famh1story@aol.com wrote: > This could be legit. I have seen a few of the under 25's on twitter for some reason using hrh names Thanks. I gave up on Twitter as a waste of time. Even though I started doing genealogy while I was at college and my dau was even younger, I still don't associate it as being an interest for younger people. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Nivard Ovington wrote: > > The readable names like this are generally sound, its the mixed up > meaningless numbers and letters that are more liable to be spammers > > A quick google of the email address you mention finds she is very likely > to be a genuine person living in Somerset > > I have seen far worse email addresses used, I suspect many people don't > realise that they are visible to others Many thanks. It's a shame to have to be suspicious but better safe than sorry. Yes, I've seen some very dodgy addresses. Thankfully the worst one on any of my lists didn't post often and eventually moved on to another list. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hello I organize family reunions myself. I do make a general announcement that the event will happen, when and where. I also state that further information will only be provided by contacting me personally. I do not post further information to the list, nor would I allow anyone else to do so. I don't think that prices, hotel names, etc., belong on the list. Lee Cognetta On 2/7/2013 12:31 PM, Deloris Williams wrote: > I have a member of one of my lists who is constantly posting messages about > Family Reunions for his family name, which frankly seem to be happening > several times a year. He's posted at various times first with a big > announcement, giving dates, times and places, etc., and follow-up messages > he starts giving prices and hotel accommodations, setting up activities and > all sorts of things to get it organized. I've put him on moderation because > frankly his messages seem more appropriate for a personal email list of his > own rather than to come over a County list, but I have approved 1 or 2 > before. I've got several more messages he's just posted on the subject > again, and I'm reluctant to let them go through. > I want to know if anyone else has had this type of situation, and does > anyone have any opinions on the subject? > > Thanks, > > > Deloris Williams > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Lee and Rob, That's about what I thought, too, but I wanted to be sure that I wasn't just me who felt that way. I think I now know how to handle this. Deloris -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Cognetta" <daycogs@earthlink.net> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:56 AM To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LO] Reunion messages-opinions > Hello > > I organize family reunions myself. I do make a general announcement > that the event will happen, when and where. I also state that further > information will only be provided by contacting me personally. I do not > post further information to the list, nor would I allow anyone else to > do so. > > I don't think that prices, hotel names, etc., belong on the list. > > Lee Cognetta > > > On 2/7/2013 12:31 PM, Deloris Williams wrote: >> I have a member of one of my lists who is constantly posting messages >> about >> Family Reunions for his family name, which frankly seem to be happening >> several times a year. He's posted at various times first with a big >> announcement, giving dates, times and places, etc., and follow-up >> messages >> he starts giving prices and hotel accommodations, setting up activities >> and >> all sorts of things to get it organized. I've put him on moderation >> because >> frankly his messages seem more appropriate for a personal email list of >> his >> own rather than to come over a County list, but I have approved 1 or 2 >> before. I've got several more messages he's just posted on the subject >> again, and I'm reluctant to let them go through. >> I want to know if anyone else has had this type of situation, and does >> anyone have any opinions on the subject? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Deloris Williams >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The readable names like this are generally sound, its the mixed up meaningless numbers and letters that are more liable to be spammers A quick google of the email address you mention finds she is very likely to be a genuine person living in Somerset I have seen far worse email addresses used, I suspect many people don't realise that they are visible to others Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/02/2013 12:43, Charani wrote: > I've had a subscription request to one of my lists from > hrh_princess_hannah@hotmail.co.uk which sounds a little suspicious but > may not be. > > I've done a check in the archives with no results. > > Anyone see this address before? Or just a new researcher with a not > so bright idea for an email address? > > S/he would be put on mod immediately as a precaution if no one has any > issues with him/her. >

I've had a subscription request to one of my lists from hrh_princess_hannah@hotmail.co.uk which sounds a little suspicious but may not be. I've done a check in the archives with no results. Anyone see this address before? Or just a new researcher with a not so bright idea for an email address? S/he would be put on mod immediately as a precaution if no one has any issues with him/her. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

I have a member of one of my lists who is constantly posting messages about Family Reunions for his family name, which frankly seem to be happening several times a year. He's posted at various times first with a big announcement, giving dates, times and places, etc., and follow-up messages he starts giving prices and hotel accommodations, setting up activities and all sorts of things to get it organized. I've put him on moderation because frankly his messages seem more appropriate for a personal email list of his own rather than to come over a County list, but I have approved 1 or 2 before. I've got several more messages he's just posted on the subject again, and I'm reluctant to let them go through. I want to know if anyone else has had this type of situation, and does anyone have any opinions on the subject? Thanks, Deloris Williams

As a general rule, I put all new subscribers on moderation until they at least post a couple of legitimate messages. The address looks genuine, but even if it isn't, putting it on moderation is the thing to do anyway. Deloris Williams -------------------------------------------------- From: "Charani" <charani.b@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:43 AM To: <LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] An iffy address > I've had a subscription request to one of my lists from > hrh_princess_hannah@hotmail.co.uk which sounds a little suspicious but > may not be. > > I've done a check in the archives with no results. > > Anyone see this address before? Or just a new researcher with a not > so bright idea for an email address? > > S/he would be put on mod immediately as a precaution if no one has any > issues with him/her. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You’re very welcome. Marilyn From: Charani Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:27 AM To: M Nickless Cc: Listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] An iffy address M Nickless wrote: > I did a Google search and found this email address associated with > a young woman who has a site called “Princess Poetry”. > http://princesspoetry.webs.com/ Her “contact me” link even > lists a postal address. Seems safe, but I’d moderate if in > doubt. Many thanks. Concensus is she's OK. I'll see how she posts. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Charani, I did a Google search and found this email address associated with a young woman who has a site called “Princess Poetry”. http://princesspoetry.webs.com/ Her “contact me” link even lists a postal address. Seems safe, but I’d moderate if in doubt. Marilyn From: Charani Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:43 AM To: LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] An iffy address I've had a subscription request to one of my lists from hrh_princess_hannah@hotmail.co.uk which sounds a little suspicious but may not be. I've done a check in the archives with no results. Anyone see this address before? Or just a new researcher with a not so bright idea for an email address? S/he would be put on mod immediately as a precaution if no one has any issues with him/her. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbraseb@wmconnect.com wrote: >I am the admin. I am sending the message to the list itself at >rootsweb.com from my admin address. > >I complete the form in it's entirely but at the bottom, it says "contine". >I click on that but nothing happens. > >I must not be explaining this properly.</HTML> You seem to have two issues here. The first is that you say you cannot post to the list without getting a return message that the address does not exist. The question is what address does not exist? Also from what address are your posting to the list? The second issue is that of attempting to contact the Helpdesk. I can't suggest there. Lee Hoffman/KY TMG Tips: <http://www.tmgtips.com> My website: <http://www.tmgtips.com/lhoffman> A user of the best genealogy program, The Master Genealogist (TMG)

The HelpDesk form has a box that asks if your question has been answered or not and if not click CONTINUE...to submit your request to the HelpDesk. Did you click the CONTINUE button? So you are sending a message TO the list and it isn't posting and you checked your admin page to be sure your address is correctly subbed to the list? Do you get a bounce notice? If so, show us what it says (as Lainee mentioned earlier). Thanks! Joan In a message dated 2/4/2013 5:34:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbraseb@wmconnect.com writes: In a message dated 2/4/2013 1:09:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: > To enlarge upon this: are you writing to the listname-admin@rootsweb.com > address (replacing 'listname' with the actual name of the list) or are you > writing a personal email address (since you seem familiar with this admin? > If you are having issues with the listname-admin address you need to > contact the HelpDesk...what steps are you taking in completing the form that > won't 'complete' for you? Sounds like you are not including all the info you > need to in order to submit the request. I am the admin. I am sending the message to the list itself at rootsweb.com from my admin address. I complete the form in it's entirely but at the bottom, it says "contine". I click on that but nothing happens. I must not be explaining this properly.

In a message dated 2/4/2013 1:09:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: > To enlarge upon this: are you writing to the listname-admin@rootsweb.com > address (replacing 'listname' with the actual name of the list) or are you > writing a personal email address (since you seem familiar with this admin? > If you are having issues with the listname-admin address you need to > contact the HelpDesk...what steps are you taking in completing the form that > won't 'complete' for you? Sounds like you are not including all the info you > need to in order to submit the request. I am the admin. I am sending the message to the list itself at rootsweb.com from my admin address. I complete the form in it's entirely but at the bottom, it says "contine". I click on that but nothing happens. I must not be explaining this properly.</HTML>

What Lainee said: what address are you writing to? To enlarge upon this: are you writing to the listname-admin@rootsweb.com address (replacing 'listname' with the actual name of the list) or are you writing a personal email address (since you seem familiar with this admin? If you are having issues with the listname-admin address you need to contact the HelpDesk...what steps are you taking in completing the form that won't 'complete' for you? Sounds like you are not including all the info you need to in order to submit the request. Joan In a message dated 2/4/2013 3:39:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Barbraseb@wmconnect.com writes: For about a week, I have been unable to send email to a list I administer. They are returned to me saying, "User does not exist". I have been using the same address for years. I am able to send email to other addresses. I tried contacting HelpDesk, got to the form one fills out, but it would not "continue". Anyone have ideas/suggestions? Thanks.

For about a week, I have been unable to send email to a list I administer. They are returned to me saying, "User does not exist". I have been using the same address for years. I am able to send email to other addresses. I tried contacting HelpDesk, got to the form one fills out, but it would not "continue". Anyone have ideas/suggestions? Thanks.</HTML>

What list and address are you using? Can you send a copy of the headers for the email that you get back? Lainee -----Original Message----- From: Barbraseb@wmconnect.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:35 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Email problems For about a week, I have been unable to send email to a list I administer. They are returned to me saying, "User does not exist". I have been using the same address for years. I am able to send email to other addresses. I tried contacting HelpDesk, got to the form one fills out, but it would not "continue". Anyone have ideas/suggestions? Thanks.

On 2/2/2013 21:41, Mary Richardson wrote: > Dear Joan, > > This is a followup to the Listowners thread that I started earlier this > week > <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Listowners/2013-01/1359419488>. > After I got flamed, I promised to keep this offline. I will only post > this followup if you or Pig want me to. If you have reason to believe something is actually *broken* with your list, then there's no point in pursuing the issue on the LO list - your fellow admins cannot fix or even test anything for breaks. That's the point at which you want to head for either HelpDesk or listmaster@rootsweb.com directly. They have the power to look and see if something's gone awry....we don't. Thanks! :) --pig

Quite correct Joan, but see the following which I found "AVG FREE Anti-virus 2011 or 2012 are just fine. You do not have a vulnerability with AVG since it will scan any file BEFORE ANY program on your computer can load or read it. What you are over looking is that zip files are compressed. Because they are compressed it is impossible for any anti-virus program to detect virus's contained in them since the data in the files are UN-intelligible. By un-zipping a zip file, all of the files contained in it will be extracted and decompressed and written to disk as individual files. Only then can an a-v program scan them for virus's. The un-zip process itself is not in any danger from any virus's that might be contained in the zip file. By design, AVG a-v FREE always scans files at the time that any program does the open function, before the program itself actually reads the file. That is how all real-time anti-virus programs work. So you are perfectly safe already." Tom On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:48:50 -0500 (EST), JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: >I don't know about Norton but I'm pretty sure most (if not all) AV software > can't scan a ZIP file for a virus. As Darrell said...why would ANY admin >open an attachment in a message that comes to your admin address knowing >that admin mail is NOT screened for viruses? Ask yourself: why would ANYONE be >sending you a FILE attachment of ANY sort to your admin address? Also ask >yourself if the address "administrator @ rootsweb" sounds like an official >RootsWeb address you have ever heard of or from which you have ever >received mail. RootsWeb staff addresses would be a person's name or listmaster, >etc. @rootsweb.com. > >Joan > > >In a message dated 1/31/2013 11:56:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >darrellm@sprynet.com writes: > >On 1/31/2013 10:28 AM, Larry M. Weatherly wrote: >> >> I may be the only fortunate (NOT) one to have received an email >> addressed to one of my Iowa lists - though from the cc list I suspect >> that there are others out there. >> >> This email is from: Administrator - and has headers as follows: >>> Subject: FW: Company 2013 Report >>> >>> Signature: Digitally signed by administrator@rootsweb.com >>> File Validity: 01/31/2013 >>> Company : http://rootsweb.com >>> File Format: Office - Excel >>> Internal Name: Company Report >>> Legal Copyright: ) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. >>> Original Filename: 2013 Report.xls >> >> Since it appeared suspicious to me I scanned the zip file with Norton >> and did not receive any errors. However, as soon as I initiated an >> unzip Norton jumped in and deleted the z.bot virus in the attachment. >> >> So - if it appears in your inbox - you know what to do! >> >> Be well and at peace! >> Larry > >Larry: > >Why in the world did you ever try to open the .zip file? You had more >than adequate evidence that this was not a legitimate message. >Everything about it screams, "Go back! It's a trap!!" Doing anything >besides deleting the whole thing, UNOPENED, was like testing to see if >there are rattlesnakes in your sleeping bag by crawling in. > >It was only by good fortune that you got away cheaply. If Norton had not >yet been updated to recognize that version of z.bot, then your computer >would be in a world of hurt. > >Not that I have an opinion, or anything. > >Darrell > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject >and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rather than reply to individual posts I will post a general comment and let it be. Granted I knew the zip file was a high risk option. However, I am also rather confident in my ability to recognize and react to all but the most sophisticated malware afflictons. Among those precautions would be an immediate and complete Windows 7 system store. Additionally, opening the file in Sandboxie generally preempts any infestation of the primary system. I realize that not everyone knows I have an extensive computer background. As someone posted either on this or another list - I was working on computers in 1969. Well, I am not sure that I can make that claim. I can attest to more than a decade managing information technology operations. In the time period I guided a telecommunications holding firm IT through the madness that was the break-up of AT&T. An exhilarating time and never a dull nanosecond ;-) In closing - why did I open it? I was curious and because I could. I know that worst case I would have to spend a day restoring my system from ongoing backups. Finally, I wanted to make sure that there indeed was a wolf in the henhouse before I cried "WOLF". Snopes is full of instances where there was no fact checking.. Be well and at peace.

On 1/31/2013 6:08 PM, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, Tom...and I suspect that is exactly what Norton did in this > case...got rid of the virus as soon as the files were unzipped. > > Joan Joan: That seems pretty clear. Any antivirus program worth using would do the same, *provided* that the included virus is not so new that the program has not yet been updated to handle it. Normally, that situation is a very rare occurrence. To be bitten by it would be simple bad luck. But what reward is there for taking the risk? It is like betting $100 on something, knowing that you will win 999 times out of 1,000; but if you win, you only get your $100 back. Listowners need to understand that by virtue of their accepting the position, they will be exposed to certain *potential* dangers. Simple caution, such as NEVER opening a file attached to a message sent to the -admin address, is enough to make those dangers all but disappear. Darrell