I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a reason. I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got grilled by the member because it was not in the reject. I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! Dan

I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. We all make mistakes at times! Valorie On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a reason. > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got grilled > by the member because it was not in the reject. > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > Dan -- http://about.me/valoriez

Its not a misstake. It was caught in the header stated as such. According to the reject page we should have that option. The peoson who was rejected made a note his copy stated (reason) and was blank. That was directly pointed out by the member. Some one tagging the controls should read the mail man dox online its very specific how it works and how it should be installed. I had planned to use it once. Too many fine details. Miss one thing and messes up stuff. Having defunk admin and incomplete controls is not out misstake. Lots of list admins saying same things. Dan On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 4:38 PM Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > We all make mistakes at times! > > Valorie > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > reason. > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > grilled > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > Dan > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need more good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way to engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. Anne On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < [email protected]> wrote: > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > We all make mistakes at times! > > Valorie > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > reason. > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > grilled > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > Dan > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct the subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to give a reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part as with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made me look bad because the reject reason was blank. Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it going to be known its not serived like it should be? On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < [email protected]> wrote: > I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need more > good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > > I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that > publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way to > engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > > Anne > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > > > We all make mistakes at times! > > > > Valorie > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > > reason. > > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > > grilled > > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > > Dan > > > > -- > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb > . > > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > > -- > Anne Mitchell > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of things to change. You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or tomorrow. If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me know. Anne On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct the > subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. > I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to give a > reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part as > with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made me > look bad because the reject reason was blank. > Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it going > to be known its not serived like it should be? > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need > more > > good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > > > > I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that > > publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way > to > > engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > > > > Anne > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > > > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > > > > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > > > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > > > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > > > > > We all make mistakes at times! > > > > > > Valorie > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > > > reason. > > > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > > > grilled > > > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > > Mailing Lists. 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View our Privacy Statement at > > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information. > > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Anne Mitchell > > > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. 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If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail address and composing a message in our own email programme. Or am I wrong? Lin On 17/04/2018 16:10, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: > Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of > things to change. > > You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. > > I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: > http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: > http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp > > I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or > tomorrow. > > If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me > know. > > Anne > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct the >> subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. >> I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to give a >> reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part as >> with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made me >> look bad because the reject reason was blank. >> Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it going >> to be known its not serived like it should be? >> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need >> more >>> good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. >>> >>> I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that >>> publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way >> to >>> engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you >>>> say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. >>>> >>>> Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it >>>> is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject >>>> line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. >>>> >>>> We all make mistakes at times! >>>> >>>> Valorie >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a >>>> reason. >>>>> I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got >>>> grilled >>>>> by the member because it was not in the reject. >>>>> I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! >>>>> Dan >>>> -- >>>> http://about.me/valoriez >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >>>> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >> https://lists.rootsweb >>> . >>>> ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >>>> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >>>> >>>> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. >>>> ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >> information. >>>> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >>>> >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>>> community >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anne Mitchell >>> >>> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >>> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >>> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >>> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >>> >>> View the archives for this list at: >>> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ >> [email protected]/ >>> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. >>> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >>> >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. >> ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >> >> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. >> ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> >> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. >> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >

That is correct. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Lin Duke <[email protected]> wrote: > If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at > the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail > address and composing a message in our own email programme. > > Or am I wrong? > > Lin > > > On 17/04/2018 16:10, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: > > Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list > of > > things to change. > > > > You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. > > > > I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: > > http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: > > http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp > > > > I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or > > tomorrow. > > > > If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let > me > > know. > > > > Anne > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct > the > >> subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. > >> I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to > give a > >> reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part > as > >> with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made > me > >> look bad because the reject reason was blank. > >> Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it > going > >> to be known its not serived like it should be? > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need > >> more > >>> good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > >>> > >>> I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) > that > >>> publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a > way > >> to > >>> engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > >>> > >>> Anne > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > >>>> say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > >>>> > >>>> Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > >>>> is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > >>>> line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > >>>> > >>>> We all make mistakes at times! > >>>> > >>>> Valorie > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > >>>> reason. > >>>>> I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > >>>> grilled > >>>>> by the member because it was not in the reject. > >>>>> I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > >>>>> Dan > >>>> -- > >>>> http://about.me/valoriez > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > >>>> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > >> https://lists.rootsweb > >>> . > >>>> ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > >>>> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >>>> > >>>> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > >>>> ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >>>> > >>>> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > >> information. > >>>> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >>>> > >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >>>> community > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Anne Mitchell > >>> > >>> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > >>> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > >>> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > >>> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >>> > >>> View the archives for this list at: > >>> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > >> [email protected]/ > >>> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > >>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information. > >>> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > >>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >>> > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >>> community > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > >> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb. > >> ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > >> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >> > >> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > >> ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >> > >> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information. > >> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

Lin - On 17/04/2018 16:25, Lin Duke wrote: > If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at > the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail > address and composing a message in our own email programme. I use Thunderbird, and have the ImportExportTools add-on added on. So, when a notification of a held message arrives, with text: 'As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting:' and the would-be post as an attachment, I can import it into my in-box such that it appears as a normal email, and reply to it there. I did this even in the previous Mailman - that way I have a record of the correspondence. Wendy

I use a filter to put them in a folder. same for subscriber, and before when we have moderator request. Filters are easy in thunderbird . On 04/17/2018 09:01 AM, Wendy Archer wrote: > Lin - > > On 17/04/2018 16:25, Lin Duke wrote: >> If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at >> the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail >> address and composing a message in our own email programme. > > I use Thunderbird, and have the ImportExportTools add-on added on. > > So, when a notification of a held message arrives, with text: > > 'As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the > following mailing list posting:' > > and the would-be post as an attachment, I can import it into my in-box > such that it appears as a normal email, and reply to it there.  I did > this even in the previous Mailman - that way I have a record of the > correspondence. > > > > Wendy > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists.  Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > Your privacy is important to us.  View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information.  Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/release-3.0/src/mailman/app/docs/bans.html How to ban. Dan

I am not quite clear what the difference between 'discard' and 'reject' is? Both have the same effect, i.e. the message disappears into the ether. Anne ANGUS List Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Anne Gillespie Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 17 April 2018 16:10 To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators Subject: [LO]Re: message reject Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of things to change. You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or tomorrow. If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me know. Anne On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct > the subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. > I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to > give a reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix > that part as with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me > what he got. Made me look bad because the reject reason was blank. > Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it > going to be known its not serived like it should be? > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists > > need > more > > good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > > > > I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) > > that publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might > > be a way > to > > engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > > > > Anne > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as > > > you say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > > > > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if > > > otherwise it is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a > > > *good* subject line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > > > > > We all make mistakes at times! > > > > > > Valorie > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put > > > > in a > > > reason. > > > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still > > > > got > > > grilled > > > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with > > > RootsWeb Mailing Lists. 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Reject returns it to the sender Discard does not inform the sender So if its spam and you reject you are telling them its a valid address I would never use reject at all now, it has no use Its a matter of copy the subject line and message, and create a new email with the reason for rejection (usually the wrong address) A lot of faff really when it should be a facility to give a reason for rejection Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17-Apr-18 4:28 PM, Anne Burgess via LISTOWNERS wrote: > I am not quite clear what the difference between 'discard' and 'reject' is? > Both have the same effect, i.e. the message disappears into the ether. > > Anne > ANGUS List Administrator

Quite agree. On 17/04/2018 16:32, Nivard Ovington wrote: > A lot of faff really when it should be a facility to give a reason for > rejection

I am really sorry because I have been trying to stay out of this debate BUT this is RIDICULOUS. Why on earth would TPTB expect LOs to spend time creating a new message from their own email account, to do this? It doubles (and more) the work. Previously we would select reject, a bog standard statement would appear something like "Your message has been reviewed by the listowner and deemed unsuitable for the list/ is too big" and we would quickly edit this to say "you posted in HTML, please send again in plain text" or whatever....and hit submit. It seems now we are expected to go to the held messages, copy the email address and click reject and then open our email programme, paste the address, put a subject line "Your message to XXX list" and then start a whole email Dear BLAH (assuming we know who 191police @ hotmail.com is) I have just rejected your message (might need more detail if they have sent more than 1) because blahh blahh, include the solution, put in some closing phrase and sign it and send it. I ABSOLUTELY get that software is what it is, but I also know I own a handful of "quiet" lists and work full time. With respect to Anne, Valorie et al who are clearly trying to be helpful I am starting to feel paranoid that RW are doing this deliberately so we all get so sick of it we bail and they can then close down all the lists (which begs the question why upgrade). I would like to remind RW that we are VOLUNTEERS and should be a) treated with respect and b) supported to make our jobs as easy as possible, not add to our workload. BTW, Dan, I too remember clearly being told not to use BCC on any emails to any lists! I would like to ask that the decision not to change this ability is reviewed. Best wishes, Sherry Landa On 17 April 2018 at 16:10, Anne Gillespie Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: > Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of > things to change. > > You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. > >

HEAR, HEAR! We need to be able to tell a person why a message is rejected and we shouldn't have to jump through hoops to do it. If the option to return a note to the writer was possible with the old MailMan, surely it would be possible to add that option to the new version. Lynne On 4/17/2018 1:51 PM, Sherry Landa wrote: > I am really sorry because I have been trying to stay out of this debate BUT > this is RIDICULOUS. > > Why on earth would TPTB expect LOs to spend time creating a new message > from their own email account, to do this? It doubles (and more) the work. > Previously we would select reject, a bog standard statement would appear > something like "Your message has been reviewed by the listowner and deemed > unsuitable for the list/ is too big" and we would quickly edit this to say > "you posted in HTML, please send again in plain text" or whatever....and > hit submit. <snip>

Thats just what I did. But the member was making it look like we can't follow directions because that field was not filled in. I will not make a problem of this. Just wont use it. Dan On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 8:11 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < [email protected]> wrote: > Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of > things to change. > > You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. > > I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: > http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: > http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp > > I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or > tomorrow. > > If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me > know. > > Anne > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct > the > > subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. > > I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to > give a > > reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part as > > with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made > me > > look bad because the reject reason was blank. > > Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it going > > to be known its not serived like it should be? > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need > > more > > > good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > > > > > > I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) > that > > > publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a > way > > to > > > engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > > > > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > > > > > > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise > it > > > > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > > > > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at > that. > > > > > > > > We all make mistakes at times! > > > > > > > > Valorie > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in > a > > > > reason. > > > > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > > > > grilled > > > > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > > > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. > Poof! > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with > RootsWeb > > > > Mailing Lists. 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Please put that on the list of things to change. We need to be able to easily tell someone why his/her post is being rejected. Writing a note after the rejection is a waste of our time when we know we can both reject the post and give a reason for it at one time via MailMan. Lynne On 4/17/2018 11:10 AM, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: > Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of > things to change. > > You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. > >

I can throw it on the list, sure. But it is way, way down on the list. The list is so very long and covers all of the RootsWeb products. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Lynne <[email protected]> wrote: > Please put that on the list of things to change. We need to be able to > easily tell someone why his/her post is being rejected. Writing a note > after the rejection is a waste of our time when we know we can both reject > the post and give a reason for it at one time via MailMan. > > Lynne > > > On 4/17/2018 11:10 AM, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: > >> Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of >> things to change. >> >> You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

I have advised my subscribers of the problem we have, in that we have no facility to reject with a reason for that rejection Further advising them to be careful of what they post (ie no full digest etc), re subject line and copied back content and to use the correct email address as I may not be able to give a reason for rejection And should a post not appear on the list, to check thoroughly the address they used is subscribed and content, then re-post if needed They need to take responsibility if we don't have the tools to do the job For all the spam it doesn't matter, discard and done But will judge each held post on its merits and reject or discard accordingly Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17-Apr-18 10:45 PM, Lynne wrote: > Please put that on the list of things to change.  We need to be able to > easily tell someone why his/her post is being rejected.  Writing a note > after the rejection is a waste of our time when we know we can both > reject the post and give a reason for it at one time via MailMan. > > Lynne > > > On 4/17/2018 11:10 AM, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: >> Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the >> list of >> things to change. >> >> You can send a note if you like after you reject the message.