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    1. Re: [LO] suspicious subscriberClan Scott List Administrator<listadmin@clanscottsociety.org>;
    2. W David Samuelsen
    3. Neault/Nault is a rarity, only in Quebec and northern states and he's there. David Samuelsen On 7/11/2013 2:59 PM, Deloris Williams wrote: > David, > OMG, I thought it was me perhaps not remembering or something. > I've had that very same email address subscribe to several of my lists, and > then it would get unsubbed later that same day, or in a relatively short > period of time. On several occasions, the address re-subs to the same list > that he's just unsubbed from, and I was thinking at first, well maybe this > person had been unsubbed by RW because they do that when an address has been > spamming the lists. I've got surnames and county lists that it's been > happening to, but it seems far too strange that this person would be doing > that. I put the address on moderation, though, to see if anything is being > posted by it, but so far, all I'm seeing is a lot of subbing and unsubbing > on several lists. > > > Deloris Williams > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Clan Scott List Administrator" <listadmin@clanscottsociety.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:09 PM > To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LO] suspicious subscriber > >> I may be over-reacting but I'd rather err on the side of caution: >> >> Over the last month I have had several subscriber requests from >> tyronealcon@gmail.com (Tyrone Alcon) to unrelated and diverse surname >> lists. They have occurred one at a time and rarely on the same >> day. Unless this individual has a rather unusual family tree or is a >> long-lost cousin, I doubt someone would have interest in the surname >> lists he's been requesting subscription. I have also done a search >> and found his name "welcomed" by at least three other list administrators. >> >> Perhaps I'm thinking the worst of people but after a couple of these >> subscription requests, I put him on moderation. I encourage other >> list administrators to take the same defensive action for this >> individual (and any other suspicious new subscribers) until it can be >> confirmed Mr Alcon is legitimate. >> >> So far, he has not posted anything on my lists but I fear he may be >> setting himself up as a spammer. I don't recall anything quite like >> this happening in the twenty years I have been a Rootsweb surname >> list administrator. It is better to be cautious than to have to >> deal with a mess! >> >> >> David Scott >> Surname List Administrator for: >> * Pardo * Lambremont * Balwearie * Buccleuch * Buckalew * Bucklew * >> Harden * Laidlaw * Langlands * Scott * Clan Scott * >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/11/2013 10:41:15
    1. Re: [LO] suspicious subscriberClan Scott List Administrator<listadmin@clanscottsociety.org>;
    2. Deloris Williams
    3. David, OMG, I thought it was me perhaps not remembering or something. I've had that very same email address subscribe to several of my lists, and then it would get unsubbed later that same day, or in a relatively short period of time. On several occasions, the address re-subs to the same list that he's just unsubbed from, and I was thinking at first, well maybe this person had been unsubbed by RW because they do that when an address has been spamming the lists. I've got surnames and county lists that it's been happening to, but it seems far too strange that this person would be doing that. I put the address on moderation, though, to see if anything is being posted by it, but so far, all I'm seeing is a lot of subbing and unsubbing on several lists. Deloris Williams -------------------------------------------------- From: "Clan Scott List Administrator" <listadmin@clanscottsociety.org> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:09 PM To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] suspicious subscriber > I may be over-reacting but I'd rather err on the side of caution: > > Over the last month I have had several subscriber requests from > tyronealcon@gmail.com (Tyrone Alcon) to unrelated and diverse surname > lists. They have occurred one at a time and rarely on the same > day. Unless this individual has a rather unusual family tree or is a > long-lost cousin, I doubt someone would have interest in the surname > lists he's been requesting subscription. I have also done a search > and found his name "welcomed" by at least three other list administrators. > > Perhaps I'm thinking the worst of people but after a couple of these > subscription requests, I put him on moderation. I encourage other > list administrators to take the same defensive action for this > individual (and any other suspicious new subscribers) until it can be > confirmed Mr Alcon is legitimate. > > So far, he has not posted anything on my lists but I fear he may be > setting himself up as a spammer. I don't recall anything quite like > this happening in the twenty years I have been a Rootsweb surname > list administrator. It is better to be cautious than to have to > deal with a mess! > > > David Scott > Surname List Administrator for: > * Pardo * Lambremont * Balwearie * Buccleuch * Buckalew * Bucklew * > Harden * Laidlaw * Langlands * Scott * Clan Scott * >

    07/11/2013 09:59:10
    1. Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber
    2. Paul L LeBlanc
    3. I asked Gerhard about him months ago when he subed to about two dozen in a week. Right now he is at over 200 of mine. Gerhard said as long as he did not break any rules we had to sub him. I ever emailed him and offered to sub him to the rest of my lists. I am still getting 4 or 5 a week.

    07/11/2013 09:19:49
    1. Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber
    2. Kathie Harrison
    3. Paranoid? You can moderate until he posts but that may not happen. You could ask your list members to post new queries to see if he responds or otherwise contributes something new to your lists. But why look for a boogeyman when he may be interested but likes to just read posts. I am on lists that I rarely post to but that doesn't make me a would be spammer. You can also post some interesting material and see if it jump starts your lists and also make a special note asking new subscribers to post something. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM, M Nickless <unicorn1950@comcast.net> wrote: > I only admin one very slow list, and noticed this address subscribed a > few weeks ago. So far nothing has been posted. > > > > From: Paul L LeBlanc > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:19 PM > To: listowners@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber > > > I asked Gerhard about him months ago when he subed to about two dozen in a > week. Right now he is at over 200 of mine. > > Gerhard said as long as he did not break any rules we had to sub him. > > I ever emailed him and offered to sub him to the rest of my lists. I am > still getting 4 or 5 a week. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~~~~~ Take care, Kathie Harrison Lancaster Co., NEGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nelancas/

    07/11/2013 08:53:28
    1. [LO] suspicious subscriber
    2. Clan Scott List Administrator
    3. I may be over-reacting but I'd rather err on the side of caution: Over the last month I have had several subscriber requests from tyronealcon@gmail.com (Tyrone Alcon) to unrelated and diverse surname lists. They have occurred one at a time and rarely on the same day. Unless this individual has a rather unusual family tree or is a long-lost cousin, I doubt someone would have interest in the surname lists he's been requesting subscription. I have also done a search and found his name "welcomed" by at least three other list administrators. Perhaps I'm thinking the worst of people but after a couple of these subscription requests, I put him on moderation. I encourage other list administrators to take the same defensive action for this individual (and any other suspicious new subscribers) until it can be confirmed Mr Alcon is legitimate. So far, he has not posted anything on my lists but I fear he may be setting himself up as a spammer. I don't recall anything quite like this happening in the twenty years I have been a Rootsweb surname list administrator. It is better to be cautious than to have to deal with a mess! David Scott Surname List Administrator for: * Pardo * Lambremont * Balwearie * Buccleuch * Buckalew * Bucklew * Harden * Laidlaw * Langlands * Scott * Clan Scott *

    07/11/2013 08:09:41
    1. Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber
    2. Tom Caulley
    3.  Thanks for the heads up.  I, too, moderate a slow list.  After your email I checked my membership roster and found him there.  I've put him on moderation as a precautionary measure. Tom ________________________________ From: Kathie Harrison <harrison28@gmail.com> To: M Nickless <unicorn1950@comcast.net> Cc: "listowners@rootsweb.com" <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber Paranoid? You can moderate until he posts but that may not happen. You could ask your list members to post new queries to see if he responds or otherwise contributes something new to your lists. But why look for a boogeyman when he may be interested but likes to just read posts. I am on lists that I rarely post to but that doesn't make me a would be spammer. You can also post some interesting material and see if it jump starts your lists and also make a special note asking new subscribers to post something. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM, M Nickless <unicorn1950@comcast.net> wrote: > I only admin one very slow list, and noticed this address  subscribed a > few weeks ago.  So far nothing has been posted. > > > > From: Paul L LeBlanc > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:19 PM > To: listowners@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber > > > I asked Gerhard about him months ago when he subed to about two dozen in a > week. Right now he is at over 200 of mine. > > Gerhard said as long as  he did not break any rules we had to sub him. > > I ever emailed him and offered to sub him to the rest of my lists. I am > still getting 4 or 5 a week. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~~~~~ Take care, Kathie Harrison Lancaster Co., NEGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nelancas/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/11/2013 07:34:01
    1. Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber
    2. M Nickless
    3. I only admin one very slow list, and noticed this address subscribed a few weeks ago. So far nothing has been posted. From: Paul L LeBlanc Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:19 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber I asked Gerhard about him months ago when he subed to about two dozen in a week. Right now he is at over 200 of mine. Gerhard said as long as he did not break any rules we had to sub him. I ever emailed him and offered to sub him to the rest of my lists. I am still getting 4 or 5 a week. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/11/2013 06:36:01
    1. Re: [LO] Help with bounced email
    2. Wendy Howard
    3. What do the bounce notifications tell you? There should be a reason given in each one. Is your list really quiet, but has had a few posts just recently? If that's the case, then it's likely these addresses have "gone bad" in some way, and the recent posts have triggered the bounce score to reach the threashold set for your list. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Carol Bickel said the following on 28/06/2013 8:57 a.m.: > > I am a listowner and today I received over 70 bounced notifications that list members had been unsubscribed from my list. I have no idea what is going on, but I need help. > Carol

    06/28/2013 01:52:23
    1. Re: [LO] Fwd: Uncaught bounce notification
    2. Johan Dorey-Venter
    3. Thank you Lynne. On 27 June 2013 21:06, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi Johan > > We've all been receiving lots of these. Just delete them. > > Best wishes, > Lynne > > > PS Please don't forward spam to the lists. > > > Johan Dorey-Venter <doreyventer@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >I have been receiving quite a few of these over the last few days. What > >should I do with them? Please help? > > > >Johan. > > > > > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >From: <mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com> > >Date: 27 June 2013 14:55 > >Subject: Uncaught bounce notification > >To: dorey-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > >The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce > >format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted > >from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all > >unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). > > > >For more information see: > >http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/admin/dorey/bounce > > > >

    06/27/2013 03:14:06
    1. [LO] Fwd: Uncaught bounce notification
    2. Johan Dorey-Venter
    3. I have been receiving quite a few of these over the last few days. What should I do with them? Please help? Johan. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com> Date: 27 June 2013 14:55 Subject: Uncaught bounce notification To: dorey-admin@rootsweb.com The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/admin/dorey/bounce ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Work From Home" <WorkFromHome@plsoakletachad.net> To: dorey-bounces@rootsweb.com Cc: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 05:55:09 -0700 Subject: Turn 60 minutes into $379? Hey there, Hope things are going well for you today. I was battling another round of insomnia last night, so I did what I always do - surf the Net and check email. Last Sunday I was casually surfing some local self-employed stories and ran across this brand new internet based job where single moms were earning up to $2700 every week from home. I didn't know whether to believe it or not, but I really had to try anyways & its a good thing too. Cuz I actually made $456.19 on my second day of actually trying. Its actually not hard at all. I've was already paid straight into my bank account...its probably the best thing that's happened to us in years. Click On This To Check It Out<http://www.plsoakletachad.net/1466/91/192/838/1718.11tt63981589AAF1.php> Here's the article... Daily Consumer Tips Studies The Hottest Online Job Opportunities<http://www.plsoakletachad.net/1466/91/192/838/1718.11tt63981589AAF2.php>. I think anyone that's got computer access could easily do this job so that's why I'm sending this to all of our old friends and family. I'd love for you to start & make some good money yourself...also send this e-mail to anyone you know that needs extra cash so we can all bounce back from the current economic disaster... -M _______________________________________________ If you don't want any more correspondance about this offer visit here<http://www.plsoakletachad.net/1466/91/192/838/1718.11tt63981589AAF3.html>or write to: BR LLC. WAHU, PO BOX 441206, Houston, TX 77244-1206 This email was intended for dorey-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://www.plsoakletachad.net/u/1466/838/1718/11/63981589/dorey-bounces@rootsweb.com> he first time, he turned pale.When the time came, neither mom nor son hesitated.My first reaction was [to wonder] if that was my mom or not, and then I saw her eyes, Niko said. I thought, Thank God. Im going to finally get out of here. Im going to be free.These days, Niko is preparing to be home-schooled soon and begin his long reintegration process. He hopes to one day play football on his junior high school team and is grateful to be back in America. His mother is happy, too, though there is the constant fear that Mohamed Atteya will again appear in their lives, tracking down his son and trying once again to drag the boy back to Egypt and force him to live as a strict Muslim.My son told me [it was] to make him a Muslim, Atteya replied when asked why she thought her ex-husband snatched the boy. He said that we lack the morality and the values that their system has. And he said that Americans were so violent, he said we are a rotting society.- Kalliopi 'Kalli' AtteyaKalli Atteya's fears are stoked by the vivid memory of the downward spiral of their marriage that culminated in the cruel betrayal that almost cost her her son.It was in 1999 when Kalliopi "Kalli" Panagos fell hard for Mohamed Atteya. Within a year, they married and moved to nearby Chambersburg. But trouble began shortly after Nikos birth in July of 2000.Three months after our boy was born, he left, Kalli Atteya told FoxNews.com. He moved back to Harrisburg, and he dated e younger Bush.People are perhaps beginning to appreciate that President Bush, for all his Texas swagger, is a gentleman, Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume said.I wish that some of my fellow scholars, particularly historians and law professors and political scientists, would do what academics are supposed to do, which is to bide their time, do the actual research before proclaiming a presidency a failure, said Stephen Knott, a U.S. Naval War College professor and author of a book about Bush. He described the Bush legacy as "unfinished."It takes a long time for documents, for oral history interviews, particularly classified documents, to emerge," Knott said. "And then you get a fuller, more complete picture of a presidency.Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said he wasn't surprised by Bush's rising approval rating.We pummel presidents when theyre in the White House," said Brinkley, whose 2007 book "The Great Deluge" was critical of Bush's handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. "We give them a hard time. Then they leave and they write a memoir that becomes an instant bestseller. Journalists ask softball questions, and then they open up a presidential library. And people forgive a lot of the mistakes and say, Hey, he brought our country through some tough times.'"The toughest time for Americans during Bush's presidency was Sept. 11, 2001, when Al Qaeda hijacked and crashed four airplanes, killing nearly 3,000 Americ

    06/27/2013 02:41:56
    1. Re: [LO] Help with bounced email
    2. Deloris Williams
    3. There was a discussion of this a few days ago on this list. The spammers latest ploy is to send emails directly to the Rootsweb Bounce addresses for each list. This is similar to what they did a few weeks ago when they were sending emails directly to the Request addresses for many lists. Nothing gets through to the lists. They'll get tired of it soon, but in the meanwhile, the thing to do is to just delete the notifications. Deloris Williams -------------------------------------------------- From: "Carol Bickel" <carolbickel@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:57 PM To: <LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] Help with bounced email > > > I am a listowner and today I received over 70 bounced notifications that > list members had been unsubscribed from my list. I have no idea what is > going on, but I need help. > Carol > > > > > > Carol Pridgen Martoccia Bickel > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pridgen/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/27/2013 10:10:24
    1. Re: [LO] Fwd: Uncaught bounce notification
    2. Lynne
    3. Hi Johan We've all been receiving lots of these. Just delete them. Best wishes, Lynne PS Please don't forward spam to the lists. Johan Dorey-Venter <doreyventer@gmail.com> wrote: > >I have been receiving quite a few of these over the last few days. What >should I do with them? Please help? > >Johan. > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: <mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com> >Date: 27 June 2013 14:55 >Subject: Uncaught bounce notification >To: dorey-admin@rootsweb.com > > >The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce >format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted >from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all >unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). > >For more information see: >http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/admin/dorey/bounce >

    06/27/2013 09:06:40
    1. [LO] Help with bounced email
    2. Carol Bickel
    3.  I am a listowner and today I received over 70 bounced notifications that list members had been unsubscribed from my list. I have no idea what is going on, but I need help. Carol    Carol Pridgen Martoccia Bickel http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pridgen/   

    06/27/2013 07:57:46
    1. Re: [LO] A flood of Uncaught Bounce Notices
    2. Charani
    3. Bradford H Miter wrote: > I believe that anything addressed to the list Admin directly is now > considered Spam. In past years I have had ballots for an association that > sponsors the list sent to the admin address (didn't want to use a personal > address) and they came through just fine. But, recently the admin addresses > seem to have been employed by some spammers and I guess that now the 'admin' > address is being reserved for use by the system only and others using it are > considered spam. All ballots so addressed this year came through as > rejected. There could be other reasons why such mails are being rejected. Have a look at the rejection notices to see what they say. I can't see how Rootsweb could stop spam but not genuine mails to the admin address if the spam doesn't use certain trigger words unless there's something in the subject line that's being used to stop them for what could be seen as an "abuse" of the admin address. It's easy enough to get a disposable address (Gmail or Hotmail, both of which are free and can be used with an email client) specifically for the ballots. All four addresses associated with a list are being used by the spammers. Whilst there's money to be made out of spoiling others use of the net, we'll carry on being plagued with the rubbish. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

    06/23/2013 07:59:55
    1. Re: [LO] A flood of Uncaught Bounce Notices
    2. Deloris Williams
    3. What I'm seeing is that the same old spammers ("Stop right now and look right at it!...") are just stupidly sending multiple messages to the Bounce addresses for the lists. It seems those are the latest addresses they have aimed their spam to, just like a few weeks ago where it was to all of the List Request addresses, which got them nowhere. Probably about the only thing to do is to ignore those since they're not getting to the actual lists anyway. Deloris Williams -------------------------------------------------- From: "Charani" <charani.b@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 7:59 AM To: "Bradford H Miter" <bradmiter@earthlink.net>; <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A flood of Uncaught Bounce Notices > Bradford H Miter wrote: >> I believe that anything addressed to the list Admin directly is now >> considered Spam. In past years I have had ballots for an association >> that >> sponsors the list sent to the admin address (didn't want to use a >> personal >> address) and they came through just fine. But, recently the admin >> addresses >> seem to have been employed by some spammers and I guess that now the >> 'admin' >> address is being reserved for use by the system only and others using it >> are >> considered spam. All ballots so addressed this year came through as >> rejected. > > There could be other reasons why such mails are being rejected. Have > a look at the rejection notices to see what they say. I can't see how > Rootsweb could stop spam but not genuine mails to the admin address if > the spam doesn't use certain trigger words unless there's something in > the subject line that's being used to stop them for what could be seen > as an "abuse" of the admin address. > > It's easy enough to get a disposable address (Gmail or Hotmail, both > of which are free and can be used with an email client) specifically > for the ballots. > > All four addresses associated with a list are being used by the > spammers. Whilst there's money to be made out of spoiling others use > of the net, we'll carry on being plagued with the rubbish. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/23/2013 07:09:40
    1. Re: [LO] A flood of Uncaught Bounce Notices
    2. Joe Makowiec
    3. At 6-23-2013 07:37 AM, Bradford H Miter wrote: >I believe that anything addressed to the list Admin directly is now >considered Spam. If by "list Admin" you mean mail sent to the [listname]-admin@rootsweb address, no, it's not being flagged or held up as spam, at least not mail from a non-spammy sender. I just tried it, using an email address of mine which is not my admin address. It came through with no problem.

    06/23/2013 02:49:50
    1. Re: [LO] A flood of Uncaught Bounce Notices
    2. Bradford H Miter
    3. I believe that anything addressed to the list Admin directly is now considered Spam. In past years I have had ballots for an association that sponsors the list sent to the admin address (didn't want to use a personal address) and they came through just fine. But, recently the admin addresses seem to have been employed by some spammers and I guess that now the 'admin' address is being reserved for use by the system only and others using it are considered spam. All ballots so addressed this year came through as rejected. Brad Miter NY-Troy-Irish-Gensoc administrator

    06/23/2013 01:37:40
    1. Re: [LO] A flood of "Uncaught Bounce Notices"
    2. Charani
    3. David E. Cann wrote: > I presume everyone else is also getting flooded with these notices, but I am > getting absolutely flooded with them and they are virtually all spam. I've had the subject added to my filters for quite a while now because I was so fed up with all the spam, mostly in Russian from Russian addresses. I don't even see them any more - and, no, they are NOT marked as spam before anyone says anything! They simply bypass my inbox. I can't see there's anything Rootsweb can do about it. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

    06/22/2013 05:55:06
    1. Re: [LO] A flood of Uncaught Bounce Notices
    2. Scott R. C. Anderson
    3. My Cummins surname list has long been a frequent target of spammers, with Mailman catching perhaps half a dozen on a bad day, while others have moderate amounts or almost none. But in the last few weeks, Cummins has gone through the roof, sometimes catching several score in a day. Apparently the spammers just keep sharing the same addresses with each other, and someone new has no sense of scale. Since I only allow subscribers to send to the list, I just glance at the subjects of the others before flagging them as spam, and click on "Discard all messages marked Defer", but the flagging step has certainly been getting tiresome. Scott On Saturday, June 22, 2013 1:08 PM MT, David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> wrote: >I presume everyone else is also getting flooded with these notices, but I am >getting absolutely flooded with them and they are virtually all spam. I can >only recall one lately that was simply someone writing to the wrong address, >with all of the others checked being spam and leaving me nervous about even >opening it. I've been an Admin long enough to know what they are and how >that type of notice works, but after receiving 65 (about half overnight >alone!) of them on Thursday alone, I have just begun to delete them unopened >at least until the volume diminishes somewhat, but it takes just about all >the restraint that I can muster for me to NOT report them as the spam that >they are (since RW is forwarding them). > >That is my rant for the day, but I sure wish there was some effective means >of stopping or at least slowing them down. This type of spam has been there >for quite awhile, but about a week or ten days ago the volume suddenly went >up by 500% or more to where at times I'm intermittently receiving more of >these than legitimate postings for my lists. I hope it stops soon. Rant >over. . . . :-( > > >David E. Cann >decann@infionline.net

    06/22/2013 01:29:16
    1. Re: [LO] A flood of "Uncaught Bounce Notices"
    2. W David Samuelsen
    3. Good reason, Rootsweb disconnected from sorbs.net because it was blocking legitmate listadmins including me. I prefer this with "uncaught" ones, easy to hit delete button and move on. Bluehost/Hostmaster, host of many genealogy websites, investigated and gave me information - three of spam filters used by sorbs.net are notorious unreliable and uncooperative, two of them require "blackmail" $ to get off their blacklists. W. David Samuelsen On 6/22/2013 1:08 PM, David E. Cann wrote: > I presume everyone else is also getting flooded with these notices, but I am > getting absolutely flooded with them and they are virtually all spam. I can > only recall one lately that was simply someone writing to the wrong address, > with all of the others checked being spam and leaving me nervous about even > opening it. I've been an Admin long enough to know what they are and how > that type of notice works, but after receiving 65 (about half overnight > alone!) of them on Thursday alone, I have just begun to delete them unopened > at least until the volume diminishes somewhat, but it takes just about all > the restraint that I can muster for me to NOT report them as the spam that > they are (since RW is forwarding them). > > That is my rant for the day, but I sure wish there was some effective means > of stopping or at least slowing them down. This type of spam has been there > for quite awhile, but about a week or ten days ago the volume suddenly went > up by 500% or more to where at times I'm intermittently receiving more of > these than legitimate postings for my lists. I hope it stops soon. Rant > over. . . . :-( > > > David E. Cann > decann@infionline.net > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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