I suspect he means delete posts FROM the board that are caught in held messages. There is no way (unless he is also board admin) he could delete a board post made by someone else. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2019 12:12 pm Subject: [LO] Re: Board messages being held from lists Why on earth would you even want to delete posts to the board? They are entirely separate things and always have been Some prefer the lists, some prefer the boards Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/01/2019 16:55, Mike Flannigan wrote: > > I'm thinking I cannot delete posts on the Board. > When you hit "Sign In", it goes to an Ancestry sign-in page. > I don't think I have an Ancestry account. > > > > Mike _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Why on earth would you even want to delete posts to the board? They are entirely separate things and always have been Some prefer the lists, some prefer the boards Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/01/2019 16:55, Mike Flannigan wrote: > > I'm thinking I cannot delete posts on the Board. > When you hit "Sign In", it goes to an Ancestry sign-in page. > I don't think I have an Ancestry account. > > > > Mike

My Ancestr account is same as my Rootsweb account. Has been for years. Try your Rootsweb username and password. Rick B On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 11:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan@att.net wrote: > > I'm thinking I cannot delete posts on the Board. > When you hit "Sign In", it goes to an Ancestry sign-in page. > I don't think I have an Ancestry account. > > > > Mike > > > On 1/13/2019 9:06 AM, Joan Young via LISTOWNERS wrote: > > What might be more appropriate since the gateways are being discontinued > and you don't want to be guilty of copying someone's (don't laugh) > copyrighted original material (the board poster) you might be better off > discarding all of these posts and putting a footer on your list messages > with a link to the allied board suggesting people may want to also check > the board. > > > > > > Joan Young > > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dhettrick <dhettrick@earthlink.net> > > To: listowners@rootsweb.com <listowners@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2019 5:03 am > > Subject: [LO] Re: Board messages being held from lists > > > > Thank you Joan and Nivrard. I haven’t been paying attention - I was > hoping to outwait the kinks in the system. > > > > I only started getting the notices a few weeks ago, so I assumed the > gateways were restored. > > Now that you mention it, I’m only getting notices for a few of my lists. > > > > Most of the messages were spam but one was real. I think I’ll post it > myself with appropriate warnings. > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Diane > >> > >> Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be > reinstated > >> > >> So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot > approve them > >> > >> Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown > >> > >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I'm thinking I cannot delete posts on the Board. When you hit "Sign In", it goes to an Ancestry sign-in page. I don't think I have an Ancestry account. Mike On 1/13/2019 9:06 AM, Joan Young via LISTOWNERS wrote: > What might be more appropriate since the gateways are being discontinued and you don't want to be guilty of copying someone's (don't laugh) copyrighted original material (the board poster) you might be better off discarding all of these posts and putting a footer on your list messages with a link to the allied board suggesting people may want to also check the board. > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dhettrick <dhettrick@earthlink.net> > To: listowners@rootsweb.com <listowners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2019 5:03 am > Subject: [LO] Re: Board messages being held from lists > > Thank you Joan and Nivrard. I haven’t been paying attention - I was hoping to outwait the kinks in the system. > > I only started getting the notices a few weeks ago, so I assumed the gateways were restored. > Now that you mention it, I’m only getting notices for a few of my lists. > > Most of the messages were spam but one was real. I think I’ll post it myself with appropriate warnings. > > Diane > > > > >> Hi Diane >> >> Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be reinstated >> >> So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot approve them >> >> Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you.  This is what I wanted. The 1st one I went to (Taney county MO) shows some fairly recent posts: Joseph Louis SNOWDEN, born MD 17 Dec 1811, died Hollister, Taney County, MO, 04 Oct 1879     Erica LaFata     0     03 Nov 2018 11:46AM Looking for distant relatives     Randall Cutbi...     0     22 Jun 2018 03:48PM Payton Keesee born Virginia, moved to Missouri     CHARGREER     16     28 Apr 2018 03:49AM Floyd & Melinda Robertson Tennessee to Missouri     steveh95242     1     19 Apr 2018 02:36PM George C STIFFLER from Ohio to Taney Co MO before 1880     Keith Pervatt     6     04 Apr 2018 05:58PM Frances Mahorney 1768-1837     Jen Hutton     1     18 Aug 2017 10:49AM Capt. William Lane Fenex, Taney County Union Militia DonnineSusanF...     1     24 May 2017 11:03AM There are many more - this is just a sample. I'm wondering how far back in time I need to go to get a full list of messages that did not make it to the MOTaney list?  Back about 4 years I suspect?? Seems like just having these pages around is restricting posts to our lists.  These boards are just a trap to fall into. Mike Sorry if I broke anybody's copyright. I don't pay much attention to things like that. On 1/13/2019 9:12 AM, Joan Young via LISTOWNERS wrote: > https://www.ancestry.com/boards/ (From here you can navigate to any board. > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Flannigan <mikeflan@att.net> > To: listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2019 7:49 am > Subject: [LO] Re: Board messages being held from lists > > > Please post a URL link to any board page. > I knew where these were 15-20 years ago, but I never > used them. > > > Mike > > > On 1/12/2019 3:07 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> Hi Diane >> >> Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be >> reinstated >> >> So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot >> approve them >> >> Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

https://www.ancestry.com/boards/ (From here you can navigate to any board. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Flannigan <mikeflan@att.net> To: listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2019 7:49 am Subject: [LO] Re: Board messages being held from lists Please post a URL link to any board page. I knew where these were 15-20 years ago, but I never used them. Mike On 1/12/2019 3:07 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Diane > > Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be > reinstated > > So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot > approve them > > Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

What might be more appropriate since the gateways are being discontinued and you don't want to be guilty of copying someone's (don't laugh) copyrighted original material (the board poster) you might be better off discarding all of these posts and putting a footer on your list messages with a link to the allied board suggesting people may want to also check the board. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: dhettrick <dhettrick@earthlink.net> To: listowners@rootsweb.com <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2019 5:03 am Subject: [LO] Re: Board messages being held from lists Thank you Joan and Nivrard. I haven’t been paying attention - I was hoping to outwait the kinks in the system. I only started getting the notices a few weeks ago, so I assumed the gateways were restored. Now that you mention it, I’m only getting notices for a few of my lists. Most of the messages were spam but one was real. I think I’ll post it myself with appropriate warnings. Diane > Hi Diane > > Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be reinstated > > So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot approve them > > Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Please post a URL link to any board page. I knew where these were 15-20 years ago, but I never used them. Mike On 1/12/2019 3:07 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Diane > > Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be > reinstated > > So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot > approve them > > Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thank you Joan and Nivrard. I haven’t been paying attention - I was hoping to outwait the kinks in the system. I only started getting the notices a few weeks ago, so I assumed the gateways were restored. Now that you mention it, I’m only getting notices for a few of my lists. Most of the messages were spam but one was real. I think I’ll post it myself with appropriate warnings. Diane > Hi Diane > > Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be reinstated > > So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot approve them > > Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Diane Ann has said a few times that the board to list gateway will not be reinstated So your only course of action is to delete the links, you cannot approve them Why some get these links and others don't seems to be unknown Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 11/01/2019 23:45, Diane K. Hettrick wrote: > I keep getting emails about Board messages that don’t go through to the list because the author is not subscribed to the list. > > Nice that we’ve gotten that far. > > When I follow the link to approve the message, I get “message content could not be extracted” > > What do you know about this? > > Diane > > > Diane Hettrick

That is because they gateways don't work any longer and are not going to be reinstated. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Diane K. Hettrick <dhettrick@earthlink.net> To: listowners@rootsweb.com <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 11, 2019 6:46 pm Subject: [LO] Board messages being held from lists I keep getting emails about Board messages that don’t go through to the list because the author is not subscribed to the list. Nice that we’ve gotten that far. When I follow the link to approve the message,  I get “message content could not be extracted” What do you know about this? Diane Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I keep getting emails about Board messages that don’t go through to the list because the author is not subscribed to the list. Nice that we’ve gotten that far. When I follow the link to approve the message, I get “message content could not be extracted” What do you know about this? Diane Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net

Thanks for the assist. I know one person has tried at least twice. I'll contact them to verify how they are trying to add the new address. If we still can't get it done, I'll add them myself through the Mass Operations. Thanks again and have a wonderful day. -----Original Message----- From: Diana Gale Matthiesen Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 10:10 PM To: 'Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators' Subject: [LO] Re: Members' secondary e-mail not in member list It sounds like their secondary address is not actually subscribed. If it were, you would see it. The list software has no way to know two different addresses belong to the same person. > -----Original Message----- > From: vklehn@gt.rr.com [mailto:vklehn@gt.rr.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 5:26 PM > To: listowners@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LO] Members' secondary e-mail not in member list > > I’m sure this issue has been covered in a previous post, but I’m not > finding > an answer when I search for it. > > I have several members that have a second e-mail address in our list. > Their > secondary email address does not show up in the Member list. Is that > because > only the primary address shows? Or, is there some setting I, or they, need > to > adjust to make that second address show up in the Member list? > > Thanks in advance for the help, > Victoria _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It sounds like their secondary address is not actually subscribed. If it were, you would see it. The list software has no way to know two different addresses belong to the same person. > -----Original Message----- > From: vklehn@gt.rr.com [mailto:vklehn@gt.rr.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 5:26 PM > To: listowners@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LO] Members' secondary e-mail not in member list > > I’m sure this issue has been covered in a previous post, but I’m not finding > an answer when I search for it. > > I have several members that have a second e-mail address in our list. Their > secondary email address does not show up in the Member list. Is that because > only the primary address shows? Or, is there some setting I, or they, need to > adjust to make that second address show up in the Member list? > > Thanks in advance for the help, > Victoria

If they are going to post from a secondary address they have to subscribe it as well as the primary address. If it isn't on the subscriber list it is not subscribed to the list. The best thing to do is subscribe both addresses and set the secondary address to "no mail" so the subscriber doesn't get duplicates of all list mail. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: vklehn <vklehn@gt.rr.com> To: listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jan 6, 2019 5:26 pm Subject: [LO] Members' secondary e-mail not in member list I’m sure this issue has been covered in a previous post, but I’m not finding an answer when I search for it. I have several members that have a second e-mail address in our list. Their secondary email address does not show up in the Member list. Is that because only the primary address shows? Or, is there some setting I, or they, need to adjust to make that second address show up in the Member list? Thanks in advance for the help, Victoria_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I’m sure this issue has been covered in a previous post, but I’m not finding an answer when I search for it. I have several members that have a second e-mail address in our list. Their secondary email address does not show up in the Member list. Is that because only the primary address shows? Or, is there some setting I, or they, need to adjust to make that second address show up in the Member list? Thanks in advance for the help, Victoria

David, I understand it still works for the time being *IF* the subject is "subscribe." If the subject is "help" then you get a list of commands: The results of your email command are provided below. - Original message details: From: Pat Asher <pasher@ee.net> Subject: help Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 12:53:00 -0500 Message-ID: <2pttkp433w-1@m0143794.ppops.net> - Results: confirm - Confirm a subscription request. echo - Echo back your arguments. end - Stop processing commands. help - Get help about available email commands. join - Join this mailing list. leave - Leave this mailing list. stop - An alias for 'end'. subscribe - An alias for 'join'. unsubscribe - An alias for 'leave'. - Done. That indicates to me that at some point, the request address may stop recognizing the subscribe command and only send the list of recognized commands and aliases Pat At 10:14 AM 1/6/2019, W David Samuelsen wrote: >Pat, > >Funny you should say this but it still work with listname-request >and subject line with sub or unsub words. Even as late as few days ago. > >Revamped lists.rootsweb.com still use it but watch out for double >notices unless you remove the word from message body, leaving only >subject line alone. > >David Samuelsen > >On 1/5/2019 4:11 PM, Pat Asher wrote: >>says (un)subscribe requests should be send to >>listowners-(un)subscribe NOT listowners-request. listname-request >>has not been a valid address for (un)subscribe requests since the >>lists were brought back on line some 9 months ago. >>Insofar as listowners learning to read headers, you are correct >>that it is not required. And I also agree that most listowners >>don't have to know very much about them -- until or unless they are >>trying to solve an otherwise inexplicable subscriber problem. OTOH, >>understanding them on a minimal level makes you a better (more >>helpful) list admin for your subscribers. As always, investment by >>list admins comes down to personal choice. >>Pat Asher

Pat, Funny you should say this but it still work with listname-request and subject line with sub or unsub words. Even as late as few days ago. Revamped lists.rootsweb.com still use it but watch out for double notices unless you remove the word from message body, leaving only subject line alone. David Samuelsen On 1/5/2019 4:11 PM, Pat Asher wrote: > says (un)subscribe requests should be send to listowners-(un)subscribe > NOT listowners-request. listname-request has not been a valid address > for (un)subscribe requests since the lists were brought back on line > some 9 months ago. > > Insofar as listowners learning to read headers, you are correct that it > is not required. And I also agree that most listowners don't have to > know very much about them -- until or unless they are trying to solve an > otherwise inexplicable subscriber problem. OTOH, understanding them on a > minimal level makes you a better (more helpful) list admin for your > subscribers. As always, investment by list admins comes down to personal > choice. > > Pat Asher

Hi Pat That is precisely what I said, the correct addresses contain subscribe or unsubscribe and not join/leave/request or anything else It doesn't really matter if other variations actually work, we as admins should not be advising potential or present subscribers to use anything but the correct addresses as are found in every lists home page, that is why I suggest directing potential subscribers to the home page via the rootsweb home page, where they will learn how to search for a list, many of which they would never have thought existed How deep a list owner needs to go in learning the headers is entirely down to them, there is no requirement to learn how to read and manipulate them, and if that were a requirement to be a list owner, I would suggest there would only be a handful of list owners left ;-) As I just said to Mary off-list, I wouldn't learn how to mechanically fix a model T Ford, as the chances of me needing that knowledge are zero In ten years or so of being an admin I have never had the need to look at the headers, so why would I spend valuable time on learning how to? There may have been a greater need to be able to interpret the headers a couple of decades ago, but these days I would say its minimal Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> So we should not be trying to advise list owners or potential >> subscribers with something they don't understand and falls outside the >> standard commands as laid out in the subscribe / unsubscribe found on >> the lists home page > > Nivard, > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=listowners > > says (un)subscribe requests should be send to listowners-(un)subscribe > NOT listowners-request. listname-request has not been a valid address > for (un)subscribe requests since the lists were brought back on line > some 9 months ago. > > Insofar as listowners learning to read headers, you are correct that it > is not required. And I also agree that most listowners don't have to > know very much about them -- until or unless they are trying to solve an > otherwise inexplicable subscriber problem. OTOH, understanding them on a > minimal level makes you a better (more helpful) list admin for your > subscribers. As always, investment by list admins comes down to personal > choice. > > Pat Asher

I sent a subscribe message to listname-request this afternoon and was successfully subscribed. The only things I received back were a results of your email message confirming the subscription and a welcome message. Lynne Pat Asher <pasher@ee.net> wrote: <snip> > Mails sent to >listname-request now get a "help" reply, which >does tell them how to sub or unsub, but will not >process a sub or unsub request. This has been in >effect since the lists came back on line last year. > >Pat Asher > >