Folks: It's OK to change the subject line -- for example to correct a misspelling so people can filter or search by Subject. Really, it is. As I have done in this case, changing Ancest*ry.com (which tried to make a simple point) to Ancestry.com. I understand *typos*, but replies don't have to *repeat* the mistake. I'll not belabor this point further. Darrell

Now this *is* more interesting :-) <http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/worlds-largest-genealogy-website-moves-to-dublin-3161152.html> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/07/2012 23:34, Darrell A. Martin wrote: > *SIGH* > > There is only one "e" in "Ancestry". > > Yes, I know it is not the end of the world. No, I am not offended -- > well, maybe a tiny bit annoyed -- but if I do a search in the archives > for "ancestry.com" guess what message thread I WON'T find? > > Darrell

I have recently begun to receive a ton of messages to the admin address for many of my lists. Has this happened to anyone else? It appears to be messages sent to several lists at one time and of course is advertising. Does anyone know how to stop it? Thanks, JanB

P.S. The onslaught of email address hijacking is a lesson to all of us to create stronger passwords. Google on the topic to learn how.

Diana is right! Good Strong Passwords! My sister had given her data to a we-gonna close your account email and DUMB me I used her name as my password. They had my account in minutes. Use upper /lower case letters, symbols and numbers.. never make a word, or saying..... NEVER use the same password on more then one account. I now keep a little black book with all my different passwords and change the password often.... I don't use OE, I go online to my account and read the email there, I do not store emails on my computer ....Free Hotmail has NO tech support... Paid for Hotmail accounts do... Back to original message... Do something to stop the SPAM... at least moderate immediately... Nelda > From: DianaGM@dgmweb.net > To: > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 10:29:41 -0400 > Subject: Re: [LO] Confirmation of removal request ignored > > P.S. The onslaught of email address hijacking is a lesson to all of > us to create stronger passwords. Google on the topic to learn how. > Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. ~~~~~~~~ My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us My Business: http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz With lists to the blogs.

Go to your list archive and pick up the URL to the message, then enter it on this page: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/remove Diana > From: Sonny O'Haver > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:18 AM > > Can someone tell me how to delete a post in the archives. One > members email sent spam (they did not know it did). I would like to > delete it out of the archives

I agree that moderation is the best action; I see no reason to unsub the person. I then email them, drawing their attention to the fact that their account appears hijacked. I suggest they change their password, and that usually solves the problem - or at least is has in all cases, so far. In that same email, I let them know I'm putting in a Removal request for the offending message, asking them to confirm the removal when they get the confirmation request. I don't see any reason to make extra work for the HelpDesk by asking them to do it, unless the subscriber fails to confirm the removal, which has yet to happen. Actually, I've been told that if a Removal requests sits a few days without being confirmed, the staff will take a look at the message and go ahead and remove it if they see any reason to do so, which they obviously would do with SPAM. Diana > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:58 PM > > I actually prefer moderating the person rather than unsubbing them. > Staff > will globally unsub them if they feel it is necessary after you > report the > spam to them and initiate archives removal. If I moderate the > person I can > stop them from posting but if I unsub them and they have no clue > why they > got unsubbed (and even if you let them know they may not read the > email), > they will probably just resubscribe and then the spam can start up > all over > again...they won't be moderated unless or until you manually check > off the > box again...allowing for a time lapse when new spam can hit the > list from the > same person. > > Joan

Just in!!! http://britishgenes.blogspot.com/2012/07/major-news-ancestrycom-to-move-to.html Ancestry is denying the rumor! On 7/7/2012 9:16 AM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > The article practically disappeared. Did a search, found all other sites > linked to this one. > > The question now being asked - is it for real or a plant to distract? > > David

On 7/7/2012 7:47 AM, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > I agree that moderation is the best action; I see no reason to unsub > the person. > > I then email them, drawing their attention to the fact that their > account appears hijacked. I suggest they change their password, and > that usually solves the problem - or at least is has in all cases, so > far. Tried that approach and it didn't work most of cases. Unsub sure got their attention much faster. David, 20 plus lists

Can someone tell me how to delete a post in the archives. One members email sent spam (they did not know it did). I would like to delete it out of the archives

The article practically disappeared. Did a search, found all other sites linked to this one. The question now being asked - is it for real or a plant to distract? David On 7/7/2012 4:04 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Now this *is* more interesting :-) > > <http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/worlds-largest-genealogy-website-moves-to-dublin-3161152.html> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 06/07/2012 23:34, Darrell A. Martin wrote: >> *SIGH* >> >> There is only one "e" in "Ancestry". >> >> Yes, I know it is not the end of the world. No, I am not offended -- >> well, maybe a tiny bit annoyed -- but if I do a search in the archives >> for "ancestry.com" guess what message thread I WON'T find? >> >> Darrell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For a more universal answer, use hotmail hijack in google or yahoo and you will get many hits on problems with ( hot mail ). Looks like some other mail would be better to change to since this is such a wide spread disease. I have had a few members using HotMail and had to get gmail just to write to me about being hi jacked and could not access their account. So far since the conception of G mail and using OE for pop, I have been lucky I guess. But I know what Nelda posted is not uncommon. Its hair raising to say the least. As for saving any thing on the web in mail accounts, those messages could be pop to your PC and saved in the HD as well as leaving a copy on the server, thats what I do with G mail. Its saved to my external HD in a folder store off the C drive and not in the OE environment, you can do this simple enough with thunderbird or what ever. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Megan Zurawicz" <listpig@earthlink.net> To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [LO] Confirmation of removal request ignored > On 7/6/2012 17:26, Nelda Percival wrote: >> >> Mary, >> On changing the password, you can't as they already have changed your >> password, the password question and answer..and the contact data. >> >> You see I was hi-jacked .. I had to have tech support delete the the new >> question they had submitted, disconnect the mobile contact to their cell >> number and the Question / answers, we did this five times before the >> hi-jackers gave up. In the mean time, they discarded my entire contact >> list, my folders of old messages from 10years of keeping them.. and all >> the important data I had stored in my "Paid for HOT MAIL ACCOUNT". >> >> Your message never gets to the member, because the email account forwards >> to the hi-jackers...not the member, the hijackers read the messages you >> send out. >> ...I KNOW.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT...Nelda > > Nelda: this does not seem to be a universal truth; Gerhard and I have > also seen cases where the subscriber (after a global unsub due to hacked > email account) got all the unsub notices. So a more universal answer > may be that it's worth sending the email (after moderating and/or > unsubbing the address), but be aware that the subscriber MAY or MAY NOT > see what you send. > > --pig > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ps. now the thread can also be found in the archive. sigh gone to my chores. Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan JM" <mygenrw2@gmail.com> To: "'Listowners List Posting'" <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [LO] Ancestry.com for sale > Am pretty careful about spelling, > but that print on the cell phone is a bit small and I missed the extra "e" > but the point and understanding of the original intended message was there > and it was * not * misspelled in the link > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-05/ancestry-com-said-to-work-with-qatalyst-partners-to-find-buyers.html > How ever Mo', in OE, if you add the brackets <> on the ends when you hit > return, they are removed from sight. As in this message the brackets ( > were used ) . > If your using web mail or some other mail client they might not be > removed. Not all clients use the same programming. I did not use them > with the cell phone, I used copy link. Not all cell phones have the > options for many types off text but "I" could have used them, just did > not, it has not happened before but then when I added it, I had auto sig > turned on, now its off. So no problem on adding the extra Dan there lol. > > > I never seen any one use the "o" except Thomas Rogers on his Rogers CD. > Said he was inventing a new word ;) > As for old news the date in the link is not old. > > As for Ancestry being on the market, no I did not know about it until it > was posted on my group. I dont go around looking to see whats up for sale. > Its just annoying that the people of a system are the last to know they > been sold out. > > So, apart from not being politically correct and using the cell phone in > the sun on a hot day and under my truck installing a drive shaft I was > just looking to see how many others knew what I had just learned. My > apologies once more for my phone texting lol;D > Dan M - double *SIGH!* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> > To: "Darrell A. Martin" <darrellm@sprynet.com> > Cc: "'Listowners List Posting'" <listowners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [LO] Ancest*ry . com for sale > > >> Darrell A. Martin wrote: >>> *SIGH* >>> >>> There is only one "e" in "Ancestry". >> >> and no "o" -- I know someone who insists on spelling it >> Ancestory and complains incessantly about not being able to >> access it. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Am pretty careful about spelling, but that print on the cell phone is a bit small and I missed the extra "e" but the point and understanding of the original intended message was there and it was * not * misspelled in the link http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-05/ancestry-com-said-to-work-with-qatalyst-partners-to-find-buyers.html How ever Mo', in OE, if you add the brackets <> on the ends when you hit return, they are removed from sight. As in this message the brackets ( were used ) . If your using web mail or some other mail client they might not be removed. Not all clients use the same programming. I did not use them with the cell phone, I used copy link. Not all cell phones have the options for many types off text but "I" could have used them, just did not, it has not happened before but then when I added it, I had auto sig turned on, now its off. So no problem on adding the extra Dan there lol. I never seen any one use the "o" except Thomas Rogers on his Rogers CD. Said he was inventing a new word ;) As for old news the date in the link is not old. As for Ancestry being on the market, no I did not know about it until it was posted on my group. I dont go around looking to see whats up for sale. Its just annoying that the people of a system are the last to know they been sold out. So, apart from not being politically correct and using the cell phone in the sun on a hot day and under my truck installing a drive shaft I was just looking to see how many others knew what I had just learned. My apologies once more for my phone texting lol;D Dan M - double *SIGH!* ----- Original Message ----- From: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> To: "Darrell A. Martin" <darrellm@sprynet.com> Cc: "'Listowners List Posting'" <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [LO] Ancest*ry . com for sale > Darrell A. Martin wrote: >> *SIGH* >> >> There is only one "e" in "Ancestry". > > and no "o" -- I know someone who insists on spelling it > Ancestory and complains incessantly about not being able to > access it. > > Cheryl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listowners, Is there a problem with Rootsweb? I have for two days been trying to confirm a removal request from Eng-Somerset list so far nothing has occurred.! The sp-m is still arriving from the infected address -- Regards, TonyM Somersetlad@gmail.com

Darrell A. Martin wrote: > *SIGH* > > There is only one "e" in "Ancestry". and no "o" -- I know someone who insists on spelling it Ancestory and complains incessantly about not being able to access it. Cheryl

LOL! You know I'd NEVER do THAT. <g> Joan In a message dated 7/6/2012 8:18:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nelda_percival@hotmail.com writes: Hi Joan, LOL I like the "You are ASSuming", Your right nothing is absolute... (Makes me wonder what your calling me??) End of my comments... hope it never happens to you.. nelda

do tell!!! I see it all the times, even in person. David S. On 7/6/2012 7:11 PM, singhals wrote: > and no "o" -- I know someone who insists on spelling it > Ancestory and complains incessantly about not being able to > access it.

Hi Joan, LOL I like the "You are ASSuming", Your right nothing is absolute... (Makes me wonder what your calling me??) End of my comments... hope it never happens to you.. nelda

You are ASSuming they won't regain control of the account. that isn't true in many cases. I've had many of these hijacked accounts where all they had to do was change their password and all was right with the world again. I've seen that far more than cases where the account was shut down and rendered inaccessible. Joan In a message dated 7/6/2012 6:51:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nelda_percival@hotmail.com writes: But if the email account of a member has been hi-jacked they no longer have control of the email account. And that was what I was speaking about in this last message - not the spam messages to the mailing list...