It could be a WorldGenWeb list. Is it listed under WorldGenWeb when you go to the browse mail lists page? If not, it could the the admin is connected to WorldGenWeb, has had the list forever, and just assumes the two go together. It has been known to happen. Nan On 4/25/2012 4:31 PM, Christina Hunt wrote: > This comment was posted by a list admin in response to a posting for free data > on a project website: > > >> This is a WorldGenWeb list. I don't mind postings letting folks know what > >> new things you have on your site, but I do mind making requests. Especially > >> when you haven't contacted me and asked if Mind. > > My understanding was that lists are no longer given out to a "project" but that > a county list is a county list. The project idea led to duplicate lists which > is no longer done. > > I know the pages describing lists are old and still often say the list is for > such and such a project. At least this is so in Ireland. > > I would like to know the current Rootsweb standing on genealogy projects owning > lists. > Does any one know? > Thanks, > Christina > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If the listadmin is found to prevent, restrict anyone from outside listadmin's project, the list can be taken away, once the complaint is filed and investigated by RW. The policy has already established for years governing the lists having NO variations of genweb in the mailing list names. David Samuelsen On 4/25/2012 6:08 PM, Nan wrote: > It could be a WorldGenWeb list. Is it listed under WorldGenWeb when you > go to the browse mail lists page? > > If not, it could the the admin is connected to WorldGenWeb, has had the > list forever, and just assumes the two go together. It has been known > to happen. > > Nan > > On 4/25/2012 4:31 PM, Christina Hunt wrote: >> This comment was posted by a list admin in response to a posting for free data >> on a project website: >> >> >> This is a WorldGenWeb list. I don't mind postings letting folks know what >> >> new things you have on your site, but I do mind making requests. Especially >> >> when you haven't contacted me and asked if Mind. >> >> My understanding was that lists are no longer given out to a "project" but that >> a county list is a county list. The project idea led to duplicate lists which >> is no longer done. >> >> I know the pages describing lists are old and still often say the list is for >> such and such a project. At least this is so in Ireland. >> >> I would like to know the current Rootsweb standing on genealogy projects owning >> lists. >> Does any one know? >> Thanks, >> Christina >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If the list IS a project list then those in charge of the project can control the content. I have never heard that projects are no longer being given lists if requested. The only thing I recall hearing is that if the lists become adoptable they can only be adopted out to those connected to the project. Joan In a message dated 4/25/2012 5:35:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, chrisnina@gmail.com writes: This comment was posted by a list admin in response to a posting for free data on a project website: >> This is a WorldGenWeb list. I don't mind postings letting folks know what >> new things you have on your site, but I do mind making requests. Especially >> when you haven't contacted me and asked if Mind. My understanding was that lists are no longer given out to a "project" but that a county list is a county list. The project idea led to duplicate lists which is no longer done. I know the pages describing lists are old and still often say the list is for such and such a project. At least this is so in Ireland. I would like to know the current Rootsweb standing on genealogy projects owning lists. Does any one know? Thanks, Christina ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That was old rule way back before 2002, before RW was acquired by Ancestry.com Now it is not adoptable by any project unless the list has the specific name "genweb" or any variation of that word in the mailing list name. ORBaker is not adoptable by any project and not restricted. Must be open to all projects. ORGenWeb is restricted to that project. RW policy - no more project county lists under any circumstances, too much problems already as it was back then. David Samuelsen On 4/25/2012 4:37 PM, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > If the list IS a project list then those in charge of the project can > control the content. I have never heard that projects are no longer being given > lists if requested. The only thing I recall hearing is that if the lists > become adoptable they can only be adopted out to those connected to the > project. > > Joan

Hi All, I haven't commented here in a long time, but in looking at the RootsWeb entry page for requesting a list I see I can request: ) Surnames ) Localities (Counties only) ) Miscellaneous They want you to input the requested list name and a description of it. This looks very much like Message Boards that allow: ) Surnames ) Localities ) Topics So please explain and differentiate the words Miscellaneous, Topics, and Projects. Looking at Topics on Message boards there are tons. I'm just trying to figure out what a project is and why you can't get permission to create a list for it. Is it that "project" implies something that "topics" doesn't? Who cares? If someone wants to create a list to share ideas that is somehow related to Genealogy why would someone else want to prevent their sharing? How about this project: Restoration of Old Stone Fort Historical Museum and the expansion of research materials about the period 1840-1900 including information about the people who lived there. What parts would not be allowed? The funding and reconstruction of a building? What if this mentioned who were the movers in shakers of getting the funding or doing the construction work. RW or Ancestry would have no idea about the depth of information or whether it will actually connect to genealogy until after the list goes into use. If the above project list were allowed, and I don't understand why not, then wouldn't it just be up to the facilitator to decide if posts were or were not on topic? If I had the project and you wanted to list new books about Texas that have been acquired at a library in California, I'd say this request to list your books is off topic because it has nothing to do with Old Stone Fort or the Nacogdoches area. However the poster would complain that it does have to do with TX. That is why the facilitator of list gets the big bucks and has to make these decisions. Am I missing something here? Why are projects not allowed but Miscellaneous and Topics are allowed? James R. Davis, Sacramento, Ca -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:40 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] Projects owning lists? If the listadmin is found to prevent, restrict anyone from outside listadmin's project, the list can be taken away, once the complaint is filed and investigated by RW. The policy has already established for years governing the lists having NO variations of genweb in the mailing list names. David Samuelsen On 4/25/2012 6:08 PM, Nan wrote: > It could be a WorldGenWeb list. Is it listed under WorldGenWeb when > you go to the browse mail lists page? > > If not, it could the the admin is connected to WorldGenWeb, has had > the list forever, and just assumes the two go together. It has been > known to happen. > > Nan > > On 4/25/2012 4:31 PM, Christina Hunt wrote: >> This comment was posted by a list admin in response to a posting for >> free data on a project website: >> >> >> This is a WorldGenWeb list. I don't mind postings letting folks know what >> >> new things you have on your site, but I do mind making requests. Especially >> >> when you haven't contacted me and asked if Mind. >> >> My understanding was that lists are no longer given out to a >> "project" but that a county list is a county list. The project idea >> led to duplicate lists which is no longer done. >> >> I know the pages describing lists are old and still often say the >> list is for such and such a project. At least this is so in Ireland. >> >> I would like to know the current Rootsweb standing on genealogy >> projects owning lists. >> Does any one know? >> Thanks, >> Christina >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

if it says 'genweb' in the mailing list name, it belongs to the project on loan. if it does not say at all - it belongs to Rootsweb and subject to RW's maintenance and list rules. RW owns every one of the lists hosted by RW. Restrictions are not tolerated on non-genweb lists (eg bans against various groups and websites) just because a mailing list is hosted/maintained by a person belonging to a project. These rules have not changed in more than 10 years. David Samuelsen On 4/25/2012 3:31 PM, Christina Hunt wrote: > This comment was posted by a list admin in response to a posting for free data > on a project website: > > >> This is a WorldGenWeb list. I don't mind postings letting folks know what > >> new things you have on your site, but I do mind making requests. Especially > >> when you haven't contacted me and asked if Mind. > > My understanding was that lists are no longer given out to a "project" but that > a county list is a county list. The project idea led to duplicate lists which > is no longer done. > > I know the pages describing lists are old and still often say the list is for > such and such a project. At least this is so in Ireland. > > I would like to know the current Rootsweb standing on genealogy projects owning > lists. > Does any one know? > Thanks, > Christina > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This comment was posted by a list admin in response to a posting for free data on a project website: >> This is a WorldGenWeb list. I don't mind postings letting folks know what >> new things you have on your site, but I do mind making requests. Especially >> when you haven't contacted me and asked if Mind. My understanding was that lists are no longer given out to a "project" but that a county list is a county list. The project idea led to duplicate lists which is no longer done. I know the pages describing lists are old and still often say the list is for such and such a project. At least this is so in Ireland. I would like to know the current Rootsweb standing on genealogy projects owning lists. Does any one know? Thanks, Christina

Staff took action and wiped out all the messages this person posted. David S. On 4/24/2012 9:15 PM, Carl Hommel wrote: > He hit the Wells Board today. I posted abuse. > Carl Hommel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deloris Williams > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:59 PM > To: listowners@rootsweb.com > Cc: helpdesk-post@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LO] AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 -Also RachelleG1951 > > This person is now all over the Boards under even more names. This is under > RachelleG1951, and they are Surname and Locality Boards, at the time of my > posting this it is 125 Boards and going up: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/authorposts.aspx?uname=RachelleG1951&uid=009846b4-0006-0000-0000-000000000000&uem=&rurl=http%3a%2f%2fboards.ancestry.com%2fsurnames.green%2f9258%2fmb.ashx > > > > > Deloris Williams > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paul L LeBlanc"<pleblan@aim.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:05 PM > To:<listowners@rootsweb.com> > Cc:<helpdesk-post@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LO] AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 > >> AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

He hit the Wells Board today. I posted abuse. Carl Hommel -----Original Message----- From: Deloris Williams Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:59 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Cc: helpdesk-post@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 -Also RachelleG1951 This person is now all over the Boards under even more names. This is under RachelleG1951, and they are Surname and Locality Boards, at the time of my posting this it is 125 Boards and going up: http://boards.ancestry.com/authorposts.aspx?uname=RachelleG1951&uid=009846b4-0006-0000-0000-000000000000&uem=&rurl=http%3a%2f%2fboards.ancestry.com%2fsurnames.green%2f9258%2fmb.ashx Deloris Williams -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:05 PM To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Cc: <helpdesk-post@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 > AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949

This person is now all over the Boards under even more names. This is under RachelleG1951, and they are Surname and Locality Boards, at the time of my posting this it is 125 Boards and going up: http://boards.ancestry.com/authorposts.aspx?uname=RachelleG1951&uid=009846b4-0006-0000-0000-000000000000&uem=&rurl=http%3a%2f%2fboards.ancestry.com%2fsurnames.green%2f9258%2fmb.ashx Deloris Williams -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:05 PM To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Cc: <helpdesk-post@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 > AB books are in the Fs as CaroleF1949 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Content-Type@lists3.rootsweb.com Does this look like a correct address? that rootsweb would be placing on a list, why would they be subbing when they can do it themselves? Thanks Cara

Cara <cara_links@bigpond.com> wrote: > Content-Type@lists3.rootsweb.com > Does this look like a correct address? that rootsweb would be placing on a > list, why would they be subbing when they can do it themselves? No, not at all. Any legitimate RootsWeb e-mail address wouldn't use lists3 in the domain. It is very unlikely that anyone at RootsWeb would ever attempt to subscribe a RootsWeb address to one of their mailing lists. Even the Listmaster usually sends e-mail from the <support_rootsweb@custhelp.com> address. Content-Type is a standard field from e-mail headers, so this looks like a really bad attempt to create an e-mail address. The spammers usually do a far better and more convincing job of creating e-mail address to send spam from, so a big fail on their part. Cheers Elmo. P.S. Words (with the exception of family names) that are all in capitals are considered to be shouted. Please don't shout in your Subject line, unless you do really mean to shout.

Hi Linda, Rootsweb would not be sending you email about a wire transfer, unless you had made arrangements with them - and therefore had prior knowledge. With that in mind, knowing that you had no such contact with Rootsweb, you know that the email you received absolutely HAS to be spam, without even opening it. The address has been spoofed, it is not from Rootsweb at all. All you should do is delete it and move on. The part you should not share on the list is the link they want you to click on. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy jowerslh@aol.com said the following on 13/04/2012 5:17 p.m.: > I know now from previous posts to NOT forward a suspicious spam e-mail to the list. In today's mail I received an e-mail: > FROM: support@rootsweb.com RE: Wire Transfer Confirmation (FED 96091RT455) > > This is the first one received seemingly from "rootsweb." To me this seems to be an obvious spam message. It seems like lately a lot of spam type messages have be coming via my AOL [especially] mail account. They are often some type of "confirmation" type subject for an order, subscription, delivery notice ostensibly from UPS, etc. I have been deleting a lot of these. Has anyone else noticed these in their messages in general or are there just more not being caught by AOL? I have also received a good many similar, obvious spam messages to my rootsweb list that I just delete. They are obviously not 'subscribe' mails or genealogy posts - it seems like a lot of them coming to my one small list. Often they are similar to the above message line. > > What I can do& I think safely do is post the 'message source' information. I did not want to do that before asking though. Would that information be helpful to know why this e-mail came through? > I would appreciate any helpful responses to this request. As a newbie list owner I had some hesitation about posting this from reading some other responses that really slam posters for their 'ignorance.' I admit to not knowing that much yet but I am trying to 'lurk& learn.' > > To bed now, I'll check my mail tomorrow. Thank you, > Linda Jowers

Hi all, I noticed my lists are getting a lot of off topic questions about the 1940 census, so asked rootsweb for a 1940 census list. "Pig" has given me permission to post it here, so those who want to can share it with their lists if they feel like "the 1940 census is taking over your list and you'd rather it didn't..." or if you would just like to tell your other subscribers about it. The name of the list is USCENSUS1940 as usual, subscribe to: USCENSUS1940-request@rootsweb.com post messages to: USCENSUS1940@rootsweb.com List info page: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Census-US/USCENSUS1940.html Thanks for reading, Courtney sitnah@cox.net

Linda, You're definitely not the only admin to be receiving such e-mails at your personal address. Norton Antivirus has stripped out the attachments from any that come to my address with an attachment, so please don't try to open any that you get. What tends to happen is that the spammers send e-mail to list addresses (which gets caught in pending requests) as well as to the -admin address for the same lists. It is usually the mail addressed to the -admin address that is being sent on directly to the list admins. Rootsweb does not filter this mail in any way. It would be really great if they did, but they don't. Your -admin address was most likely either in the "To", "CC" or "BCC" lines of the spam e-mail you are receiving. Just delete and ignore it. Pay attention to any instructions from Joan Young on how to handle it with your aol account; those accounts have special rules in place regarding mail deleted from spam folders or reported as spam. -- Mary On 4/13/2012 1:17 AM, jowerslh@aol.com wrote: > I know now from previous posts to NOT forward a suspicious spam e-mail to the list. In today's mail I received an e-mail: > FROM: support@rootsweb.com RE: Wire Transfer Confirmation (FED 96091RT455) > > This is the first one received seemingly from "rootsweb." To me this seems to be an obvious spam message. It seems like lately a lot of spam type messages have be coming via my AOL [especially] mail account. They are often some type of "confirmation" type subject for an order, subscription, delivery notice ostensibly from UPS, etc. I have been deleting a lot of these. Has anyone else noticed these in their messages in general or are there just more not being caught by AOL? I have also received a good many similar, obvious spam messages to my rootsweb list that I just delete. They are obviously not 'subscribe' mails or genealogy posts - it seems like a lot of them coming to my one small list. Often they are similar to the above message line. > > What I can do& I think safely do is post the 'message source' information. I did not want to do that before asking though. Would that information be helpful to know why this e-mail came through? > I would appreciate any helpful responses to this request. As a newbie list owner I had some hesitation about posting this from reading some other responses that really slam posters for their 'ignorance.' I admit to not knowing that much yet but I am trying to 'lurk& learn.' > > To bed now, I'll check my mail tomorrow. Thank you, > Linda Jowers > NCScots list

I know now from previous posts to NOT forward a suspicious spam e-mail to the list. In today's mail I received an e-mail: FROM: support@rootsweb.com RE: Wire Transfer Confirmation (FED 96091RT455) This is the first one received seemingly from "rootsweb." To me this seems to be an obvious spam message. It seems like lately a lot of spam type messages have be coming via my AOL [especially] mail account. They are often some type of "confirmation" type subject for an order, subscription, delivery notice ostensibly from UPS, etc. I have been deleting a lot of these. Has anyone else noticed these in their messages in general or are there just more not being caught by AOL? I have also received a good many similar, obvious spam messages to my rootsweb list that I just delete. They are obviously not 'subscribe' mails or genealogy posts - it seems like a lot of them coming to my one small list. Often they are similar to the above message line. What I can do & I think safely do is post the 'message source' information. I did not want to do that before asking though. Would that information be helpful to know why this e-mail came through? I would appreciate any helpful responses to this request. As a newbie list owner I had some hesitation about posting this from reading some other responses that really slam posters for their 'ignorance.' I admit to not knowing that much yet but I am trying to 'lurk & learn.' To bed now, I'll check my mail tomorrow. Thank you, Linda Jowers NCScots list

I believe ADOPTABLE lists all are given a temporary password when adopted out and the new admin is instructed to change it to one of their choosing...if they didn't do it maybe many passwords could all be the temp one. BUT that doesn't explain why it worked on a list once but not again on the same list which I THINK was stated earlier? Joan In a message dated 4/11/2012 2:31:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, popsjackson@charter.net writes: That is a possibility. I had not thought of that. From: Paul L LeBlanc [mailto:pleblan@aim.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:18 AM To: popsjackson@charter.net Cc: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] A question for Jim Re: Scary glitch in system Could it have the password many listowners use when we transfer lists among ourselves. I have had two or three people use the same one. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is a possibility. I had not thought of that. From: Paul L LeBlanc [mailto:pleblan@aim.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:18 AM To: popsjackson@charter.net Cc: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] A question for Jim Re: Scary glitch in system Could it have the password many listowners use when we transfer lists among ourselves. I have had two or three people use the same one.

Jim Jackson wrote: > Success again with BURTCH - also adoptable and lists9. I tried with the BURTCH list and ended up at the "List Administrator Password" prompt again and it wouldn't let me in. > This is quite strange. Very strange indeed. The remote possibility that your admin password happens to match that of the other lists could be the cause, but I would have thought that would be highly unlikely. I did check that a blank password didn't work too. Good luck with working this out with RootsWeb staff. It might take some in-depth investigation on their part. One good thing to come out of this is there is now one fewer lists waiting for adoption :-) Cheers Elmo.