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    1. [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists
    2. Keith Meintjes

    3. How is a handwritten letter a COPY of anything? This is a silly conversation. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:37 PM Joan Young via LISTOWNERS < listowners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Wrong. If you send me a letter I own the COPY you sent me just like a book > I may own. But that doesn't mean I hold copyright to your words or the > book. > > > > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > listowners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 6:28 pm > Subject: [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists > > Wrong. > > If I were to mail you a letter, it belongs to you, not to me. > > Physical letters are auctioned off all the time by the recipients. > > Keith > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Dan M <mygenrw2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Messages belong to the original poster. > > Fwd without permission is a copyright violation. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:28 PM Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > > > > > Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists? I have it in my mind > > > that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. > > > > > > -- > > > Pat Connors > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=N5k3Sjn6j_u1ABWl8ZgxKNthfG44J3cPHpGmPKql2M8&s=DAeDlThUz6opXaM7YRAz9PKTLxoJTNA7S28I1jeoEQ8&e= > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=Wo2vLoUnCRPGdCN6iEP_nbzVr6NxbStQKwbG25oJOdU&e= > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1BrSGjSAJwIBgDxKMT68PAcr3L_8O86aV3b5UKS0wMU&e= > > Terms and Conditions: > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1B6MN9UlEqW4lIQP3Nag1pvnCNJ0twL4MAhJqDg7TwU&e= > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=RpmXcNYdqy8b3qAi9W1YxDTUUB5GwIoMD9__mbZ8kCo&e= > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=PaD4lzBoFefFyAg7dlpTczXgnu3LF_sAk8UMuSsopb8&e= > Terms and Conditions: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=c0R38qKc2gGSegFv4eOxZ6EBLyGxVwazyqk1_yydghc&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > -- > +1.248.891.6434 > Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=sCFld0nsK1Am7e6qOjFHxgHmonpN5D5D1hcZ7_sQgjE&s=iYZKhvnZRy7t58WkXlI2j_J5AILPLJkdwtzwReioSRw&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=sCFld0nsK1Am7e6qOjFHxgHmonpN5D5D1hcZ7_sQgjE&s=PbDlVDULKhgY_qqEZKf6wXJFlUEp-2LIe_Wia-2RjNs&e= > Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=sCFld0nsK1Am7e6qOjFHxgHmonpN5D5D1hcZ7_sQgjE&s=H05fQdNg6a7_rl1YmmFDoGt8PhgQj9CMeN0Szu23f3w&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=h7ZRLBJiRSj0eGtHZAroYyfEZWrHpominhnY5OPWqfU&s=YfGWYhzYmx7GVxsBxyLhTw-HeHEjrQ_Bmh0e9CHXB_Y&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=h7ZRLBJiRSj0eGtHZAroYyfEZWrHpominhnY5OPWqfU&s=-P-LpIP7AOM65MC3iRuLYAaVeJlMQcLD_BQ6-KVakkY&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=h7ZRLBJiRSj0eGtHZAroYyfEZWrHpominhnY5OPWqfU&s=c5u3b0khxyVHaVP-OmKtEgPck7w_A8sC1WCbG7PsTvo&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

    09/05/2018 06:12:14
    1. [LO] Re: Are gateway posts back?
    2. David E. Cann

    3. That's what I thought too, but I've "discarded" dozens of them in the last week or so. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: Joan Young via LISTOWNERS <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 6:36 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Cc: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Subject: [LO] Re: Are gateway posts back? My understanding is the gateway is not coming back. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> To: Listowners List Posting <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 6:01 pm Subject: [LO] Are gateway posts back? In the last several days I've begun getting a slew of board gateway posts once again. I've been deleting them once again, but what is going on? Has RW changed their mind and started letting then through again (I hope!!) or is something else broken? Do we resume deleting them again or what??? David E. Cann decann@infionline.net _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=Dw ICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE& m=dRrFD7cpOkI7paSm8HRlXCTPQKzhrW_ltDAwXipdXWc&s=8muwNxAP6UUReivYOEKYv7cK0C3X T-saXND9N6hqw3s&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=Dw ICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE& m=dRrFD7cpOkI7paSm8HRlXCTPQKzhrW_ltDAwXipdXWc&s=UIC-f7FGY3ti_LhAnpMkqZyaGUQR q4bxCXKYD6I7xjQ&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=Dw ICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE& m=dRrFD7cpOkI7paSm8HRlXCTPQKzhrW_ltDAwXipdXWc&s=p4qDEbpRRRmiMihlmYyPx86A_B5b 5OYstmkptIFfhds&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=j8sXQ6hIkxGHaoYKTB08xwV3saCRXbx_kCTAx3iiSDE&s=QfrVY7UFV2eAG4VeDS92TILow9lfNjxnHIybeWtgVBY&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=j8sXQ6hIkxGHaoYKTB08xwV3saCRXbx_kCTAx3iiSDE&s=B4YQo61qBbrjWmQHtPqKG1Z32WMuYfgIGec9ZLehK2Q&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=j8sXQ6hIkxGHaoYKTB08xwV3saCRXbx_kCTAx3iiSDE&s=BOtktkmh87h9WZcPnkUR8d89OF-ExjJ8n_JNu1wEE5A&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/05/2018 05:41:50
    1. [LO] Re: Are gateway posts back?
    2. Mary Richardson

    3. Joan, that is my understanding, too. I admin the board that was gatewayed to my list, so I've set my phone to remind me weekly to check my board. If there's anything new, I post it to my list. Plugging my fingers in the dyke to keep connections between my listers and board posters! Mary Richardson At 06:35 PM 9/5/2018, Joan Young via LISTOWNERS wrote: >My understanding is the gateway is not coming back. > >Joan Young >jyoung6180@aol.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> >To: Listowners List Posting <listowners@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 6:01 pm >Subject: [LO] Are gateway posts back? > >In the last several days I've begun getting a slew of board gateway posts >once again. I've been deleting them once again, but what is going on? Has >RW changed their mind and started letting then through again (I hope!!) or >is something else broken? Do we resume deleting them again or what???

    09/05/2018 05:37:18
    1. [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists
    2. Joan Young

    3. Wrong. If you send me a letter I own the COPY you sent me just like a book I may own. But that doesn't mean I hold copyright to your words or the book. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 6:28 pm Subject: [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists Wrong. If I were to mail you a letter, it belongs to you, not to me. Physical letters are auctioned off all the time by the recipients. Keith On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Dan M <mygenrw2@gmail.com> wrote: > Messages belong to the original poster. > Fwd without permission is a copyright violation. > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:28 PM Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > > > Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists? I have it in my mind > > that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. > > > > -- > > Pat Connors > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=N5k3Sjn6j_u1ABWl8ZgxKNthfG44J3cPHpGmPKql2M8&s=DAeDlThUz6opXaM7YRAz9PKTLxoJTNA7S28I1jeoEQ8&e= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=Wo2vLoUnCRPGdCN6iEP_nbzVr6NxbStQKwbG25oJOdU&e= > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1BrSGjSAJwIBgDxKMT68PAcr3L_8O86aV3b5UKS0wMU&e= > Terms and Conditions: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1B6MN9UlEqW4lIQP3Nag1pvnCNJ0twL4MAhJqDg7TwU&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=RpmXcNYdqy8b3qAi9W1YxDTUUB5GwIoMD9__mbZ8kCo&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=PaD4lzBoFefFyAg7dlpTczXgnu3LF_sAk8UMuSsopb8&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=c0R38qKc2gGSegFv4eOxZ6EBLyGxVwazyqk1_yydghc&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=sCFld0nsK1Am7e6qOjFHxgHmonpN5D5D1hcZ7_sQgjE&s=iYZKhvnZRy7t58WkXlI2j_J5AILPLJkdwtzwReioSRw&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=sCFld0nsK1Am7e6qOjFHxgHmonpN5D5D1hcZ7_sQgjE&s=PbDlVDULKhgY_qqEZKf6wXJFlUEp-2LIe_Wia-2RjNs&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=sCFld0nsK1Am7e6qOjFHxgHmonpN5D5D1hcZ7_sQgjE&s=H05fQdNg6a7_rl1YmmFDoGt8PhgQj9CMeN0Szu23f3w&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/05/2018 04:36:52
    1. [LO] Re: Are gateway posts back?
    2. Joan Young

    3. My understanding is the gateway is not coming back. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: David E. Cann <decann@infionline.net> To: Listowners List Posting <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 6:01 pm Subject: [LO] Are gateway posts back? In the last several days I've begun getting a slew of board gateway posts once again. I've been deleting them once again, but what is going on? Has RW changed their mind and started letting then through again (I hope!!) or is something else broken? Do we resume deleting them again or what??? David E. Cann decann@infionline.net _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=dRrFD7cpOkI7paSm8HRlXCTPQKzhrW_ltDAwXipdXWc&s=8muwNxAP6UUReivYOEKYv7cK0C3XT-saXND9N6hqw3s&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=dRrFD7cpOkI7paSm8HRlXCTPQKzhrW_ltDAwXipdXWc&s=UIC-f7FGY3ti_LhAnpMkqZyaGUQRq4bxCXKYD6I7xjQ&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=dRrFD7cpOkI7paSm8HRlXCTPQKzhrW_ltDAwXipdXWc&s=p4qDEbpRRRmiMihlmYyPx86A_B5b5OYstmkptIFfhds&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/05/2018 04:35:35
    1. [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists
    2. Keith Meintjes

    3. Wrong. If I were to mail you a letter, it belongs to you, not to me. Physical letters are auctioned off all the time by the recipients. Keith On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM Dan M <mygenrw2@gmail.com> wrote: > Messages belong to the original poster. > Fwd without permission is a copyright violation. > > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:28 PM Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > > > Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists? I have it in my mind > > that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. > > > > -- > > Pat Connors > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=N5k3Sjn6j_u1ABWl8ZgxKNthfG44J3cPHpGmPKql2M8&s=DAeDlThUz6opXaM7YRAz9PKTLxoJTNA7S28I1jeoEQ8&e= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=Wo2vLoUnCRPGdCN6iEP_nbzVr6NxbStQKwbG25oJOdU&e= > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1BrSGjSAJwIBgDxKMT68PAcr3L_8O86aV3b5UKS0wMU&e= > Terms and Conditions: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1B6MN9UlEqW4lIQP3Nag1pvnCNJ0twL4MAhJqDg7TwU&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=RpmXcNYdqy8b3qAi9W1YxDTUUB5GwIoMD9__mbZ8kCo&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=PaD4lzBoFefFyAg7dlpTczXgnu3LF_sAk8UMuSsopb8&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=FRBvys1qoro9T_f1H_nYpMEEJFbLjc46J19v8w1A4jo&s=c0R38qKc2gGSegFv4eOxZ6EBLyGxVwazyqk1_yydghc&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

    09/05/2018 04:27:37
    1. [LO] Are gateway posts back?
    2. David E. Cann

    3. In the last several days I've begun getting a slew of board gateway posts once again. I've been deleting them once again, but what is going on? Has RW changed their mind and started letting then through again (I hope!!) or is something else broken? Do we resume deleting them again or what??? David E. Cann decann@infionline.net

    09/05/2018 04:01:30
    1. [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists
    2. Lynne

    3. Forwarded by whom? Can you tell us a little more, please. If you're asking if it's okay for a subscriber to forward a message from a non-subscriber at that non-subscriber's request, that would seem to be up to you as admin. The same goes if a non-subscriber asks you to forward their message to the list. They both sort of defeat the purpose of subscribing to the list, but I can see that in some circumstances it would be okay. If permission from the original poster hasn't been given, like in the case of a subscriber wanting to forward a message the subscriber saw posted on another list, that would not be permitted. Of course, the subscriber could always point others to the post in the archives. Lynne >On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:28 PM Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists? I have it in my mind >> that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. >> >> -- >> Pat Connors

    09/05/2018 03:50:03
    1. [LO] Re: Unsubscribe confirmations
    2. Mary Richardson

    3. Thanks, David. I reviewed all the settings. This seems to be the pertinent one: Settings > Automatic Responses > Notify admin of membership changes. The option is Yes or No for "Should administrator get notices of subscribes and unsubscribes?" Mine is set to Yes, suggesting that I should have received a notice when I unsubbed my lister. Since I didn't, what else do I need to do? Mary Richardson At 04:55 PM 9/5/2018, W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: >You can get unsub confirmation. I still do with all the lists I manage. > >It's in list settings. You have to reset because of change from >Mailman2 to 3 version. > >David Samuelsen > >Today, I unsubbed a lister. When I did this in the "olden" days, I >received an unsub confirmation from Rootsweb. I've yet to receive >one today in my inbox or spam catcher, so I'm wondering if I will >now only receive unsub confirmations when listers unsub themselves, >i.e., I won't receive a confirmation when I perform the unsub. Thoughts? > >Thanks, >Mary Richardson

    09/05/2018 03:49:27
    1. [LO] Re: Unsubscribe confirmations
    2. W David Samuelsen

    3. You can get unsub confirmation. I still do with all the lists I manage. It's in list settings. You have to reset because of change from Mailman2 to 3 version. David Samuelsen Today, I unsubbed a lister. When I did this in the "olden" days, I received an unsub confirmation from Rootsweb. I've yet to receive one today in my inbox or spam catcher, so I'm wondering if I will now only receive unsub confirmations when listers unsub themselves, i.e., I won't receive a confirmation when I perform the unsub. Thoughts? Thanks, Mary Richardson

    09/05/2018 02:55:02
    1. [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists
    2. Dan M

    3. Messages belong to the original poster. Fwd without permission is a copyright violation. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:28 PM Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists? I have it in my mind > that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. > > -- > Pat Connors > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=N5k3Sjn6j_u1ABWl8ZgxKNthfG44J3cPHpGmPKql2M8&s=DAeDlThUz6opXaM7YRAz9PKTLxoJTNA7S28I1jeoEQ8&e= > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=Wo2vLoUnCRPGdCN6iEP_nbzVr6NxbStQKwbG25oJOdU&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1BrSGjSAJwIBgDxKMT68PAcr3L_8O86aV3b5UKS0wMU&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=aLd1M5FVXb92ZPQgmtsolEkBySSuTjO-1WdjOfqyFbs&s=1B6MN9UlEqW4lIQP3Nag1pvnCNJ0twL4MAhJqDg7TwU&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    09/05/2018 02:40:44
    1. [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists
    2. Nivard Ovington

    3. Hi Pat I can see no obvious reason why a forwarded message wouldn't be acceptable to be posted If it was on topic for that list Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 05/09/2018 21:27, Pat Connors wrote: > Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists?  I have it in my mind > that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. > > -- > Pat Connors

    09/05/2018 02:38:47
    1. [LO] Re: forwarded messages to lists
    2. Keith Meintjes

    3. I think if a message is forwarded, it comes from the person (A) who forwarded it. The original sender (B) does not matter. So, if A is a subscriber, it goes through. Keith On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 4:28 PM Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists? I have it in my mind > that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. > > -- > Pat Connors > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=N5k3Sjn6j_u1ABWl8ZgxKNthfG44J3cPHpGmPKql2M8&s=DAeDlThUz6opXaM7YRAz9PKTLxoJTNA7S28I1jeoEQ8&e= > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=bxHUp3OOQlhqBvq888taTDRnQ4s1-O4uayYKJ3Tpzcc&s=0C67qyrd3XAGCwMgRBVkd6LDNVYuKhugPwItpdIQkQM&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=bxHUp3OOQlhqBvq888taTDRnQ4s1-O4uayYKJ3Tpzcc&s=4cdiFQy2OTsPr9YCl6wUbpGufN9UWEadUo1TuLIMzo4&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=bxHUp3OOQlhqBvq888taTDRnQ4s1-O4uayYKJ3Tpzcc&s=BIo9PGCP9c4TQAATzX8e753jtVIljd8kYuee5dwQh7M&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

    09/05/2018 02:35:27
    1. [LO] forwarded messages to lists
    2. Pat Connors

    3. Are forwarded messages allow to go to the lists?  I have it in my mind that they cannot but being questioned by a subber. -- Pat Connors https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.connorsgenealogy.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=N5k3Sjn6j_u1ABWl8ZgxKNthfG44J3cPHpGmPKql2M8&s=DAeDlThUz6opXaM7YRAz9PKTLxoJTNA7S28I1jeoEQ8&e=

    09/05/2018 02:27:55
    1. [LO] Re: Unsubscribe confirmations
    2. Anne Mitchell

    3. If the person isn't on the list after you unsub, he/she is unsubbed. There are way too many priorities across World Connect, Lists and Hosted Web Sites to add that to the list. Anne On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 7:42 PM Mary Richardson <mrichson@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Thanks, Rick, but I didn't get a confirmation on that page when I > clicked on Unsubscribe. If that's a problem, maybe Anne's team can > look into it when there are fewer issues to resolve. > > Nonetheless, I know that I don't NEED an unsub confirmation. I just > like to have one because I copy all sub and unsub notifications into > a Word doc -- a micro management luxury that has served me well > because I only admin one list. (I did add one recently, but it's > neither here nor there.) Just before Rootsweb switched from > Smartlist to Mailman in 2006, I made a copy of all my subscriber > addresses. I have kept a record of all the subs and unsubs since > then, which came in very handy when my list lost list mode for 10 > months back in 2013. It was my records that got all my listers back > after Gerhard figured out what the 10-month problem was. So yes, I > keep records about my listers...just in case. > > > At 09:53 PM 9/1/2018, Richard Berkheiser wrote: > >You really don't need one. When you manually unsub somebody from your > list > >tools you'll see it confirmed on that page once you click Unsubscribe. > > > > > >At 09:10 PM 9/1/2018, Mary Richardson wrote: > >>Today, I unsubbed a lister. When I did this in the "olden" days, I > >>received an unsub confirmation from Rootsweb. I've yet to receive > >>one today in my inbox or spam catcher, so I'm wondering if I will > >>now only receive unsub confirmations when listers unsub themselves, > >>i.e., I won't receive a confirmation when I perform the unsub. Thoughts? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Mary Richardson > >

    09/04/2018 02:37:56
    1. [LO] Re: Anyone seen my Tardis
    2. Nivard Ovington

    3. The incorrect date/time from senders has been a known problem for many years, only now it seems to be more visible, in the old archives you would need to look for 1990 posts to find them I see what you mean re 1997 & 1998 posts in the August 2018 archives Most, possibly all are linked to one person, A Dwayne Crandall Who I suspect had his date/clock set 31st August 2018 for a period Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/09/2018 13:31, Lynne wrote: > Wow! The date thing and the archives seems to have taken a new and much worse turn. Now there are messages from the 1990's mixed in with last month's posts. At first I thought they were messages from a completely different list, but upon opening them saw that they were indeed to Listowners. Don't think this has ever happened before. > > Lynne

    09/04/2018 08:06:35
    1. [LO] Re: Anyone seen my Tardis
    2. Lynne

    3. Wow! The date thing and the archives seems to have taken a new and much worse turn. Now there are messages from the 1990's mixed in with last month's posts. At first I thought they were messages from a completely different list, but upon opening them saw that they were indeed to Listowners. Don't think this has ever happened before. Lynne

    09/04/2018 06:31:18
    1. [LO] Re: ProofPoint Junk is BACK!
    2. Lynne

    3. I told Anne about the problem on 23 August and it was mentioned on this list a few days later. They're working on it. Lynne W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> wrote: > >What is going on? Thought this was corrected. >

    09/04/2018 06:15:59
    1. [LO] Re: ProofPoint Junk is BACK!
    2. David E. Cann

    3. Actually, it's been "back" almost a week now. I've seen the garbage sneaking in since early last week David. ☹ David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen <dsam52@sampubco.com> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 7:56 PM To: Listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] ProofPoint Junk is BACK! What is going on? Thought this was corrected. Alas, it isn't as of today. Here's the ProofPoint JUNK. David Samuelsen _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIGIw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=CObM9XswBFCRXUmxuXCSs_y04QH3wf-Uh2EOmBiXbrk&m=HbQ8pRl4atOmJrdB-1QqhpVgpgQDMgUexYDl7c6jU60&s=4u2v3mqUFyf8kZtKCQ2uFs7EmzPu5tvuGr6JGUKT9Wc&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hesse@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIGIw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=CObM9XswBFCRXUmxuXCSs_y04QH3wf-Uh2EOmBiXbrk&m=HbQ8pRl4atOmJrdB-1QqhpVgpgQDMgUexYDl7c6jU60&s=a6YEiIOXt8pFntuGLu9O1maHJD0KX-v3f6VTi6UjjLw&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIGIw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=CObM9XswBFCRXUmxuXCSs_y04QH3wf-Uh2EOmBiXbrk&m=HbQ8pRl4atOmJrdB-1QqhpVgpgQDMgUexYDl7c6jU60&s=baITk2SqEXlOaHHwYV10HYfyiFA_2KYPcOe3nXpqiEE&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=e2XytoJmSw3w6j8rWWqHhPhwzRKTRw5Y7-ksAR-o9zw&s=NEGU_OFm4mu0HcNg0cuadTuhzssMmcdYTGBBY8xRleU&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=e2XytoJmSw3w6j8rWWqHhPhwzRKTRw5Y7-ksAR-o9zw&s=1t_CEKXsuk6b3FTmCc4SDLCUkEKH_C9bXtfvPbevQuI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=QqKR_1oid-wv3O1GFus6ukhkWVArI2oTvHi2_JUm6dE&m=e2XytoJmSw3w6j8rWWqHhPhwzRKTRw5Y7-ksAR-o9zw&s=rrIk7BHNn47LuS-_Uaf1S-F2n-Yiv4pAs4Y37S8Gtsg&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/03/2018 09:53:35
    1. [LO] ProofPoint Junk is BACK!
    2. W David Samuelsen

    3. What is going on? Thought this was corrected. Alas, it isn't as of today. Here's the ProofPoint JUNK. David Samuelsen _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIGIw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=CObM9XswBFCRXUmxuXCSs_y04QH3wf-Uh2EOmBiXbrk&m=HbQ8pRl4atOmJrdB-1QqhpVgpgQDMgUexYDl7c6jU60&s=4u2v3mqUFyf8kZtKCQ2uFs7EmzPu5tvuGr6JGUKT9Wc&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/hesse@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIGIw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=CObM9XswBFCRXUmxuXCSs_y04QH3wf-Uh2EOmBiXbrk&m=HbQ8pRl4atOmJrdB-1QqhpVgpgQDMgUexYDl7c6jU60&s=a6YEiIOXt8pFntuGLu9O1maHJD0KX-v3f6VTi6UjjLw&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIGIw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=CObM9XswBFCRXUmxuXCSs_y04QH3wf-Uh2EOmBiXbrk&m=HbQ8pRl4atOmJrdB-1QqhpVgpgQDMgUexYDl7c6jU60&s=baITk2SqEXlOaHHwYV10HYfyiFA_2KYPcOe3nXpqiEE&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    09/03/2018 05:56:15