As of February 20th there were still hackers getting into systems due to Java... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=2&ved=0CDMQqQIoADAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxbusiness.com%2Ftechnology%2F2013%2F02%2F20%2Fjava-link-in-apple-facebook-and-twitter-hacks%2F&ei=QFsrUcCSH4Xc2AW32IFo&usg=AFQjCNFpP9h1CE48kVmhSe-Wev-9UgGI6Q&sig2=4k0xE_S058Q6-bSq_l3dNg Why would I want something that vulnerable on my machine? AND if I am not missing it WHY would I put it back on my machine and risk my job and everything? Lainee -----Original Message----- From: Janet Crawford Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 6:31 AM To: LISTOWNERS Subject: [LO] Java If you go to the Java site, you will see that it is in its 11th revision at the moment and I'm sure by now that they have closed that security breach. If you have downloaded the most current version, you are most likely just fine. Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2/25/2013 6:40 AM, Lainee Denton-Jones wrote: > As of February 20th there were still hackers getting into systems due to > Java... > > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=2&ved=0CDMQqQIoADAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxbusiness.com%2Ftechnology%2F2013%2F02%2F20%2Fjava-link-in-apple-facebook-and-twitter-hacks%2F&ei=QFsrUcCSH4Xc2AW32IFo&usg=AFQjCNFpP9h1CE48kVmhSe-Wev-9UgGI6Q&sig2=4k0xE_S058Q6-bSq_l3dNg > > Why would I want something that vulnerable on my machine? AND if I am not > missing it WHY would I put it back on my machine and risk my job and > everything? > > Lainee Lainee: If you are not missing it, then leave it off. Simple. I have no problem with you doing that. I have been reminded, however, that Listowners-L is sometimes not the best place to get advice on technical matters not related to RootsWeb. Darrell

I have to agree this list is not for expert help on computers. ;-0. I'm even surprised that Pig has let it go on this long! If you read the article carefully it says to disable it for browsers it says nothing about deleting it. If you don't need it that's fine and dandy, but I have older programs installed on my older computer that do need it. I did disabled in for browsers and my favorite game is still working On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Darrell A. Martin <darrellm@sprynet.com> wrote: > On 2/25/2013 6:40 AM, Lainee Denton-Jones wrote: >> As of February 20th there were still hackers getting into systems due to >> Java... >>

Lainee Denton-Jones wrote: > As of February 20th there were still hackers getting into systems due to > Java... > Why would I want something that vulnerable on my machine? AND if I am not > missing it WHY would I put it back on my machine and risk my job and > everything? But is it *really* that vulnerable? Or are there other things, such as poor security, involved as well? My guess is there are other factors involved as well. The media only publishes what makes for a good story, and that doesn't always include the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. How secure is your machine? Do you have a software firewall or a hardware one or both? Is it up to date? Run the ShieldsUp! test at https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and you'll find out. It's perfectly safe. I've been using it for years and I know many others who also run periodic checks. Just follow the instructions. My machine is in full stealth mode. It effectively doesn't exist. It doesn't responde to probes. Nothing, nada, nowt, zilch or any other way you want to put it. If one of my email address gets hacked, it won't be on my computer. It'll be on an email provider's server. I don't keep an address book but there are mails in most addresses though, which can also be a source. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk