Another plausible possibility. I wonder, what is the value to the parent company to assign "Inactive" to certain lists if the archives will be preserved? They still take up server space. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher [mailto:pasher@ee.net] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 4:40 PM To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists At 03:59 PM 12/23/2018, Jim Jackson wrote: >I just found Ahaus which is active with the last message in August 2013! > >Oh well. Could it depend on whether the list has an active (registered) admin? Pat A. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 03:59 PM 12/23/2018, Jim Jackson wrote: >I just found Ahaus which is active with the last message in August 2013! > >Oh well. Could it depend on whether the list has an active (registered) admin? Pat A.

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 1:13 PM Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> wrote: > Nivard, > > I agree with everything you say. > > But let me add the rise of sites like www.eggsa.org which, inter alia, now > has over 700,000 gravestone photos contributed and organized by volunteers. > > I don't think the discussion lists will ever be as vibrant as they once > were, but their archives are well worth preserving. > > Given my tendencies as an amateur archivist and historian, I intensely > dislike social media in general, and Facebook in particular, to ask > questions and document genealogy interests and responses. I'll leave it at > that, but people should be rid of all illusions that Facebook is any kind > of repository. > > Keith > ::snip old:: My lists aren't very active anymore either, but then -- they never were all active. I took them on as a service to prospective researchers. If none showed up, they weren't very useful! Lists with no posts should just be deleted, in my opinion. I don't know what the point is of tagging lists as "inactive." That said, when I google for names, dates and places I often pull up my old list posts, Message Board posts, and blog posts. Which is great; sometimes they have replies that tell me facts I've forgotten, tell me stories I didn't remember, or even photos I didn't recall. So I'll keep posting everywhere, even Facebook, because you never know when someone will find the information and get in touch. Unfortunately FB posts *can't* be found via search engines, which makes it pretty useless. But that's where the people are, so I stay, dreadful as I find it. I use Twitter as wll, and often tweet about genealogy findings, among other things. @valoriez if you are interested. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

Nivard, I agree with everything you say. But let me add the rise of sites like www.eggsa.org which, inter alia, now has over 700,000 gravestone photos contributed and organized by volunteers. I don't think the discussion lists will ever be as vibrant as they once were, but their archives are well worth preserving. Given my tendencies as an amateur archivist and historian, I intensely dislike social media in general, and Facebook in particular, to ask questions and document genealogy interests and responses. I'll leave it at that, but people should be rid of all illusions that Facebook is any kind of repository. Keith On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 4:00 PM Jim Jackson <listsitter@charter.net> wrote: > > I just found Ahaus which is active with the last message in August 2013! > > Oh well. > > Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:29 PM > To: listowners@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists > > Hi Jim > > Could it be that the inactive lists so far are the lower letters? > > ie they are working through A to Z perhaps > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

I just found Ahaus which is active with the last message in August 2013! Oh well. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:29 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists Hi Jim Could it be that the inactive lists so far are the lower letters? ie they are working through A to Z perhaps Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I had not thought of that. you are probably right. But 3 months of inactivity to cause de-activation? It seems the inactive time would be longer than that. Thanks for your input. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:29 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists Hi Jim Could it be that the inactive lists so far are the lower letters? ie they are working through A to Z perhaps Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Jim Could it be that the inactive lists so far are the lower letters? ie they are working through A to Z perhaps Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/12/2018 20:20, Jim Jackson wrote: > I wonder what criteria has been used in setting lists as "Inactive". One list (Crouch) had posts through September this year and is "Inactive" while another "Badgerow" is still active with its last post in March! > > I get more and more frustrated. > > Jim

I meant to add that I will be quiet now. I have raised too much fuss with folks who can do no more than I can about this. Sorry. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Jackson [mailto:listsitter@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:24 PM To: 'Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators' Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists I just found another (Yarberry), still active with its last post in 2015! Jim

I just found another (Yarberry), still active with its last post in 2015! Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Jackson [mailto:listsitter@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:20 PM To: 'Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators' Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists I wonder what criteria has been used in setting lists as "Inactive". One list (Crouch) had posts through September this year and is "Inactive" while another "Badgerow" is still active with its last post in March! I get more and more frustrated. Jim

I wonder what criteria has been used in setting lists as "Inactive". One list (Crouch) had posts through September this year and is "Inactive" while another "Badgerow" is still active with its last post in March! I get more and more frustrated. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Private Caller [mailto:wyants@sasktel.net] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:40 PM To: Michael; listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists ‎Or, in the inimitable words of A. Bunker, "You can lead a gift horse to water, but you can't look in its mouth. " PSW Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the SaskTel network. Original Message From: Michael Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 11:34 To: listowners@rootsweb.com Reply To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists Research, research, research... then publish. Michael Alan Lewis Santa Cruz, California

‎Or, in the inimitable words of A. Bunker, "You can lead a gift horse to water, but you can't look in its mouth. " PSW Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the SaskTel network.   Original Message   From: Michael Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 11:34 To: listowners@rootsweb.com Reply To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists     Research, research, research... then publish.     Michael Alan Lewis     Santa Cruz, California On 12/23/18 11:31 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > And when you have posted, over and over and still get little or no > reaction ? > > I suspect most list owners have tried to promote posting to their > lists, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make then drink > > Or post to the lists ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 23/12/2018 19:00, Michael wrote: >>      One way to deal with inactive lists is to TA DA! activate them! >> Post to them, elicit comments, ask for a list check-in to see what >> others are doing and to revive interest in the list. One need not >> wait for others or the list owner to keep the list active. >> >>      Write, write, write until our fingers scream for mercy! >> >>      Michael Alan Lewis >>      Santa Cruz, California > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    Research, research, research... then publish.     Michael Alan Lewis     Santa Cruz, California On 12/23/18 11:31 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > And when you have posted, over and over and still get little or no > reaction ? > > I suspect most list owners have tried to promote posting to their > lists, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make then drink > > Or post to the lists ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 23/12/2018 19:00, Michael wrote: >>      One way to deal with inactive lists is to TA DA! activate them! >> Post to them, elicit comments, ask for a list check-in to see what >> others are doing and to revive interest in the list. One need not >> wait for others or the list owner to keep the list active. >> >>      Write, write, write until our fingers scream for mercy! >> >>      Michael Alan Lewis >>      Santa Cruz, California > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community

And when you have posted, over and over and still get little or no reaction ? I suspect most list owners have tried to promote posting to their lists, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make then drink Or post to the lists ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/12/2018 19:00, Michael wrote: >     One way to deal with inactive lists is to TA DA! activate them! > Post to them, elicit comments, ask for a list check-in to see what > others are doing and to revive interest in the list. One need not wait > for others or the list owner to keep the list active. > >     Write, write, write until our fingers scream for mercy! > >     Michael Alan Lewis >     Santa Cruz, California

I have to disagree that Ancestry would like to see the lists die off, just the reverse IMHO Why would they spend money on new servers and software if they wanted them to die off There are plenty of people on facebook of that there is no doubt but they are in the main not anywhere near as knowledgeable as those on the lists Such a lot of poor advice on facebook its hard to believe your eyes at times Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/12/2018 19:18, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > I have had an inactive list re-activated, but I really had to plead. > > The lists are quiet because people are using web-based alternatives, such as, > Yahoo Groups and Facebook. I don't know what's to be done to reverse the trend. > I will always prefer mailing lists, but I guess those of us who do are a > dwindling minority. > > I suspect Ancestry would like to see the mailing lists die off, in part because > they get no ad revenue from them. > > Diana

I have had an inactive list re-activated, but I really had to plead. The lists are quiet because people are using web-based alternatives, such as, Yahoo Groups and Facebook. I don't know what's to be done to reverse the trend. I will always prefer mailing lists, but I guess those of us who do are a dwindling minority. I suspect Ancestry would like to see the mailing lists die off, in part because they get no ad revenue from them. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Jackson [mailto:listsitter@charter.net] > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:17 AM > To: 'Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators' > Subject: [LO] Inactive Lists > > Can someone at some time make request for re-activation of a list (with > compelling arguments) and have it granted? It seems that as many lists have > been marked "Inactive" as are not. Or will the inactive lists, at some > time, be completely removed from the system? I can see that for those which > have no posts, but I am concerned about those which have posts but have been > quiet. Almost all the lists I am either admin or moderator have been quiet > for some time. > > > > I have a personal reason for this concern as Crouch, one of my family names, > is on the "Inactive" roster. > > > > I also disagree with the arguments against continuing forwarding message > board posts to the lists. I have been active with Rootsweb for 18 years so > I have seen a thing or two here. > > > > Jim "Pops" Jackson > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

Mary, Do not dismay! You hit a nerve when you used the word "Aging" I adopted my first list in 1999 & still have it! So, you see, I, too, have aged with the RootsWeb Families and I've had a few upgrades... esp. over the last year!! Many of us list owners are in the same boat! At one time one of my lists had over three hundred subscribers. Yet, when a new comer posted their interests there was very little response or help! Many of the list members were what we called "lurkers" -folks who sat back and waited for a connection to Fall Into Their Lap. (Wish Upon A Star!!) In the old days as list owners we were encouraged to stir up conversation... sadly, that never worked for me. I'm not giving up any lists, as I just never know what the future holds! Improvements that have been made I often did not like at first, and, then after using them for a while saw the wisdom in the upgrade. I do wish there was a link under the "Help" tab on Ancestry homepage just like there is to the Message Boards. But that's another subject. As far as friends, many of us are still here... just quietly "listening" in the background, and we're not finished !! Take Care & Stay with us and don't worry about all the terminology! Sue, On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM Mary Russell <maryiola@windstream.net> wrote: > All 28 or more of my surname lists are inactive. Mainly because I think > of the confusion on rootsweb, the times we are living in and maybe the list > members aging and slowing down like ME, and no doubt many other reasons., > I have found over 84 years and 50 of them doing genealogy that most “ > improvements” seem to be a step back into confusion. I will admit that most > of the subjects you speak of on this list go right over my head. > It is sad for me that the friendships and sharing of the past we had on > Rootsweb are over. I think if my lists go inactive that I too am finished. > It is sad. > Mary >

    One way to deal with inactive lists is to TA DA! activate them! Post to them, elicit comments, ask for a list check-in to see what others are doing and to revive interest in the list. One need not wait for others or the list owner to keep the list active.     Write, write, write until our fingers scream for mercy!     Michael Alan Lewis     Santa Cruz, California On 12/23/18 10:48 AM, Jim Barrett wrote: > I know many of the list I am subscribed to, RootsWeb and Yahoo, have slowed down to a trickle or become inactive as people have switched to Facebook, which I'll never use. > I have never heard bad press for RootsWeb or Yahoo but we hear about Facebook all of the time. > Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX > > On Sunday, December 23, 2018, 9:00:49 AM CST, Mary Russell <maryiola@windstream.net> wrote: > > All 28 or more of my surname lists are inactive.  Mainly because I think of the confusion on rootsweb, the times we are living in and maybe the list members aging and slowing down like ME, and no doubt many other reasons., > I have found over 84 years and 50 of them doing genealogy that most “ improvements” seem to be a step back into confusion. I will admit that most of the subjects you speak of on this list go right over my head. > It is sad for me that the friendships and sharing of the past we had on Rootsweb are over. I think if my lists go inactive that I too am finished. It is sad. > Mary > > > From: Nivard Ovington > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:41 AM > To: listowners@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists > > Hi Jim > > If I recall Annes post correctly, those lists with no recent posts were > to be made inactive > > But not removed, the archives were to remain accessible > > Re gatewayed posts, I think most subscribers were confused by them at > best so I don't mourn their passing > > The boards are still there and accessible > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 23/12/2018 12:16, Jim Jackson wrote: >> Can someone at some time make request for re-activation of a list (with >> compelling arguments) and have it granted?  It seems that as many lists have >> been marked "Inactive" as are not.  Or will the inactive lists, at some >> time, be completely removed from the system?  I can see that for those which >> have no posts, but I am concerned about those which have posts but have been >> quiet.  Almost all the lists I am either admin or moderator have been quiet >> for some time. >> >> >> >> I have a personal reason for this concern as Crouch, one of my family names, >> is on the "Inactive" roster. >> >> >> >> I also disagree with the arguments against continuing forwarding message >> board posts to the lists.  I have been active with Rootsweb for 18 years so >> I have seen a thing or two here. >> >> >> >> Jim "Pops" Jackson > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I know many of the list I am subscribed to, RootsWeb and Yahoo, have slowed down to a trickle or become inactive as people have switched to Facebook, which I'll never use. I have never heard bad press for RootsWeb or Yahoo but we hear about Facebook all of the time. Jim Barrett - Timpson, TX   On Sunday, December 23, 2018, 9:00:49 AM CST, Mary Russell <maryiola@windstream.net> wrote: All 28 or more of my surname lists are inactive.  Mainly because I think of the confusion on rootsweb, the times we are living in and maybe the list members aging and slowing down like ME, and no doubt many other reasons.,  I have found over 84 years and 50 of them doing genealogy that most “ improvements” seem to be a step back into confusion. I will admit that most of the subjects you speak of on this list go right over my head. It is sad for me that the friendships and sharing of the past we had on Rootsweb are over. I think if my lists go inactive that I too am finished. It is sad. Mary From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:41 AM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists Hi Jim If I recall Annes post correctly, those lists with no recent posts were to be made inactive But not removed, the archives were to remain accessible Re gatewayed posts, I think most subscribers were confused by them at best so I don't mourn their passing The boards are still there and accessible Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/12/2018 12:16, Jim Jackson wrote: > Can someone at some time make request for re-activation of a list (with > compelling arguments) and have it granted?  It seems that as many lists have > been marked "Inactive" as are not.  Or will the inactive lists, at some > time, be completely removed from the system?  I can see that for those which > have no posts, but I am concerned about those which have posts but have been > quiet.  Almost all the lists I am either admin or moderator have been quiet > for some time. > >  > > I have a personal reason for this concern as Crouch, one of my family names, > is on the "Inactive" roster. > >  > > I also disagree with the arguments against continuing forwarding message > board posts to the lists.  I have been active with Rootsweb for 18 years so > I have seen a thing or two here. > >  > > Jim "Pops" Jackson _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Apologies David But at the time communication was pretty sparse. I intended no slight to the work of those engaged in rebuilding the system. And I will avoid comment on the other issues such as whether Ancestry had a sound notion of what it would take to keep RootsWeb up and running post-takeover Or didn't...its all under the bridge now. My purpose was to learn what I can about current usage of mailing lists ...whether it dropped or whether attrition in that regard is primarily according to subject etc....because at this stage there is no reason for me to keep Carib-L if there is no action and no need. Im also a researcher and Im curious to learn where people are going and what tools they are using differently than before. That's it Cod -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 11:15 AM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Re: Inactive Lists what fiasco? 1. Aging Rootsweb servers, requiring moving to new servers 2. Current management took action to save Rootsweb. Previous management neglected. 3. Operating systems were so old, requiring major upgrading 4. The geek who did Mailman programs for RW lists died, never finished the upgrading, forcing Ancestry to go full version upgrade. 5. Not-exploited security flaw discovered in Rootsweb (usernames and passwords were maintained in a single file anyone could exploit but not discovered by hackers), requiring total shutdown of RW websites and new usernames and passwords were reissued. 6. General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) went into effect May 2018, forcing longer shut down of RW websites while the Ancestry IT go through each site for any living data to remove before reactivate the websites. (Understood to be over 8,000, so that took them a while to go through EACH page!) 7. Admins of Mailing lists vanished without trace. 8. Facebook, what else is new? David Samuelsen On 12/23/2018 8:41 AM, Chris Codrington wrote: > fiasco at > RootsWeb/Ancestry this past year _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listown ers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Chris I think your/our experience with the Carib list is pretty much par for the course across the board on all lists with very few exceptions But I don't blame Rootsweb/Ancestry for the demise, although the downtime certainly didn't help (it wasn't really that long although it seemed longer) and there were valid reasons for taking Rootsweb down Most lists were already either in decline or dormant before the downtime I put this down to a variety of things The plethora of other forms of social media The means to answer most questions, which by and large have already been asked and answered many times over, easily found with google etc The massive amount of data now available compared to a few short years ago And the number of computer savvy users these days (not all thats for sure) a great many are more aware of how to answer their own questions or find the information themselves rather than need to resort to asking in a forum or on list Several sites started their own forums, each in turn diluted the overall number of posts And no doubt other reasons I haven't thought of here I held off using facebook for a long time, but in the end the lack of posts to the lists (I am on over 80) meant it was either use facebook or other forums or give up Facebook is rather disordered, many groups either overlap each other or don't cover places/subjects of interest and the admins are unregulated and often ignorant of how to communicate or run groups properly The main downside to facebook is the lack of archives, you actually need to know its there before you can find anything as you need to be a member of a group to search its previous posts But there are several others which I haven't explored, snapchat? etc Will we ever get back to the lists as they were in years gone by? I very much doubt it but I do believe there is a future for the lists Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/12/2018 15:41, Chris Codrington wrote: > Hello Nivard and others > > Ive been administering the Carib-Gen List > (gatewayed to SocGenWestIndies) since 1997 and > have seen it go from being a very dynamic list to > utter silence. > Any interest held the last four years in the list > seems to have been killed by the fiasco at > RootsWeb/Ancestry this past year or so. > Nivard to your knowledge are there other go-to's > serving similar purpose these days via different > media such as blogs or FB? > Research in the Carib is so darned tricky I would > think the group would still be of some use to > folks to confer on sources and such but at this > stage I cant even get a roll call going. Insights? > Chris Codrington > Carib-Gen List