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    1. [LO] Seriously--I need help with the Ban List
    2. Randi
    3. I've been the list owner of the INMONROE for the past 11 years and never knew there was a ban list. Now the new director of the Monroe County History Center wants to subscribe to the list, but all of our combined efforts have failed. Finally I asked the help desk and was advised that the director's e-mail address was on the ban list. And sure enough, it is there, but I can't seem to delete it. I highlight the name, click to delete it, and click on "Submit Your Changes." This brings up a screen that starts with the big word "Error" in red and then all the names on the ban list in black. When I try to search for the e-mail address on this page, the page switches back to the opening page for the Ban List. What in the world am I doing wrong?? Randi

    03/21/2012 01:42:15
    1. [LO] Health
    2. Laura Schmidt
    3. Due to major health issues for my husband and myself I need to give up all mailing lists and boards BOCKES server=lists9 KLINK server=lists3 STEMBRIDGE server=lists2 STUCK server=lists2 VOUGHT server=lists2 WA-BCHS server=lists2 WA-TriCities-GenClass server=lists2 WASANJUA server=lists2 WINSHIP server=lists2 Laura Schmidt

    03/18/2012 07:14:13
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Janet Crawford
    3. Right on, Joan. I have had it go to spam on its own and have rescued it so I wouldn't be reporting it as spam. Maybe I will ignore it from now on IF it ever goes to spam again in my lifetime. Janet On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:55 PM, <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > Janet- > > My guess is they come through because the spam comes to you at an official > (admin) RootsWeb address and you likely have the address on an approved list > of some sort which lets it come through. I've had admin mail come to my spam > folder at times (it varies) and admin mail can be deleted directly from the > spam folder because it isn't LIST mail that would get reported to RootsWeb > to get you unsubbed for reporting it for spam. I doubt there is enough of it > to cause any blockages of RootsWeb either. Mind you I don't SEND this spam > to my spam folder if it comes to my inbox...I just delete it. But if it is > DIRECTED to spam I let it delete from there. > > Joan > > In a message dated 3/17/2012 1:12:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > reojan@gmail.com writes: > > Hi Joan, Having thought long on this, I don't think there is anything > Rootsweb can do because AVG, Windows and Google let this porn picture > come through as well. I think the only solution that can work is for > the admin to have an e-mail addy published on the general Information > page, so that mail comes directly to the admin without Rootsweb being > involved. That way we can mark the spam and porn as spam to our own > e-mail service. Google is very good then to redirect it to the spam > box after just a few messages. > In this case, Rootsweb appears to hinder dealing with spam to admin. > We need to get Rootsweb out of the way so we can deal with it.. > > Janet >

    03/17/2012 02:05:21
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Janet Crawford
    3. Hi Joan, Having thought long on this, I don't think there is anything Rootsweb can do because AVG, Windows and Google let this porn picture come through as well. I think the only solution that can work is for the admin to have an e-mail addy published on the general Information page, so that mail comes directly to the admin without Rootsweb being involved. That way we can mark the spam and porn as spam to our own e-mail service. Google is very good then to redirect it to the spam box after just a few messages. In this case, Rootsweb appears to hinder dealing with spam to admin. We need to get Rootsweb out of the way so we can deal with it.. Janet On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 4:16 PM, <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > Patrice- > > I can't answer that...I think you would have to ask the staff on the > HelpDesk. > > I know that even the RootsWeb staff email addresses get spam like that -- > so there is no apparent filtering done other than for mail directed to the > lists  -- filtered by the list software. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 3/17/2012 10:50:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > genealogy@cfl.rr.com writes: > > Joan, > > I know we can't change that here, but is it something that  should be > changed?  Why should admins get stuff that even RootsWeb  doesn't > want?  It could also be a safety issue.  What was the  thinking behind > the decision.  Do you know? > > Subjects can be  deceptive or non-existent and as has been discussed > here repeatedly, you  can't judge a sender by their email address.  I > use Mailwasher and  can preview emails without the images, so it's not > an issue for me.   But it could be for other List  Admins. > > Rel@ively, > Patrice > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/17/2012 11:12:33
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Lee- Not really. I have a RootsWeb address and mail to it and forwarded to me at AOL never is filtered in any way. I'd guess if you see filtering in YOUR admin mail it is taking place on your end...not RootsWeb's. Joan In a message dated 3/17/2012 1:57:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lhoffman@acm.org writes: I would say that Admin and Staff addresses are special in that we need to be able to get messages that are out of the ordinary. Both still are subject to some filtering.

    03/17/2012 10:00:11
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Janet- My guess is they come through because the spam comes to you at an official (admin) RootsWeb address and you likely have the address on an approved list of some sort which lets it come through. I've had admin mail come to my spam folder at times (it varies) and admin mail can be deleted directly from the spam folder because it isn't LIST mail that would get reported to RootsWeb to get you unsubbed for reporting it for spam. I doubt there is enough of it to cause any blockages of RootsWeb either. Mind you I don't SEND this spam to my spam folder if it comes to my inbox...I just delete it. But if it is DIRECTED to spam I let it delete from there. Joan In a message dated 3/17/2012 1:12:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, reojan@gmail.com writes: Hi Joan, Having thought long on this, I don't think there is anything Rootsweb can do because AVG, Windows and Google let this porn picture come through as well. I think the only solution that can work is for the admin to have an e-mail addy published on the general Information page, so that mail comes directly to the admin without Rootsweb being involved. That way we can mark the spam and porn as spam to our own e-mail service. Google is very good then to redirect it to the spam box after just a few messages. In this case, Rootsweb appears to hinder dealing with spam to admin. We need to get Rootsweb out of the way so we can deal with it.. Janet

    03/17/2012 09:55:08
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Megan Zurawicz
    3. On 3/17/2012 13:53, Lee Hoffman wrote: > I would say that Admin and Staff addresses are special in that we > need to be able to get messages that are out of the ordinary. Both > still are subject to some filtering. I know because of a recent > situation with one of my subscribers. In other cases, there have > been times when I have requested a subscriber to send me a screen > image of what they were seeing. I forgot to tell them to send it to > my regular address and it came to my admin address anyway. I was a > bit surprised, but liked it that way as I tend to look at my admin > mail with a little higher priority than regular mail. Thus, I saw > the message a bit sooner than if it came bto my regular address. Remember that you are not picking up admin mail at some admin address - the admin address is *forwarding* to whatever email address you have provided to mailman. Therefore, whatever filtering you choose to use (or your ISP chooses to use) at that address will apply equally to any mail which comes to you as admin. --pig

    03/17/2012 08:53:29
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Lee Hoffman
    3. genealogy@cfl.rr.com wrote: >I know we can't change that here, but is it something that should be >changed? Why should admins get stuff that even RootsWeb doesn't >want? It could also be a safety issue. What was the thinking behind >the decision. Do you know? > >Subjects can be deceptive or non-existent and as has been discussed >here repeatedly, you can't judge a sender by their email address. I >use Mailwasher and can preview emails without the images, so it's not >an issue for me. But it could be for other List Admins. I would say that Admin and Staff addresses are special in that we need to be able to get messages that are out of the ordinary. Both still are subject to some filtering. I know because of a recent situation with one of my subscribers. In other cases, there have been times when I have requested a subscriber to send me a screen image of what they were seeing. I forgot to tell them to send it to my regular address and it came to my admin address anyway. I was a bit surprised, but liked it that way as I tend to look at my admin mail with a little higher priority than regular mail. Thus, I saw the message a bit sooner than if it came bto my regular address. Hope this helps - Lee Hoffman/KY TMG Tips: <http://www.tmgtips.com> My website: <http://www.tmgtips.com/lhoffman> A user of the best genealogy program, The Master Genealogist (TMG)

    03/17/2012 07:53:15
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Patrice- I can't answer that...I think you would have to ask the staff on the HelpDesk. I know that even the RootsWeb staff email addresses get spam like that -- so there is no apparent filtering done other than for mail directed to the lists -- filtered by the list software. Joan In a message dated 3/17/2012 10:50:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, genealogy@cfl.rr.com writes: Joan, I know we can't change that here, but is it something that should be changed? Why should admins get stuff that even RootsWeb doesn't want? It could also be a safety issue. What was the thinking behind the decision. Do you know? Subjects can be deceptive or non-existent and as has been discussed here repeatedly, you can't judge a sender by their email address. I use Mailwasher and can preview emails without the images, so it's not an issue for me. But it could be for other List Admins. Rel@ively, Patrice

    03/17/2012 06:16:36
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Joan, I know we can't change that here, but is it something that should be changed? Why should admins get stuff that even RootsWeb doesn't want? It could also be a safety issue. What was the thinking behind the decision. Do you know? Subjects can be deceptive or non-existent and as has been discussed here repeatedly, you can't judge a sender by their email address. I use Mailwasher and can preview emails without the images, so it's not an issue for me. But it could be for other List Admins. Rel@ively, Patrice At 3/17/2012 03:00 AM, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: >Admin mail is never stripped...be careful. If it is looks like spam from >the subject or sender--just delete and do NOT open. > >Joan

    03/17/2012 04:48:39
    1. [LO] Admn mail
    2. Janet Crawford
    3. Well, This was new. I got an e-mail in through my admin mail that had a picture embedded in it. Not an attachment, but an embed that Rootsweb's computer did not strip away or stop. How does this happen please? When I opened the e-mail, the picture was there already. It was not a nice picture. It was porn. Anyone else get anything like this? Do I have to stop getting my admin mail altogether? Janet

    03/16/2012 04:52:04
    1. Re: [LO] Admn mail
    2. Admin mail is never stripped...be careful. If it is looks like spam from the subject or sender--just delete and do NOT open. Joan In a message dated 3/16/2012 6:55:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, reojan@gmail.com writes: Well, This was new. I got an e-mail in through my admin mail that had a picture embedded in it. Not an attachment, but an embed that Rootsweb's computer did not strip away or stop. How does this happen please? When I opened the e-mail, the picture was there already. It was not a nice picture. It was porn. Anyone else get anything like this? Do I have to stop getting my admin mail altogether? Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/16/2012 12:56:36
    1. Re: [LO] Help Desk Email Address?
    2. Jim Jackson
    3. I meant to send this to everyone as someone else might have the same question. I forgot to hit "Reply to All." listmaster@Rootsweb.com The removal tool is at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/remove. Best wishes, Jim "Pops" Jackson -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of genealogy@cfl.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:12 PM To: Listowners-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Help Desk Email Address? Hi, What is the help desk email address? I need to remove spam from archives. Thanks in advance. Rel@ively, Patrice ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/15/2012 02:06:25
    1. Re: [LO] admin
    2. Wendy Archer
    3. Martha - >I misplaced the link to log into the mailing list I manage (surname > Wiskow). Can anybody tell me the link please. http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/admindb/wiskow Wendy

    03/14/2012 11:58:33
    1. Re: [LO] admin
    2. JLA
    3. If you sign up to use my account you will never loose links at anything you do on ancestry.com again. Go to the RootsWeb home page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ very top on the right hand side it says "Welcome to RootsWeb sign in." By creating an account it consolidates Mailing Lists, Message Boards, World Connect postems, Rootslinks, WWW accounts, Freepages accounts and more. Joan Asche On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Martha Loven <mal9780@gmail.com> wrote: > > I misplaced the link to log into the mailing list I manage (surname > Wiskow). Can anybody tell me the link please. > > Martha

    03/14/2012 11:52:55
    1. [LO] admin
    2. Martha Loven
    3. I misplaced the link to log into the mailing list I manage (surname Wiskow). Can anybody tell me the link please. Martha

    03/14/2012 06:52:19
    1. [LO] Help Desk Email Address?
    2. Hi, What is the help desk email address? I need to remove spam from archives. Thanks in advance. Rel@ively, Patrice

    03/14/2012 06:11:44
    1. Re: [LO] LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34
    2. MargM
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <jcrosslin@gmail.com> To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [LO] LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34 > > > Sent from my iPhone > Heavens to Betsey why ? Dont iPhones have a delete key ? You didnt even add any text .......... Just sent a very long digest of messages back that everyones received at least once before with a meanlingless subject header of Re: [LO] LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34 If list admins do this what hope have new subscribers got ? Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast Australia

    03/11/2012 09:27:42
    1. [LO] ADMIN NOTE: (digest repost)
    2. Megan Zurawicz
    3. Folks, let me note a couple of points, then return you to hunting down all the clocks in the house (if you're in the US) that need set forward.... While we are all list admins here, we are *not* all admins of *this* list. If you feel the need to snark at a fellow poster based on what he or she has posted to the list, take it off list. It is *never* appropriate for a subscriber to this list to call out another subscriber *on the list* over what or how they have posted. You can take it up with the list admin (off list); you can take it up with the poster (off list). I'd hope you'd do it politely, but I realize that's a target only some folks will bother to aim at. Either way, it is not polite, helpful to the offender, or productive for the other people on the list for you to publicly chastise the person who has offended your sense of propriety. Thanks! --pig, admin

    03/10/2012 05:44:13
    1. [LO] Digests and subject lines
    2. David E. Cann
    3. MargM, . . . . to say nothing of a new digest now in the LO archives big enough to choke a horse as a result. <sigh> David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or on Skype at "david.e.cann" > > Sent from my iPhone > Heavens to Betsey why ? Dont iPhones have a delete key ? You didnt even add any text .......... Just sent a very long digest of messages back that everyones received at least once before with a meanlingless subject header of Re: [LO] LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 34 If list admins do this what hope have new subscribers got ? Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/10/2012 05:20:43