He or she is back. 385 already. David Samuelsen

I know when people email me and ask me to resubscribe them I explain it is easier for them to resub themselves as I am human and subject to typing errors. If you send in the subscription it reads it from your email and you are much more likely to get resubbed correctly. Lainee -----Original Message----- From: Barbara & George Grenier Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:13 AM To: listowners Subject: [LO] list admin Hi all <snip> Since I send in lots of stuff, an admin should know me and resub me but that doesn't happen. Barbara

I found this on Google when I googled alcon tyrone (other results referred to Tyrone, GA and jobs with Alcon research in Atlanta). ***Tyrone Alcon* : Family Histories Ancestry + Genealogy Details<http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=48&ved=0CFEQFjAHOCg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fancestry.lookupthe.name%2Fnames%2FTyrone-Alcon.php&ei=lyDkUbKJM43DiwKA1ICYDg&usg=AFQjCNEHs-TS4UtnUaI3pydQ590--p63lw&bvm=bv.48705608,d.cGE> ancestry.lookupthe.name/names/*Tyrone*-*Alcon*.php‎ *Tyrone Alcon* ancestry family history and genealogy related information. Some data may include *Tyrone Alcon* schools, education, work history, family, *...* Maybe this is what he/she is all about. I think I will removed him/her from moderation now. Marge On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:00 AM, <listowners-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Suspicious Subscriber (Bradford H Miter) > 2. Re: Suspicious Subscriber (Drew Smith) > 3. Re: Suspicious Subscriber (Gerald Tobin) > 4. list admin (Barbara & George Grenier) > 5. Re: list admin (JYoung6180@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:10:41 -0400 > From: "Bradford H Miter" <bradmiter@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [LO] Suspicious Subscriber > To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004001ce80ce$377fbe20$a67f3a60$@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm with David Naylor from an earlier post. If I wanted to build up a > massive list of 'Good Email Addresses', this collection from posted > messages > to a all the lists he is subscribed to is an excellent ploy. Verified > address lists have commercial value!! > > Brad Miter > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:15:51 -0400 > From: Drew Smith <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LO] Suspicious Subscriber > To: listowners <Listowners@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CALSepZZohQPDrj+cj07wuV2odUwUQ= > JDLaen_vVWqctDn8J-Sw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Personally, I don't see the point. It would be far easier just to run > a program that scours the list archive to get the addresses. > > Drew Smith > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Bradford H Miter > <bradmiter@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I'm with David Naylor from an earlier post. If I wanted to build up a > > massive list of 'Good Email Addresses', this collection from posted > messages > > to a all the lists he is subscribed to is an excellent ploy. Verified > > address lists have commercial value!! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:27:25 -0400 > From: Gerald Tobin <tobinger@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [LO] Suspicious Subscriber > To: listowners <Listowners@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <CBD7D524-614B-431B-9282-554A75C9662B@frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:26 PM, tobinger32@gmail.com wrote: > > > That were my thoughts as well. > > > > Jerry > > On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Drew Smith <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Personally, I don't see the point. It would be far easier just to run > >> a program that scours the list archive to get the addresses. > >> > >> Drew Smith > >> > >> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Bradford H Miter > >> <bradmiter@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>> I'm with David Naylor from an earlier post. If I wanted to build up a > >>> massive list of 'Good Email Addresses', this collection from posted > messages > >>> to a all the lists he is subscribed to is an excellent ploy. Verified > >>> address lists have commercial value!! > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:24:18 -0700 > From: Barbara & George Grenier <grenier@earthlink.net> > Subject: [LO] list admin > To: listowners <Listowners@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E1UyWaX-0004Lt-EF@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > How can I find out who a list admin is? Don't say write to > them. It's OHPERRY Perry Co OH > > Barbara > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:38:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > Subject: Re: [LO] list admin > To: grenier@earthlink.net, Listowners@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <70af1.7ad4f6b8.3f14ac98@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Barbara- > > Okay...we can't answer you then if you say "don't say write to them" > because that is the only way to know. Write to: OHPERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. If > you don't get a response to a legit question or issue you wish to take up > with the admin then contact the HelpDesk or Listmaster@rootsweb.com > > Joan > > > In a message dated 7/14/2013 8:27:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > grenier@earthlink.net writes: > > How can I find out who a list admin is? Don't say write to > them. It's OHPERRY Perry Co OH > > Barbara > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the LISTOWNERS list administrator, send an email to > LISTOWNERS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the LISTOWNERS mailing list, send an email to > LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 94 > ***************************************** > -- Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare

Hi all Thanks for the suggestions. I see just responding does not go to the list. Guess I should be awake before using-anything. Searching the archives found a list admin mention in 2004 or person I found to be admin in 2000. In 2005 everyone was trying to find her including Rootsweb and that is as far as I got. Her website went belly also. Actually I do remember the emails. I'm going to write to Rootsweb and ask if there is an administrator, not who just is there one. The list runs along pretty well on its own if there isn't one. But Rootsweb and Earthlink fight once in awhile (twice this year) and I get bounced. Since I send in lots of stuff, an admin should know me and resub me but that doesn't happen. Barbara How can I find out who a list admin is? Don't say write to them. It's OHPERRY Perry Co OH Barbara

Barbara- Okay...we can't answer you then if you say "don't say write to them" because that is the only way to know. Write to: OHPERRY-admin@rootsweb.com . If you don't get a response to a legit question or issue you wish to take up with the admin then contact the HelpDesk or Listmaster@rootsweb.com Joan In a message dated 7/14/2013 8:27:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, grenier@earthlink.net writes: How can I find out who a list admin is? Don't say write to them. It's OHPERRY Perry Co OH Barbara

How can I find out who a list admin is? Don't say write to them. It's OHPERRY Perry Co OH Barbara

On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:26 PM, tobinger32@gmail.com wrote: > That were my thoughts as well. > > Jerry > On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Drew Smith <drewsmithtpa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Personally, I don't see the point. It would be far easier just to run >> a program that scours the list archive to get the addresses. >> >> Drew Smith >> >> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Bradford H Miter >> <bradmiter@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> I'm with David Naylor from an earlier post. If I wanted to build up a >>> massive list of 'Good Email Addresses', this collection from posted messages >>> to a all the lists he is subscribed to is an excellent ploy. Verified >>> address lists have commercial value!! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Personally, I don't see the point. It would be far easier just to run a program that scours the list archive to get the addresses. Drew Smith On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Bradford H Miter <bradmiter@earthlink.net> wrote: > I'm with David Naylor from an earlier post. If I wanted to build up a > massive list of 'Good Email Addresses', this collection from posted messages > to a all the lists he is subscribed to is an excellent ploy. Verified > address lists have commercial value!!

I'm with David Naylor from an earlier post. If I wanted to build up a massive list of 'Good Email Addresses', this collection from posted messages to a all the lists he is subscribed to is an excellent ploy. Verified address lists have commercial value!! Brad Miter

AAAARGH!!! I open up my emailer this morning and 50% of ALL my mail is still going on about this. Not the first time, why in his list do subs need to worry subjects to death, particularly when it is not an earth shattering subject. Ahh I will go and have a nice strong cuppa and calm down. Tom

Folks, can't we just get over this paranoia?! Can you say, "Forget It", "Get over it!" I'm tired of seeing the same old crap, day after day, about this person's subscribing to various Lists. If he's causing no harm, rachet back your "paranoia index" a little and stop this incessant postings about him. So much wasted space at Rootsweb.com, so much gobbledy-gook. Guess some of you have nothing better to do than "worry" about potential problems. Sarge At 07/13/2013 10:53 PM Saturday, Wyants wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Folks, > >I'm really not paranoid about this but having looked at my lists just now, >it is clear that something is not quite kosher. This gentleman has >subscribed to 37 of my 79 lists (i.e., some 47%). The range is VERY wide, >and includes 8 lists that are VERY quiet (i.e., have a VERY small number of >subscribers and haven't had any traffic for a couple of years). I don't know >what's up but to err on the side of caution, he's now on moderate on all 37 >lists ... > >PSW > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> >To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:44 PM >Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber (new theory) > > >> >> He is also in most of our "Early French in North America". >> no rhyme or reason, just about everyone. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/family My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Clan Scott List Administrator wrote: > Charani, you are mistaken about spammers not being able to post to a > Rootsweb list. It happens but the spammer must be a list subscriber > to post to the list. The most recent spam attack was the Yahoo > address book spam that used a Yahoo user's address book to send a > short message like, "Hey!" and a link to a non-domestic site that > tried to harvest the link-clicker's address book, etc. It took a > while for the Rootsweb gurus to stop at least two rounds of spam from > this malware. I've seen other spammers in the past. Um, I didn't say spammers weren't able to post to a Rootsweb list. I /was/ positing a theoretical scenario though. Spammers can and do try (sometimes successfully) to spam lists but the person who's causing you so much apparent grief hasn't posted a single message of any kind. Therefore, he can't be a spammer or else he's a very clever one. There have been people who've subscribed to lists with the sole purpose of placing an advertisement in order to gain business. That, as I've sure you are aware, is not allowed under Rootsweb rules. Therefore, the person doing that is a spammer. Spammers aren't just those who send malicious links to lists via a genuine list member's address or send scam mails. There are also genuine list members who no longer want list mails but don't bother to unsub properly and mark Rootsweb mail as spam. I'm very well aware spammers can masquerade as a list member by spoofing or faking the address. (I've dealt with a number of such attempts, only two of which made it to through and they were out of the archives in a matter of hours). I'm also very well aware the Yahoo servers were hacked at the beginning of the year causing a glut of fake mails from Yahoo addresses and from ISP addresses where Yahoo has supplied the email service. (All attempts failed to get through to my lists.) It wasn't malware which is viruses, trojans and the like. It was a hack and a serious one. And it's still happening. I've even had an instance where hackers responded to a warning their begging mail was a scam that it wasn't a scam, it was genuine. I know the person whose account it was. Again it was dealt with quickly and the mails removed from the archives in a matter of hours. I'm not sure quite what you mean about a "non domestic site". I'd hazard a guess that what is a "non domestic site" to you may not necessarily be a "non domestic site" to me or another list admin. Non member spammers have also been known to get their garbage on lists when an admin has accidentally clicked on 'accept' instead of 'discard' where the list is set to hold all non member mails. G'night! :) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

And to some of the Freedmen's lists. Definitely not Irish. Deloris -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:44 PM To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber (new theory) > > He is also in most of our "Early French in North America". > no rhyme or reason, just about everyone.

He is also in most of our "Early French in North America". no rhyme or reason, just about everyone.

Folks, I'm really not paranoid about this but having looked at my lists just now, it is clear that something is not quite kosher. This gentleman has subscribed to 37 of my 79 lists (i.e., some 47%). The range is VERY wide, and includes 8 lists that are VERY quiet (i.e., have a VERY small number of subscribers and haven't had any traffic for a couple of years). I don't know what's up but to err on the side of caution, he's now on moderate on all 37 lists ... PSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber (new theory) > > He is also in most of our "Early French in North America". > no rhyme or reason, just about everyone. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If they were going to do that they wouldn't subscribe to the lists...they would use Google to check the archives of the lists (and other sources) for potential infringement issues. Joan In a message dated 7/13/2013 8:36:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gnphllps@comcast.net writes: He's also subscribed to a lot of my lists and has never posted. I did notice something. All my surname lists where he is a member has an Irish connection. I googled tyronealcon The top hit was the Tyrone Constitution in Omagh Northern Ireland. Perhaps it's only the newspaper monitoring all the Irish related lists for copyright violations. Gene

"Perhaps it's only the newspaper monitoring all the Irish related lists for copyright violations" I seriously doubt if that's what he's doing. He's subbed to several of my Surname lists, as well as to 2 of my North Carolina County lists, none of which are particularly known for their Irish connections. Deloris Williams -------------------------------------------------- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:51 PM To: <gnphllps@comcast.net>; <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber (new theory) > If they were going to do that they wouldn't subscribe to the lists...they > would use Google to check the archives of the lists (and other sources) > for > potential infringement issues. > > Joan

He's also subscribed to a lot of my lists and has never posted. I did notice something. All my surname lists where he is a member has an Irish connection. I googled tyronealcon The top hit was the Tyrone Constitution in Omagh Northern Ireland. Perhaps it's only the newspaper monitoring all the Irish related lists for copyright violations. Gene

He has subscribed to some of mine lately as well. No problems. I swear we have gone over this before here about him. I believe someone said he was the grandson of a known genealogist and not to worry about him. I searched listowners just now with his email in the body and 7 show up for these last 2 days-and his name which is in the emails too does not hit any, which is weird. But Paul saying 200 of his lists and me remembering his address from his last round of subbing to my lists make me really believe it is him again and no one needs to worry about him. Margy -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JYoung6180@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:12 PM To: listadmin@clanscottsociety.org; listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] suspicious subscriber I can't see any mass spammer going through all this to just get addresses or eventually at some future date spam all the lists he's subscribed to. I have no idea why he is joining all these lists but as long as his mail isn't bouncing and he isn't posting inappropriately it really isn't any of our business why he is subscribing to the lists. In all the years I've been around RootsWeb lists and that has been from the very beginning the ONLY people I've ever seen who have subscribed to many lists and not posted and had some "evil" plot that plot was to gather all the list posts from every list and create an off-site archive which is against RootsWeb rules and would be a violation of individual poster AND RootsWeb Copyright. RootsWeb has gone after this type of abuser in the past and won...but so far I can't find any evidence that this is being done by THIS mass subscriber. If he was doing this it would be easily found in a Google search. Joan In a message dated 7/13/2013 4:20:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, listadmin@clanscottsociety.org writes: Has Tyron Alcon posted any legitimate genealogy message to any Rootsweb list? He has not posted (yet) to any of my lists. It is possible he is legit but he has subscribed to all but two of my lists now and subscribed to another today. Oddly, one of the lists he is not a subscriber is a large list and the one I've had the longest. From what others have said, I'm wondering if he's trying to join all the surname lists. So far, he has not unsubscribed from any list I administer. Based on the feedback I've gotten, it looks like he's subscribing randomly to a eclectic combination of lists. It is possible he's doing a lot of genealogy research for others and wanting to stay current with new postings without searching the archives daily. But there are other potential possibilities, too. I wonder if he's also signing up for other lists (location, etc.). Charani, you are mistaken about spammers not being able to post to a Rootsweb list. It happens but the spammer must be a list subscriber to post to the list. The most recent spam attack was the Yahoo address book spam that used a Yahoo user's address book to send a short message like, "Hey!" and a link to a non-domestic site that tried to harvest the link-clicker's address book, etc. It took a while for the Rootsweb gurus to stop at least two rounds of spam from this malware. I've seen other spammers in the past. It is possible that Tyron Alcon is joining all or most of Rootsweb lists and plans to flood Rootsweb with spam or other inappropriate messages. Thankfully, there is a limit to number of email addresses in the header of a message for any Rootsweb posting. (Set up in the past to minimize spamming.) But a smart spammer could find ways around that. While I don't think administrators should put their lists on emergency moderation, I do suggest the General Option "Should administrator get notices of subscribes and unsubscribes?" setting should be "Yes" so that you are aware if Tyrone Alcon is requesting a subscription to your list(s) or has left your list. I also recommend setting his email address to moderation in the Membership Management section to prevent inappropriate postings from him. Something still does not seem right with Tyrone Alcon. As I said before, I'd rather err on the side of caution than have to deal with a big, messy problem. David Scott At 06:59 PM 7/11/2013, Charani wrote: >Clan Scott List Administrator wrote: >>I may be over-reacting but I'd rather err on the side of caution: >> >>Over the last month I have had several subscriber requests from >>tyronealcon@gmail.com (Tyrone Alcon) to unrelated and diverse surname >>lists. They have occurred one at a time and rarely on the same day. >>Unless this individual has a rather unusual family tree or is a >>long-lost cousin, I doubt someone would have interest in the surname >>lists he's been requesting subscription. > >It's possible he is legit. > >I have 30 names I'm seriously researching, but at least as many again >I've a passing interest in. Some of the names are unusual or >localised and/or single source. I'm also doing a One Place Study, so >there are dozens of names I'm following up on. > >I will join lists because I have an interest in them but maybe not >post at all perhaps because I've found the answer or because I've >been distracted by something on another line of research. Some >lists I'm subbed to I've forgotten about because they are so quiet. > >One of my list members believed she had to be subscribed to a list in >order to search the archives so she was subbing to numerous lists just >to do that - until I told her she didn't have to. It's possible he's >doing that. > >>Perhaps I'm thinking the worst of people but after a couple of these >>subscription requests, I put him on moderation. > >OK, suppose he IS a spammer. He's apparently aware he can't send spam >to the lists. He may be aware steps have been taken to prevent >addresses being harvested from the archives. IF he wants to gather >addresses, there's only one other way to do it ;) Putting him on mod, >wouldn't stop him if he really is a hunter-gatherer. > >I'm NOT saying this is what is actually happening, only that it's an >unlikely possibility. Word is spammers don't join lists. > >-- >Charani (UK) >OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, >Greinton and Clutton, SOM >http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can't see any mass spammer going through all this to just get addresses or eventually at some future date spam all the lists he's subscribed to. I have no idea why he is joining all these lists but as long as his mail isn't bouncing and he isn't posting inappropriately it really isn't any of our business why he is subscribing to the lists. In all the years I've been around RootsWeb lists and that has been from the very beginning the ONLY people I've ever seen who have subscribed to many lists and not posted and had some "evil" plot that plot was to gather all the list posts from every list and create an off-site archive which is against RootsWeb rules and would be a violation of individual poster AND RootsWeb Copyright. RootsWeb has gone after this type of abuser in the past and won...but so far I can't find any evidence that this is being done by THIS mass subscriber. If he was doing this it would be easily found in a Google search. Joan In a message dated 7/13/2013 4:20:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, listadmin@clanscottsociety.org writes: Has Tyron Alcon posted any legitimate genealogy message to any Rootsweb list? He has not posted (yet) to any of my lists. It is possible he is legit but he has subscribed to all but two of my lists now and subscribed to another today. Oddly, one of the lists he is not a subscriber is a large list and the one I've had the longest. From what others have said, I'm wondering if he's trying to join all the surname lists. So far, he has not unsubscribed from any list I administer. Based on the feedback I've gotten, it looks like he's subscribing randomly to a eclectic combination of lists. It is possible he's doing a lot of genealogy research for others and wanting to stay current with new postings without searching the archives daily. But there are other potential possibilities, too. I wonder if he's also signing up for other lists (location, etc.). Charani, you are mistaken about spammers not being able to post to a Rootsweb list. It happens but the spammer must be a list subscriber to post to the list. The most recent spam attack was the Yahoo address book spam that used a Yahoo user's address book to send a short message like, "Hey!" and a link to a non-domestic site that tried to harvest the link-clicker's address book, etc. It took a while for the Rootsweb gurus to stop at least two rounds of spam from this malware. I've seen other spammers in the past. It is possible that Tyron Alcon is joining all or most of Rootsweb lists and plans to flood Rootsweb with spam or other inappropriate messages. Thankfully, there is a limit to number of email addresses in the header of a message for any Rootsweb posting. (Set up in the past to minimize spamming.) But a smart spammer could find ways around that. While I don't think administrators should put their lists on emergency moderation, I do suggest the General Option "Should administrator get notices of subscribes and unsubscribes?" setting should be "Yes" so that you are aware if Tyrone Alcon is requesting a subscription to your list(s) or has left your list. I also recommend setting his email address to moderation in the Membership Management section to prevent inappropriate postings from him. Something still does not seem right with Tyrone Alcon. As I said before, I'd rather err on the side of caution than have to deal with a big, messy problem. David Scott At 06:59 PM 7/11/2013, Charani wrote: >Clan Scott List Administrator wrote: >>I may be over-reacting but I'd rather err on the side of caution: >> >>Over the last month I have had several subscriber requests from >>tyronealcon@gmail.com (Tyrone Alcon) to unrelated and diverse surname >>lists. They have occurred one at a time and rarely on the same >>day. Unless this individual has a rather unusual family tree or is a >>long-lost cousin, I doubt someone would have interest in the surname >>lists he's been requesting subscription. > >It's possible he is legit. > >I have 30 names I'm seriously researching, but at least as many >again I've a passing interest in. Some of the names are unusual or >localised and/or single source. I'm also doing a One Place Study, >so there are dozens of names I'm following up on. > >I will join lists because I have an interest in them but maybe not >post at all perhaps because I've found the answer or because I've >been distracted by something on another line of research. Some >lists I'm subbed to I've forgotten about because they are so quiet. > >One of my list members believed she had to be subscribed to a list >in order to search the archives so she was subbing to numerous lists >just to do that - until I told her she didn't have to. It's >possible he's doing that. > >>Perhaps I'm thinking the worst of people but after a couple of these >>subscription requests, I put him on moderation. > >OK, suppose he IS a spammer. He's apparently aware he can't send >spam to the lists. He may be aware steps have been taken to prevent >addresses being harvested from the archives. IF he wants to gather >addresses, there's only one other way to do it ;) Putting him on >mod, wouldn't stop him if he really is a hunter-gatherer. > >I'm NOT saying this is what is actually happening, only that it's an >unlikely possibility. Word is spammers don't join lists. > >-- >Charani (UK) >OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, >Greinton and Clutton, SOM >http://wsom-opc.org.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message