Darrell- Let me clarify: when I say with the admin's permission I am referring ONLY to the few lists where this specific announcement would BE considered on-topic -- not for hundreds of unrelated lists. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing situation. Joan In a message dated 2/14/2013 9:46:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, darrellm@sprynet.com writes: You had me nodding emphatically right up until "AND with permission of the admins of those lists." I disagree with that. A posted announcement is either within my list rules, including relevancy, and DOES NOT NEED my permission; or is not within my list rules, and CANNOT GET my permission.

Guess, I'm hard-headed. First I haven't seen any of these emails. BUT- I'm not understanding - How can a email (as statted by you all talking about it) that is advertizing a GENEALOGICAL JAMBOREE EVENT.. Not be on topic for a genealogical list? I'm sort of confused here, just because it is not focaused on a specific surname, area, or time frame... it is a gathering of genealogists thus relevant to any genealogical mailing list. Why else are mailing lists created but to spread/ share/ disseminate data on Genealogy... Nelda L. Percival – Helping with something I believe in: http://www.AWAbosnia.org ; http://inmemoryofvucko.org Please visit our online shop in aid of Bosnia's animals at http://awabosnia.org/shop > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:23:30 -0500 > To: darrellm@sprynet.com; > Subject: Re: [LO] Mass Postings on lists... > > Darrell- > > Let me clarify: when I say with the admin's permission I am referring ONLY > to the few lists where this specific announcement would BE considered > on-topic -- not for hundreds of unrelated lists. It doesn't have to be an all > or nothing situation. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 2/14/2013 9:46:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > darrellm@sprynet.com writes: > > You had me nodding emphatically right up until "AND with permission of > the admins of those lists." I disagree with that. A posted announcement > is either within my list rules, including relevancy, and DOES NOT NEED > my permission; or is not within my list rules, and CANNOT GET my > permission. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So Sorry, I should have added in about mass postings. What is so wrong about being efficient? Most of us are busy with family or jobs or??? So you give yourself a half hour to get what you consider relevant information about genealogy out to as many lists as possible. MASS MAILINGS if it isn't spam I see no problem with that either. Personally, I think "WE" admins get way to into ourselves, Yes I know I just raised a hornet's nest... but is a mailing list there for YOUR convince or to put out as much data as possible on a specific part of genealogy. I have the flue so probably should comment on all this, but it is how I feel.. A mailing list does not belong to you, it is there for you to guide just like raising a child, you don't control it, you nurture it. Out of 10 people you would be lucky to find two unrelated individuals who have the exactly the same ideas and goals for a mailing list. End of my two cents I'm going back to bed to nurse this horrible headache and cough. Nelda Nelda L. Percival – Helping with something I believe in: http://www.AWAbosnia.org ; http://inmemoryofvucko.org Please visit our online shop in aid of Bosnia's animals at http://awabosnia.org/shop

On 2/14/2013 10:23 AM, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > Darrell- > Let me clarify: when I say with the admin's permission I am referring > ONLY to the few lists where this specific announcement would BE > considered on-topic -- not for hundreds of unrelated lists. It doesn't > have to be an all or nothing situation. > Joan Joan: We agree completely on that part of it. I simply do not think that requiring advanced approval by the admin is effective in ANY situation. Therefore, as I see things, subscribers asking for permission just wastes my time. I tell my subscribers, "If the post is on topic, post it. If not, don't bother to ask; the answer will be 'no'." If a message is genuinely marginal, then by definition it will do no great harm -- I use those rare instances as teaching opportunities. Clearly, this is a matter of opinion. Other admins will do things differently. Darrell