I think it HELD (rather than discarded) the message because it came from a subscriber to the list. Only non-subscriber mail would be discarded outright. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Cc: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Tue, Aug 21, 2018 2:06 pm Subject: Re: [LO] Re: the "L" in the email address? At 01:53 PM 8/21/2018, Joan Young via LISTOWNERS wrote: >So the -L made MailMan THINK the LIST address was not in the To or >CC addresses all because it was NOT ... the -L address was. Thanks for summarizing in an such a clear and concise way :) However, Mailman is apparently recognizing the -L (and presumably the -D) address as an alias, because it held the message rather than rejecting as not at this address, and sent the held message notice to the listowner, me. Pat

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 20:49:52 +0100, Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> wrote: > At 02:57 PM 8/21/2018, Joan Young wrote: >> I think it HELD (rather than discarded) the message because it came >> from a subscriber to the list. Only non-subscriber mail would be >> discarded outright. > > I agree EXCEPT, how did Mailman know the poster was a subscriber to the > Rootsweb-Help mailing list unless it recognized > rootsweb-help-L@rootsweb.com as an ALIAS for rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com That's actually very easy to explain. The aliasing is done in the mail delivery system that pushes it to the rootsweb-help list. However, the mailman software has not been told that it has a alias so it throws a wobbly not about list membership but about the list name (as it knows it) not being in the headers. Malcolm. -- Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@weald.org.uk>

At 02:57 PM 8/21/2018, Joan Young wrote: >I think it HELD (rather than discarded) the message because it came >from a subscriber to the list. Only non-subscriber mail would be >discarded outright. I agree EXCEPT, how did Mailman know the poster was a subscriber to the Rootsweb-Help mailing list unless it recognized rootsweb-help-L@rootsweb.com as an ALIAS for rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Pat