The same thing happens to me for my lists too. pat -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Frye Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:50 PM To: LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] HELP !! I'm the new owner of the Andersonville List and I need some advice. The list has been real slow so I made a posting to attempt to get things moving with conversation. I sent the post several hours ago but have not received it back to my own email and its not in the archives. What am I doing wrong???? Kevin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sorry, I do have any info on any one in this obit. regards, Pat Kendrick http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msjackso/ MS-JACKSON-OBITS-L Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/MS-JACKSON-OBITS?m=r&s=Redisplay Search the MS-JACKSON-OBITS archives by surname and/or with year: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=MS-JACKSON-OBITS

I been using gmail with OE since day one, I have a couple hundred filters and same with folders, I can screen shot this for any one, all my filters and folders work. When MS and the web drop every thing below win 7, then we can learn new tricks but for now this works, some times people get confused making filters and folders. Its also best not to use composite filters, being simple is more trusting. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: "Jim Loudon" <listadr@gmail.com>; <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [LO] OE problem > Perhaps you might reread it then > >> He's using OE and a variety of email addresses including >> verizon. He claims the posts aren't in his spam box and >> that he's not using any filters on his in-box. > > A variety generally means more than one > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> >>> As we do not as yet know if the person with the problem is using said >>> gmail we can't as yet say >>> that it is not pertinent >> >> I believe an ISP was mentioned in the original message in this thread: >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Listowners/2012-02/1330111518 >> >> jim > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

all you have to do is BCC or CC your own address and you will get a copy in your list folder. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: "singhals" <singhals@erols.com>; <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [LO] OE problem > Hi Cheryl > > Is the person with the problem using a gmail address for that list he is > not receiving his posts > from > > gmail does not by default receive a copy from that address (sky is also > gmail) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >>I have a lister who isn't seeing his posts from a list I >> admin. He claims to be seeing his own posts from all other >> RW lists he's on. I've got the whole list set to get >> ME_TOOs. I don't see anything else *I* can do for him. >> >> He's using OE and a variety of email addresses including >> verizon. He claims the posts aren't in his spam box and >> that he's not using any filters on his in-box. >> >> IS there a box in OE he could have checked for just this one >> list that hides the Me-Toos? >> >> Cheryl >> WVHampsh > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat- WHERE are you getting all this spam? Do you mean spam is hitting your LIST or coming to you as admin? Or is it going to your pending requests? If it is in pending requests just delete it -- or you can set pending requests to discard non-subscriber messages and you will never see it. Spam sent to you as admin just delete but it is getting through to your list that has to be dealt with and deleted from the archives. Joan In a message dated 2/25/2012 12:03:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, patcreel@cableone.net writes: Hello, I am brand new to list. Is there a way that rootsweb can manage all the spam that goes to mailing lists? Can they filter the spam? thanks. regards, Pat

Thanks a million. I did what you said. sincerely, pat -----Original Message----- From: Wendy Howard Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:15 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] spam Hi Pat, Are you talking about spam that is reaching your list, and visible in the archive, or spam that is reaching you as the list owner? If spam is reaching your list, it must be coming from people (or a person) who is subscribed to it. Put those people on moderation immediately, or unsubscribe them altogether. It is probably due to their email account being hacked, rather than them themselves sending it. If spam is reaching you as the list owner, you can reduce that. Go to your list's Tools, and go to Privacy Options > Accept List. At the option "Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined", and select Discard. This will remove mail sent to listname-request@rootsweb.com that the system cannot interpret as a proper request (subscribe, etc). Hope this helps. Please give us more information if you need more assistance from us. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Pat <patcreel@cableone.net> wrote: > > Hello, I am brand new to list. Is there a way that rootsweb can manage > all > the spam that goes to mailing lists? Can they filter the spam? > > thanks. > > regards, > Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sorry, I do have any info on any one in this obit. regards, Pat Kendrick http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msjackso/ MS-JACKSON-OBITS-L Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/MS-JACKSON-OBITS?m=r&s=Redisplay Search the MS-JACKSON-OBITS archives by surname and/or with year: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=MS-JACKSON-OBITS

Hello, I am brand new to list. Is there a way that rootsweb can manage all the spam that goes to mailing lists? Can they filter the spam? thanks. regards, Pat

Perhaps you might reread it then > He's using OE and a variety of email addresses including > verizon. He claims the posts aren't in his spam box and > that he's not using any filters on his in-box. A variety generally means more than one Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> As we do not as yet know if the person with the problem is using said gmail we can't as yet say >> that it is not pertinent > > I believe an ISP was mentioned in the original message in this thread: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Listowners/2012-02/1330111518 > > jim

Jim Using gmail with OE as I do and have done for some time I can vouch for the fact that it can receive a copy if configured to do so As we do not as yet know if the person with the problem is using said gmail we can't as yet say that it is not pertinent Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> gmail does not by default receive a copy from that address (sky is also >> gmail) > > Gmail will refuse receipt of email whose message ID is identical to one > already in storage. A subtle but important difference. > > I don't believe that is the problem under discussion, however. > > jim

Hi Cheryl Is the person with the problem using a gmail address for that list he is not receiving his posts from gmail does not by default receive a copy from that address (sky is also gmail) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have a lister who isn't seeing his posts from a list I > admin. He claims to be seeing his own posts from all other > RW lists he's on. I've got the whole list set to get > ME_TOOs. I don't see anything else *I* can do for him. > > He's using OE and a variety of email addresses including > verizon. He claims the posts aren't in his spam box and > that he's not using any filters on his in-box. > > IS there a box in OE he could have checked for just this one > list that hides the Me-Toos? > > Cheryl > WVHampsh

Cheryl, I had a similar situation some months ago, and we NEVER DID conclusively figure out what the problem was, but I thought and still think it was some forwarding filters that he had set and forgotten about, but maybe not. In any event, following is what I suggested we do: 1. I removed his subscriptions (he had two of them) from the list, which should hopefully eliminate any connection to filters to other addys if any exist. 2. Tell the subscriber, when he received the notice of being unsubbed, to resubscribe HIMSELF (you don't do it for him) using whatever account he chooses. This should (at least in theory) reestablish a direct connection to his email account with no forwarding filters, unless he has got something pretty unusual. No guarantees, but this appears to have worked for me and my subscriber remains on the list today with the former problems still seen as past history. I hope it works. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or on Skype at "david.e.cann" -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of singhals Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:25 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] OE problem I have a lister who isn't seeing his posts from a list I admin. He claims to be seeing his own posts from all other RW lists he's on. I've got the whole list set to get ME_TOOs. I don't see anything else *I* can do for him. He's using OE and a variety of email addresses including verizon. He claims the posts aren't in his spam box and that he's not using any filters on his in-box. IS there a box in OE he could have checked for just this one list that hides the Me-Toos? Cheryl WVHampsh

I have a lister who isn't seeing his posts from a list I admin. He claims to be seeing his own posts from all other RW lists he's on. I've got the whole list set to get ME_TOOs. I don't see anything else *I* can do for him. He's using OE and a variety of email addresses including verizon. He claims the posts aren't in his spam box and that he's not using any filters on his in-box. IS there a box in OE he could have checked for just this one list that hides the Me-Toos? Cheryl WVHampsh

Linda, Thank you for this reminder. Sometimes we get so caught up in our own 2 cents' worth that we forget why this list is in existence in the first place. Best wishes, Jim "Pops" Jackson -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Jowers Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:13 AM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Recent LO posts on 'new subs' While I do think a few comments were not written in the most congenial language & could be subject to misunderstanding by some readers, I do have to say that most of the comments did include some helpful information for 'newbie' administrators like me. While I only have one list that does not seem to be greatly active, I have seen a number of obvious spam mails coming in. This conversation has given me some good information on evaluating suspicious but not clearly spam requests and possible ways to handle such subscription requests. It does seem that at this point it is judicial to end this thread, but I did want to point out the educational benefits to those of us who are new to the job. Linda Hopper Jowers NCScots List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While I do think a few comments were not written in the most congenial language & could be subject to misunderstanding by some readers, I do have to say that most of the comments did include some helpful information for 'newbie' administrators like me. While I only have one list that does not seem to be greatly active, I have seen a number of obvious spam mails coming in. This conversation has given me some good information on evaluating suspicious but not clearly spam requests and possible ways to handle such subscription requests. It does seem that at this point it is judicial to end this thread, but I did want to point out the educational benefits to those of us who are new to the job. Linda Hopper Jowers NCScots List

Hello, I believe this is my first post to this list. I usually stay in the background. I am subscribed to MANY Rootsweb email list for surnames, localities, cemeteries, etc. I don't post that often to any of them. I am also the admin for a few surname lists. I agree with the few other posters who suggested just emailing the person with a welcome email and see what the response is. I would have also suggested getting a horse and counting it's teeth. I have a relative who has an email address (first part) of: gylwrnce. Would she have been suspect? She chose to leave all the vowels out of her name except the last one when she created her email address. That is my 2 cents worth. Gwen Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: listowners-request@rootsweb.com Sender: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:50:09 To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16 Today's Topics: 1. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Nivard Ovington) 2. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Charani) 3. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Charani) 4. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on ITS OBITS (Paul L LeBlanc) 5. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Davy Cannon) 6. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Joe Makowiec) 7. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Sue) 8. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (Lee Cognetta) 9. Re: A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on (David McMillan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:17:16 -0000 From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F072852451ED450BA624AF3196EB8276@claireac3e9bca> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original A quick look at the archives finds 14 very recent, seemingly valid posts "Jenn" appears to have a particular interest in Canada > Greetings: > > Pardon me for being obtuse, but why doesn't somebody just e-mail the > address and ask what is going on? In some ways this reminds me of the > story about the Aristotelian philosophers in the Athenian academy > arguing about how many teeth there are in the mouth of a horse. > (Supposedly Aristotle gave conflicting numbers in different writings.) > Some student said, "Why not get a horse and look?" > > They expelled him. > > Darrell ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:03:33 +0000 From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: "'Listowners List Posting'" <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4F421A75.9060905@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Lin wrote: > Jywze1 and 4dlrgen are the ones I have on mine. I've had the second one come to one of my lists. I've a way of dealing with suspicious email addresses. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks there's something amiss. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:34:32 +0000 From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: Kathie Harrison <harrison28@gmail.com> Cc: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4F4221B8.6070908@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kathie Harrison wrote: > I have been using gmail for a few years now and I have not spammed any > lists nor had this one hijacked. I am a reader and a poster so your comment > is incorrect. However, putting new subscribers on MOD is fine but don't do > it too long. Paranoia is an unbecoming admin trait. JMHO Paul's comment wasn't incorrect. It was an observation based on his experience and wasn't directed exclusively at you. I use Gmail as well but I didn't take it as a slight. Some ISPs and email providers are more prone to being used by spammers than others. Some ISPs and providers seem to be used for spamming more in some regions than others. I'm NOT seeing Gmail (yet and touch wood) being used on my lists for spamming purposes. If you had knowingly spammed lists, you would probably have been unsubbed. Some admins will immediately unsub anyone whose address is used for that purpose, others will put the address on mod and will unsub if there's a repeat. Most won't even attempt to contact the person whose address it is to advise them of what's happened. I will and do. Many have their lists set to discard anything not from a list member which means you may not even be aware of spam being sent in your name, nor may you be aware it's been hijacked. *As far as I'm aware* my address hasn't been used to spam any lists or been hijacked - but that is the best I can say with certainty and, TBH, that's the best you can say too. Like Paul, all list new list members are put on mod immediately until I see how they post. Those who just sit there reading or waiting for their questions to be answered without asking stay on mod. It's not paranoia at all. It's keeping the list happy, peaceful and enjoyable for all those who wish to do their research in an harmonious atmosphere - and that is what it's all about. I've noticed, on my lists at least, the addresses that get used for spamming are not the prolific posters where an abrupt change in posting style would be immediately noticed but the more infrequent posters whose style isn't quite so familiar. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:35:13 -0500 (EST) From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on ITS OBITS To: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CEBDEB9BFCDC28-1258-3CDF4@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It appears what she is doing is going through these newspapers obits and finding ones for your areas. Paul From: Jenn < gwnhwyfer@gmail.com> Subject: [CAN-ONT-OBITS] Ottawa Citizen, 16 Feb 2012 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:22:59 -0500 Ottawa Citizen, 16 February 2012 de LEPPER, Gerarda Elizabth "Gerry" - 79; Ottawa, ON; 13 Feb 2012 EASTON, Margaret (CAMERON) - 83; Ottawa, ON; burial 18 Feb 2012 HICKEY, Sheila - 68; Hull, ON; 14 Feb 2012 KALLMANN, Helmut Max - 89; Ottawa, ON; 12 Feb 2012 KINGSBURY, Jeffrey - 33; Quyon, QC; 13 Feb 2012 MAURICE, Dr. Roland Rodolphe - 84; Moncton, NB, 14 Feb 2012 NEWTON, William John "Bill" - 70; Cheneville, QC; 12 Feb 2012 SMITH, Kieran "Kevin" - ; Ottawa, ON; 14 Feb 2012 WARD, George Earl - 84; Ottawa, ON; 14 Feb 2012 Jenn gwnhwyfer@gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:51:06 -0000 From: "Davy Cannon" <davy.cannon1@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: "'Listowners List Posting'" <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002001ccefd6$b1d5f250$1581d6f0$@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm still not sure why, but the email address rang a bell with me, so I googled the first half of it, and the results seem to indicate that she is a legitimate subscriber. Certainly not anonymous. Davy Cannon, Dorchester, Dorset I am willing to admit that this may well turn out to be nothing more than my own paranoia, but for most of this day I have sat here watching one and then another successful subs come in for the following addy: gwnhwyfer@gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:02:12 -0500 From: Joe Makowiec <antigonish@makowiec.org> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <201202201405.q1KE5PlA018379@makowiec2.makowiec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 2-20-2012 01:51 AM, Lin wrote: >Both are similar addresses to the one David mentions, strange >mixtures of letters and all gmail. I am no expert, but it looks like the address (gwnhwyfer) may be Welsh for Jennifer. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:38:05 -0800 From: Sue <sudown@cwnet.com> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: Listowners List Posting <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <50259.1329748685@cwnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nothing is amiss... read her blog... She's a librarian with an interest in genealogy... http://readingincanada.blogspot.com/p/review-policy.html ---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:16:24 -0500 From: Lee Cognetta <daycogs@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: listowners@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4F4263C8.9030401@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dear Everyone: I'm one of the ones who generally stays in the background unless I have a real question or something particular to say. I just went to the list archives and read - as anyone can do - the progression of postings on the subject at hand. Anyone reading those archived messages will see the 'suspect' person's email address, a discussion about whether it is made up of strange letters and some subsequent postings about whether or not this person might have some malicious intent. If they had email in the 1600s, the postings about possible witches in Salem might have sounded similar. I think that this is disgraceful and totally agree that the easiest thing for the initial poster to have done was to simply email the person and try to verify that she has a valid interest in the lists she has joined. Lee Cognetta ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:50:00 -0500 From: "David McMillan" <dmcduke@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on To: "Lee Cognetta" <daycogs@earthlink.net>, <listowners@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <023EDCAFE0EE49E0B05681969CE47E87@DavidPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original -----Original Message----- From: Lee Cognetta I think that this is disgraceful and totally agree that the easiest thing for the initial poster to have done was to simply email the person and try to verify that she has a valid interest in the lists she has joined. Lee Cognetta I agree, Lee. Simply compose a welcome email asking if there's anything you can help with...it would be a nice thing to do with anyone joining. By doing so, you could ferret out their intent. Dave ------------------------------ To contact the LISTOWNERS list administrator, send an email to LISTOWNERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the LISTOWNERS mailing list, send an email to LISTOWNERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of LISTOWNERS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16 *****************************************

Mo, As the originator of the initial post that started this whole convoluted and out of control string, I can only say AMEN and get my own check into the mail as well. :-) What I posted initially was a simple notice of a subscriber subscribing to DOZENS of lists all within a geographical area, and suggested my fellow admins may want to be aware of it due to the obvious (though unlikely) potential of spam going to the lists, and NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. However, beginning with the first or second reply to it, the entire string has gone so far out into left field that it bears no scrap of relevance to my original post, which is why I have stayed out of it and will continue to do so. My only hope now is that our "Fearless List Mom" will come along SOON and "put this pointless, directionless, and entirely meaningless string mercifully out of its misery." Now on a side note, this morning I heard from the very same person who is now a new subscriber to a gazillion Canadian lists. What does this mean? Among other things, it means that either she is a subscriber to this list (and by default a List Admin herself), or she reads the LO archives, or else someone else who does is sharing it with her. Whichever is the case, I really do not care one way or another, but I told her she is free to use any or all of the lists for any appropriate purpose she chooses to because she was somehow under the impression that she had been removed from the lists but I have no idea why because I had never written to her before. She remains on moderation until she posts a time or two, but I will never regret using the tools available to me for any real or perceived potential threat to the lists. 'Nuf said. And finally, to all of the LO subscribers who are 1. Writing directly to me about this, or 2. Putting a "cc" or "bcc" to me on your replies to the list, or 3. Including me in any way, shape or form. . . . . PLEASE STOP DOING SO, and leave me out of it. This string is out of control has been polluted beyond my original post almost from the beginning, and is not mine and never has been. Thank you. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net or on Skype at "david.e.cann" -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mo! Langdon Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:54 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] OT: To whom it may concern At 1:00 AM -0700 2/10/12, wyants@sasktel.net wrote: >OK, so now we have all this really unnecessary [expletive deleted] >"text" in the archives twice, which is two times too many, surely. Gadzooks!! I certainly hope you're feeling better by now... Slán, Mo! <--whose check is also in the mail! :-D -- <http://xri.net/=mobang> <snip>

On the subject of placing new subscribers on moderated status, it has been my experience that the trouble-makers usually have sent their malicious emails before I even received notice that they had subscribed. They subscribe and immediately send out their garbage. I still do place some on moderated when I feel suspicious (multiple subs in a short span of tme). Jim -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JYoung6180@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:28 PM To: darrellm@sprynet.com; listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] A BUNCH of new subs worth keeping an eye on Yup...I've stayed out of this until now but as the old saying goes there is more than one way to skin a cat (disclaimer: no harm came to any cats in the writing of this message <g>) and David's approach is one way to go about it. I don't think I'd have done it quite the same way...my own approach would probably have been a sit and wait and see what happens approach. I sometimes think David is TOO conscientious and he makes extra for himself, but I will defend his right to do what he did. ;) Joan

Yup...I've stayed out of this until now but as the old saying goes there is more than one way to skin a cat (disclaimer: no harm came to any cats in the writing of this message <g>) and David's approach is one way to go about it. I don't think I'd have done it quite the same way...my own approach would probably have been a sit and wait and see what happens approach. I sometimes think David is TOO conscientious and he makes extra for himself, but I will defend his right to do what he did. ;) Joan In a message dated 2/20/2012 2:24:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, darrellm@sprynet.com writes: Lee H.: David Mc. has been around a while as a list admin, and his approach is valid and reasonable. He wasn't treating this subscriber address any differently than he treats any other new subscriber, and what he does has no negative effect on that subscriber (except perhaps a short delay in posting their first message or two).

I'm still not sure why, but the email address rang a bell with me, so I googled the first half of it, and the results seem to indicate that she is a legitimate subscriber. Certainly not anonymous. Davy Cannon, Dorchester, Dorset I am willing to admit that this may well turn out to be nothing more than my own paranoia, but for most of this day I have sat here watching one and then another successful subs come in for the following addy: gwnhwyfer@gmail.com

On 2/20/2012 11:51 AM, Lee Hoffman wrote: > Lee Cognetta wrote: >> I think that this is disgraceful and totally agree that the easiest >> thing for the initial poster to have done was to simply email the person >> and try to verify that she has a valid interest in the lists she has >> joined. > > A reasonable suggestion. And one that might be used if the one > sending the verification request really thinks the questionable > address is legitimate. But if the subscriber IS a potentially > malicious then this gives then a valid email address to add to their list. ... Lee H.: David Mc. has been around a while as a list admin, and his approach is valid and reasonable. He wasn't treating this subscriber address any differently than he treats any other new subscriber, and what he does has no negative effect on that subscriber (except perhaps a short delay in posting their first message or two). What I find almost humorous, but definitely annoying, is the continuing *discussion* of this address -- as if we are likely to force new information to the surface by sheer volume of words. Throwaway e-mail addresses are available, for free. If this subscriber address is *THAT* interesting to you, get one of these throwaways and use it just long enough to verify whatever there is to verify. End of problem. Perhaps even end of discussion. One can always hope. No, I'm NOT suggesting this thread be involuntarily terminated. My Delete key still works, and an occasional comment in the discussion has proved worth reading. Perhaps this one? Perhaps not. Darrell