Good idea to test all of our list's archives, Nivard. Just tested LancsGen, which seems to work okay. Search All Lists appears to work okay, but how would we know? The Eng-Surrey list admin thought that her list's archives were made private as part of the "new and improved" RootsWeb. There may be other admins out there that think the same thing. Judging by participation on this list, there seem to be few admins that are subscribed to it so many admins might not have a clue about some of the problems we've been experiencing. Lynne Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > >Thats an odd one isn't it > >I tried with my usual browser which I use for Rootsweb, and as I am a >subscriber to Eng-Surrey it let me view the archives > >Tried a different browser and got the message you reported > >So in that browser I tried another two lists, one I am not subscribed to >and both let me view the archives, so it appears to be just Eng-Surrey > >Unless others I haven't tried are also "private" > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >

Thats an odd one isn't it I tried with my usual browser which I use for Rootsweb, and as I am a subscriber to Eng-Surrey it let me view the archives Tried a different browser and got the message you reported So in that browser I tried another two lists, one I am not subscribed to and both let me view the archives, so it appears to be just Eng-Surrey Unless others I haven't tried are also "private" Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/12/2018 17:12, Lynne wrote: > Was going to recommend to one of my subscribers to post to another list, Eng-Surrey, but before doing so thought I'd check to see if he'd already posted there. I was very surprised to click on the archives link to find "This mailing list is private. You must be subscribed to view the archives." Why would we have private archives, especially for a location list like Eng-Surrey? A glitch? > > Lynne

Will do. Thanks! If those subscription requests were back from the blacklisting, can't imagine what those newly approved subscribers think when they get their welcome messages. lol Lynne Anne Mitchell <annerootsweb@gmail.com> wrote: > >Our best guess is when we were having issues being blacklisted by ATT and >Earthlink, a lot of requests were stuck in the queue instead of being sent >out to owners. > >I would recommend checking those queues from time to time to make sure >nothing is there. Even if you have Confirm or Open, if someone never >receives the email for whatever reason, the request remains in that queue. > >Anne >

Was going to recommend to one of my subscribers to post to another list, Eng-Surrey, but before doing so thought I'd check to see if he'd already posted there. I was very surprised to click on the archives link to find "This mailing list is private. You must be subscribed to view the archives." Why would we have private archives, especially for a location list like Eng-Surrey? A glitch? Lynne

Note that under Settings - Subscription Policy, these are the options: Open: Subscriptions are added automatically Confirm: Subscribers need to confirm the subscription using an email sent to them Moderate: Moderators will have to authorize each subscription manually. Confirm then Moderate: First subscribers have to confirm, then a moderator needs to authorize. If you are not set to Moderate or Confirm then Moderate, then no subscription requests should show up in the Subscription Requests tab. Correct me if I am wrong. Mike On 12/14/2018 8:17 AM, Lynne wrote: > Uh oh! I knew the subscription request page was there because I've had to go there to approve subscriptions, but because of this recent thread, out of curiosity I took a look at the subscription requests for a few of my lists. Three out of the first five I checked had subscription requests pending for which I've never received notification. Then I checked all my lists and found about 20 more subscription requests. All of those lists were set for Confirm under the subscription policy. I've approved all of the subscription requests (who knows how long they've been sitting there!) and changed all of the lists' subscription policy to Open. > > Might be a good idea for all of us to check for subscription requests. > > Lynne > > > Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> wrote: >> Thank you thank you! I have to admit <blush> I never knew that page was THERE. It worked...and I see other requests there also but I have no idea how old they may be ... so for now I'm leaving them alone. >> >> >> Joan Young >> jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com> >> >

Our best guess is when we were having issues being blacklisted by ATT and Earthlink, a lot of requests were stuck in the queue instead of being sent out to owners. I would recommend checking those queues from time to time to make sure nothing is there. Even if you have Confirm or Open, if someone never receives the email for whatever reason, the request remains in that queue. Anne On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 6:24 AM Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > Uh oh! I knew the subscription request page was there because I've had to > go there to approve subscriptions, but because of this recent thread, out > of curiosity I took a look at the subscription requests for a few of my > lists. Three out of the first five I checked had subscription requests > pending for which I've never received notification. Then I checked all my > lists and found about 20 more subscription requests. All of those lists > were set for Confirm under the subscription policy. I've approved all of > the subscription requests (who knows how long they've been sitting there!) > and changed all of the lists' subscription policy to Open. > > Might be a good idea for all of us to check for subscription requests. > > Lynne > > > Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > > > >Thank you thank you! I have to admit <blush> I never knew that page was > THERE. It worked...and I see other requests there also but I have no idea > how old they may be ... so for now I'm leaving them alone. > > > > > >Joan Young > >jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Uh oh! I knew the subscription request page was there because I've had to go there to approve subscriptions, but because of this recent thread, out of curiosity I took a look at the subscription requests for a few of my lists. Three out of the first five I checked had subscription requests pending for which I've never received notification. Then I checked all my lists and found about 20 more subscription requests. All of those lists were set for Confirm under the subscription policy. I've approved all of the subscription requests (who knows how long they've been sitting there!) and changed all of the lists' subscription policy to Open. Might be a good idea for all of us to check for subscription requests. Lynne Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > >Thank you thank you! I have to admit <blush> I never knew that page was THERE. It worked...and I see other requests there also but I have no idea how old they may be ... so for now I'm leaving them alone. > > >Joan Young >jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com> >

I would go ahead an approve them. From: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 9:54 AM To: Anne Mitchell <amitchell@ancestry.com>; listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Subscription problem Thank you thank you! I have to admit <blush> I never knew that page was THERE. It worked...and I see other requests there also but I have no idea how old they may be ... so for now I'm leaving them alone. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Anne Mitchell <amitchell@ancestry.com<mailto:amitchell@ancestry.com>> To: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com>>; listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com<mailto:listowners@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wed, Dec 12, 2018 10:48 am Subject: RE: Subscription problem Go to the Subscription Request tab and see if they are there. If that doesn’t work, send me the list and the email and I’ll look into it. From: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:28 AM To: listowners@rootsweb.com<mailto:listowners@rootsweb.com>; Anne Mitchell <amitchell@ancestry.com<mailto:amitchell@ancestry.com>> Subject: Subscription problem This is directed at Anne but I'm posting to the list in case others might have the same issue. I've got someone trying to subscribe to a list (this one) and they tried subscribing and never got the confirmation email. They have no trouble receiving other RootsWeb list mail. I tried subbing them on the admin page and get an error message that there is already a subscription request pending. The individual also tried subbing on the webpage and also got this error message. Question: is there a way to clear out the pending subscription request so that we can get this person subbed to the list? Do they clear on their own in a specified time or does it require some special action by staff? Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com>

Thank you thank you! I have to admit <blush> I never knew that page was THERE. It worked...and I see other requests there also but I have no idea how old they may be ... so for now I'm leaving them alone. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Anne Mitchell <amitchell@ancestry.com> To: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com>; listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 12, 2018 10:48 am Subject: RE: Subscription problem Go to the Subscription Request tab and see if they are there. If that doesn’t work, send me the list and the email and I’ll look into it. From: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:28 AM To: listowners@rootsweb.com; Anne Mitchell <amitchell@ancestry.com> Subject: Subscription problem This is directed at Anne but I'm posting to the list in case others might have the same issue. I've got someone trying to subscribe to a list (this one) and they tried subscribing and never got the confirmation email. They have no trouble receiving other RootsWeb list mail. I tried subbing them on the admin page and get an error message that there is already a subscription request pending. The individual also tried subbing on the webpage and also got this error message. Question: is there a way to clear out the pending subscription request so that we can get this person subbed to the list? Do they clear on their own in a specified time or does it require some special action by staff? Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com

Go to the Subscription Request tab and see if they are there. If that doesn’t work, send me the list and the email and I’ll look into it. From: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:28 AM To: listowners@rootsweb.com; Anne Mitchell <amitchell@ancestry.com> Subject: Subscription problem This is directed at Anne but I'm posting to the list in case others might have the same issue. I've got someone trying to subscribe to a list (this one) and they tried subscribing and never got the confirmation email. They have no trouble receiving other RootsWeb list mail. I tried subbing them on the admin page and get an error message that there is already a subscription request pending. The individual also tried subbing on the webpage and also got this error message. Question: is there a way to clear out the pending subscription request so that we can get this person subbed to the list? Do they clear on their own in a specified time or does it require some special action by staff? Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com<mailto:jyoung6180@aol.com>

This is directed at Anne but I'm posting to the list in case others might have the same issue. I've got someone trying to subscribe to a list (this one) and they tried subscribing and never got the confirmation email. They have no trouble receiving other RootsWeb list mail. I tried subbing them on the admin page and get an error message that there is already a subscription request pending. The individual also tried subbing on the webpage and also got this error message. Question: is there a way to clear out the pending subscription request so that we can get this person subbed to the list? Do they clear on their own in a specified time or does it require some special action by staff? Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com

I am still receiving them and am very glad that they're not blocked! As I only have one list that was gatewayed, I have the luxury of sharing board posts with my listers. The unblocked gateway messages are a great reminder for me to do this. I understand that I'm in a minority, so in anticipation of your blocking my gateway notices, my phone reminds me to look weekly for new message board posts. In the meantime, thanks so much for keeping me informed! Mary Richardson At 03:25 PM 12/10/2018, Anne Mitchell wrote: >I have no problem with you doing that :-) > >We haven't tracked down why some of you are still getting these message, >they should be blocked. > >On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 9:59 AM Marge <kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > David, > > > > Just add the address for the gatewayed messages to the Banned address > > list. It works for me! > > > Marge in Southern California

Its everyone David I was just asking someone offlist and returned to my inbox to find 5 posts Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/12/2018 18:37, David E. Cann wrote: > Is anyone else out there not getting any list mail besides me and 2 or 3 of my subscribers? I have received no list mail at all since yesterday, along with 3 subscribers but it does not appear to be another spam block because there is no similarity in domains and appears to be everyone. ☹ > > > David

Read previous email from Anne. The lists have been down. Lin On 10/12/2018 18:37, David E. Cann wrote: > Is anyone else out there not getting any list mail besides me and 2 or 3 of my subscribers? I have received no list mail at all since yesterday, along with 3 subscribers but it does not appear to be another spam block because there is no similarity in domains and appears to be everyone. ☹ > > > David > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It appears that lists were down for a bit -- not really sure how long. While the process that sends and received email appeared to be up and running, well, it wasn't. We have restarted it and are working on updating our monitoring. If you have an email that didn't go through, you will need to resend it. Anne

I have no problem with you doing that :-) We haven't tracked down why some of you are still getting these message, they should be blocked. On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 9:59 AM Marge <kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com> wrote: > David, > > Just add the address for the gatewayed messages to the Banned address > list. It works for me! > > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > > > ----- On Nov 21, 2018, at 1:02 AM, listowners-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Send LISTOWNERS mailing list submissions to listowners@rootsweb.com > > > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > > subscribe to listowners-request@rootsweb.com > > > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > > body unsubscribe to listowners-request@rootsweb.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > listowners-owner@rootsweb.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of LISTOWNERS digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. List tools (Pat Asher) > > 2. Re: List tools (Nivard Ovington) > > 3. Re: List tools (Pat Asher) > > 4. Re: List tools (Nivard Ovington) > > 5. Re: List tools (David E. Cann) > > 6. Re: List tools (Nivard Ovington) > > 7. Re: List tools (Richard Berkheiser) > > 8. Re: List tools (David E. Cann) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

A post I sent to one of my lists yesterday was returned to me today with the error message: The mail system <listname@rootsweb.com>: delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024: Connection refused Anyone else seeing this? I am posting this to Listowners to see if the problem is universal, or list-specific. Pat Asher

Is anyone else out there not getting any list mail besides me and 2 or 3 of my subscribers? I have received no list mail at all since yesterday, along with 3 subscribers but it does not appear to be another spam block because there is no similarity in domains and appears to be everyone. ☹ David

Anyone know how for many more minutes Mailman will be making adjustments? Lin

David, I am not sure what post or list you are referring to, but the original post dated Saturday the 1st is gone from the list archives and so is the reply to it and there are no more problematic posts on this list since then. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 5:12 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Re: Removing a post from the archives yes, the whole thread if original is deleted. Likewise, if a third, fourth reply, all that is downline from that reply get deleted. David Samuelsen On 12/4/2018 11:26 AM, David E. Cann wrote: > Nivard, > > How about the reply as well? If the original post is deleted, will > the inappropriate reply be removes along with it? > > > David