul's comment wasn't incorrect. It was an observation based on his experience and wasn't directed exclusively at you. I use Gmail as well but I didn't take it as a slight. Some ISPs and email providers are more prone to being used by spammers than others. Some ISPs and providers seem to be used for spamming more in some regions than others. I'm NOT seeing Gmail (yet and touch wood) being used on my lists for spamming purposes. If you had knowingly spammed lists, you would probably have been unsubbed. Some admins will immediately unsub anyone whose address is used for that purpose, others will put the address on mod and will unsub if there's a repeat. Most won't even attempt to contact the person whose address it is to advise them of what's happened. I will and do. Many have their lists set to discard anything not from a list member which means you may not even be aware of spam being sent in your name, nor may you be aware it's been hijacked. *As far as I'm aware* my address hasn't been used to spam any lists or been hijacked - but that is the best I can say with certainty and, TBH, that's the best you can say too. Like Paul, all list new list members are put on mod immediately until I see how they post. Those who just sit there reading or waiting for their questions to be answered without asking stay on mod. It's not paranoia at all. It's keeping the list happy, peaceful and enjoyable for all those who wish to do their research in an harmonious atmosphere - and that is what it's all about. I've noticed, on my lists at least, the addresses that get used for spamming are not the prolific posters where an abrupt change in posting style would be immediately noticed but the more infrequent posters whose style isn't quite so familiar. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:35:13 -0500 (EST) From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on ITS OBITS To: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CEBDEB9BFCDC28-1258-3CDF4@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It appears what she is doing is going through these newspapers obits and finding ones for your areas. Paul From: Jenn < gwnhwyfer@gmail.com> Subject: [CAN-ONT-OBITS] Ottawa Citizen, 16 Feb 2012 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:22:59 -0500 Ottawa Citizen, 16 February 2012 de LEPPER, Gerarda Elizabth "Gerry" - 79; Ottawa, ON; 13 Feb 2012 EASTON, Margaret (CAMERON) - 83; Ottawa, ON; burial 18 Feb 2012 HICKEY, Sheila - 68; Hull, ON; 14 Feb 2012 KALLMANN, Helmut Max - 89; Ottawa, ON; 12 Feb 2012 KINGSBURY, Jeffrey - 33; Quyon, QC; 13 Feb 2012 MAURICE, Dr. Roland Rodolphe - 84; Moncton, NB, 14 Feb 2012 NEWTON, William John "Bill" - 70; Cheneville, QC; 12 Feb 2012 SMITH, Kieran "Kevin" - ; Ottawa, ON; 14 Feb 2012 WARD, George Earl - 84; Ottawa, ON; 14 Feb 2012 Jenn gwnhwyfer@gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:51:06 -0000 From: "Davy Cannon" <davy.cannon1@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: "'Listowners List Posting'" <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002001ccefd6$b1d5f250$1581d6f0$@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm still not sure why, but the email address rang a bell with me, so I googled the first half of it, and the results seem to indicate that she is a legitimate subscriber. Certainly not anonymous. Davy Cannon, Dorchester, Dorset I am willing to admit that this may well turn out to be nothing more than my own paranoia, but for most of this day I have sat here watching one and then another successful subs come in for the following addy: gwnhwyfer@gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:02:12 -0500 From: Joe Makowiec <antigonish@makowiec.org> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <201202201405.q1KE5PlA018379@makowiec2.makowiec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 2-20-2012 01:51 AM, Lin wrote: >Both are similar addresses to the one David mentions, strange >mixtures of letters and all gmail. I am no expert, but it looks like the address (gwnhwyfer) may be Welsh for Jennifer. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:38:05 -0800 From: Sue <sudown@cwnet.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: Listowners List Posting <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <50259.1329748685@cwnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nothing is amiss... read her blog... She's a librarian with an interest in genealogy... http://readingincanada.blogspot.com/p/review-policy.html ---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:16:24 -0500 From: Lee Cognetta <daycogs@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4F4263C8.9030401@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dear Everyone: I'm one of the ones who generally stays in the background unless I have a real question or something particular to say. I just went to the list archives and read - as anyone can do - the progression of postings on the subject at hand. Anyone reading those archived messages will see the 'suspect' person's email address, a discussion about whether it is made up of strange letters and some subsequent postings about whether or not this person might have some malicious intent. If they had email in the 1600s, the postings about possible witches in Salem might have sounded similar. I think that this is disgraceful and totally agree that the easiest thing for the initial poster to have done was to simply email the person and try to verify that she has a valid interest in the lists she has joined. Lee Cognetta ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:50:00 -0500 From: "David McMillan" <dmcduke@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: "Lee Cognetta" <daycogs@earthlink.net>, <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <023EDCAFE0EE49E0B05681969CE47E87@DavidPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original -----Original Message----- From: Lee Cognetta I think that this is disgraceful and totally agree that the easiest thing for the initial poster to have done was to simply email the person and try to verify that she has a valid interest in the lists she has joined. Lee Cognetta I agree, Lee. Simply compose a welcome email asking if there's anything you can help with...it would be a nice thing to do with anyone joining. By doing so, you could ferret out their intent. Dave ------------------------------ To contact the LISTOWNERS list administrator, send an email to LISTOWNERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the LISTOWNERS mailing list, send an email to LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16 *****************************************