On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> wrote: > I had <nitathemystic@yahoo.com> subscribe to my list a while back. As usual I put her on immediate moderation. > In a few days the spam started. I get a spam email from nita just about every day. She should have seen that coming. Drew Smith

He has made no posts so far. Immediately after Diane (for whom I am acting as admin assistant on her lists) and I noticed he was subbing to a number of lists, we began placing him on moderation and have continued to do so with each new subscription. I was really concerned that he was trying to sub to a large number of lists slowly without rousing suspicion before inundating them all with spam messages. We will continue watching and moderating until he actually sends a message. It is possible he is interested in genealogy and simply subscribing to a bunch of lists for honest reasons. Time will tell, I guess. Jim -----Original Message----- From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mbousman Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:25 PM To: Wendy Howard; listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] Strange address subscribing to multiple lists I don't do that unless I have a problem going on. Subbing in the middle of night, nasty messages quickly posted. Love the list life:). You say he has subbed over the last few weeks. Has he made any posts? Margy

I had <nitathemystic@yahoo.com> subscribe to my list a while back. As usual I put her on immediate moderation. In a few days the spam started. I get a spam email from nita just about every day. Gene

I don't do that unless I have a problem going on. Subbing in the middle of night, nasty messages quickly posted. Love the list life:). You say he has subbed over the last few weeks. Has he made any posts? Margy -----Original Message----- From: Wendy Howard Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 6:30 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] Strange address subscribing to multiple lists He has subscribed to four of my lists over the past few weeks, which I've approved and put him on moderation immediately - as I do for all new members until they've posted and demonstrated that they're "genuine". By "genuine" I mean that I'm not fussy about what/how they post - anything about genealogy and on-topic for the list, which is not spam, passes my test. Most, including Migs, never post, of course. <sigh> Wendy Jim Jackson said the following on 8/03/2012 11:11 a.m.: > I have seen the address miguelmigsplus@gmail.com subscribe to quite a > number > of lists I admin as well as those I serve as an assistant admin. A Google > search of that address comes up with a performer or a night club and I am > not sure what to make of this. I guess I should have sent him a note > asking > about all the subs but have not as yet. > > Have any of you seen this address subscribing and do you know anything > about > it? > > Thanks, > > Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting, maybe he wants to be on WDYTYA and is getting ready lol! I deleted a sub from him just before seeing this. Some people go through the index subscribing to a bunch at the same time-He only joined 1 of mine. Louque a very small list with not a lot of action. The surname is mostly in Louisiana....a school teacher changed the last name from Lucas to Louque. A lot of that kind of changing went on in the early 1800's in the New Orleans and surrounding areas, most were from German to French spelling. Jean Lucas/Louque was from Venice. Margy -----Original Message----- From: Jim Jackson Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 5:11 PM To: listowners@rootsweb.com Subject: [LO] Strange address subscribing to multiple lists I have seen the address miguelmigsplus@gmail.com subscribe to quite a number of lists I admin as well as those I serve as an assistant admin. A Google search of that address comes up with a performer or a night club and I am not sure what to make of this. I guess I should have sent him a note asking about all the subs but have not as yet. Have any of you seen this address subscribing and do you know anything about it? Thanks, Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have seen the address miguelmigsplus@gmail.com subscribe to quite a number of lists I admin as well as those I serve as an assistant admin. A Google search of that address comes up with a performer or a night club and I am not sure what to make of this. I guess I should have sent him a note asking about all the subs but have not as yet. Have any of you seen this address subscribing and do you know anything about it? Thanks, Jim

Subscribers can not close gateways. Gateways are at the discretion of the list and/or board admins. When you see gcgateway@rootsweb.com in your email queue delete it unread. What may seem insane and endless to you may be of interest to others. Sincerely, Joan Asche On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Bradford H Miter <bradmiter@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am a subscriber to the MABERKSHI-L list and it is gatewayed to > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.count > ies.berkshire/5900.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx (this is an actual link o the board. > > > > Can one opt out of the gateway items or is it an all or nothing decision of > the List Owner?  This particular Board is having an insane number of entries > which are seemingly endless. > > > > "Need to Know" > > > > Brad Miter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just took a look at the board. There have been a couple of very active threads the past few days, but I wouldn't call it "insane" if they were discussing MY ancestors. :-) You can always filter or delete messages from the gateway. Nan On 3/7/2012 5:23 AM, JLA wrote: > Subscribers can not close gateways. Gateways are at the discretion of > the list and/or board admins. When you see gcgateway@rootsweb.com in > your email queue delete it unread. > > What may seem insane and endless to you may be of interest to others. > > Sincerely, > > Joan Asche > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Bradford H Miter > <bradmiter@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am a subscriber to the MABERKSHI-L list and it is gatewayed to >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.count >> ies.berkshire/5900.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx (this is an actual link o the board. >> >> >> >> Can one opt out of the gateway items or is it an all or nothing decision of >> the List Owner? This particular Board is having an insane number of entries >> which are seemingly endless. >> >> >> >> "Need to Know" >> >> >> >> Brad Miter >> >>

reverse is more accurate. whatever a message is posted on mailing list will not show up on board. Whatever's on board will be posted on mailing list. Not a two way method. From what I have seen on many mailing lists, more posts on boards gatewayed to the mailin lists than before. David Samuelsen On 3/6/2012 7:43 PM, Bradford H Miter wrote: > Hi, > > I am a subscriber to the MABERKSHI-L list and it is gatewayed to > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.count > ies.berkshire/5900.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx (this is an actual link o the board. > > > > Can one opt out of the gateway items or is it an all or nothing decision of > the List Owner? This particular Board is having an insane number of entries > which are seemingly endless. > > > > "Need to Know"

Hi, I am a subscriber to the MABERKSHI-L list and it is gatewayed to http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.count ies.berkshire/5900.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx (this is an actual link o the board. Can one opt out of the gateway items or is it an all or nothing decision of the List Owner? This particular Board is having an insane number of entries which are seemingly endless. "Need to Know" Brad Miter

I have admined the BELLIS surname list for some time now . Has very little traffic. So very surprised to find 12 message bounces and subscribers unsubbed in my mail this morning ? Were only 27 subscribers . Are now 24 as 3 more addresses unsubscribed in this evening mail Cant see any link in any of the email addresses .............. Was one @aol.com and another @btinternet.com Have had no emails from anyone asking why they were unsubscribed ? Haven't had anything like this happen for ages Should I just delete all or what ? Many thanks MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast Australia

On 3/6/2012 8:43 PM, Bradford H Miter wrote: > Hi, > > I am a subscriber to the MABERKSHI-L list and it is gatewayed to > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.massachusetts.count > ies.berkshire/5900.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx (this is an actual link o the board. > > > > Can one opt out of the gateway items or is it an all or nothing decision of > the List Owner? This particular Board is having an insane number of entries > which are seemingly endless. > > "Need to Know" > > Brad Miter Brad: As far as I know, the admin can decide to have the gateway open, or not; if it is open, to put the gateway address on the ban list, or not; and if the gateway is on ban, how to handle the messages that appear in pending. If you are the admin of the list, you can make choices that have a lot of effect on what gets through, but the only way to have some board messages hit the list and not others is to have the gateway open, put the gateway address on ban, and then slog through the pending messages. From a *user's* standpoint, the easiest thing is to set up a filter to send everything that has the gateway text in it to either a separate folder or just straight to Trash. Darrell

I night suggest sending the annoying messages to a separate folder for archiving...in case legal action against the annoyer is ever necessary...for evidence... -Sent via mobile phone with a teeny-tiny keyboard...please forgive any typos... "It must be remembered that the purpose of education is not to fill the minds of students with facts...it is to teach them to think" - Robert M. Hutchins (1899-1977) -----Original Message----- From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> Sender: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:56:00 To: 'Listowners List Posting'<listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [LO] blacklisting Good idea. I can do the same, that is, I can blacklist someone at the server level, sending their mail to a /null/ folder, in which case I'm not even aware they've attempted to message me, or I can just "Block" someone in Outlook. I do scan the titles in my Outlook "Junk" folder, before deleting the messages, because occasionally Outlook sends a valid message to the /Junk/ folder. But I only have to read the titles, not the messages. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:15 AM > To: 'Listowners List Posting' > Subject: Re: [LO] blacklisting > > On 3/5/2012 11:41 PM, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > > I have a member who is being annoyed offlist by another > subscriber. I > > told her there is nothing we can do about it (he is not mis- > behaving > > on the list). I was going to suggest she blacklist him in her > email > > client, but will that have the effect that his list messages will > then > > bounce back to me, as listadmin? > > > > Diana > > Diana: > > A better idea: have the annoyed subscriber set up a filter in her > own > e-mail client (*NOT* with her ISP -- on her own computer). Every e- > mail > client worth using has this capability. Something like "*if* From > equals > annoying@generic.com *then* move to Trash". Different software will > have > different ways of doing that. > > Result: the annoyed person does not see the offender's messages > unless > she looks in Trash, and RootsWeb does not bounce the purported > victim > off the list (regardless of how her ISP handles blacklisted > messages). > > Darrell > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What reasons were given for the bounces? The way MailMan works it could easily be that low traffic on your list kept some inactive addresses subbed to your list and a check of the archives shows posts coming through the gateway on Feb, 26, 27, and 28 and then two more on Mar. 5 and 6. There was only one post in Jan. -- so it is possible that the addresses went bad between the Jan. message and the 5 days of posts that came later. That would be enough for MailMan to unsub the addresses for bounces all at the same time. Joan In a message dated 3/6/2012 5:43:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, genknut@exemail.com.au writes: I have admined the BELLIS surname list for some time now . Has very little traffic. So very surprised to find 12 message bounces and subscribers unsubbed in my mail this morning ? Were only 27 subscribers . Are now 24 as 3 more addresses unsubscribed in this evening mail Cant see any link in any of the email addresses .............. Was one @aol.com and another @btinternet.com Have had no emails from anyone asking why they were unsubscribed ? Haven't had anything like this happen for ages Should I just delete all or what ? Many thanks MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast Australia

Good idea. I can do the same, that is, I can blacklist someone at the server level, sending their mail to a /null/ folder, in which case I'm not even aware they've attempted to message me, or I can just "Block" someone in Outlook. I do scan the titles in my Outlook "Junk" folder, before deleting the messages, because occasionally Outlook sends a valid message to the /Junk/ folder. But I only have to read the titles, not the messages. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: listowners-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:listowners- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:15 AM > To: 'Listowners List Posting' > Subject: Re: [LO] blacklisting > > On 3/5/2012 11:41 PM, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > > I have a member who is being annoyed offlist by another > subscriber. I > > told her there is nothing we can do about it (he is not mis- > behaving > > on the list). I was going to suggest she blacklist him in her > email > > client, but will that have the effect that his list messages will > then > > bounce back to me, as listadmin? > > > > Diana > > Diana: > > A better idea: have the annoyed subscriber set up a filter in her > own > e-mail client (*NOT* with her ISP -- on her own computer). Every e- > mail > client worth using has this capability. Something like "*if* From > equals > annoying@generic.com *then* move to Trash". Different software will > have > different ways of doing that. > > Result: the annoyed person does not see the offender's messages > unless > she looks in Trash, and RootsWeb does not bounce the purported > victim > off the list (regardless of how her ISP handles blacklisted > messages). > > Darrell > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Joan, I thought that might be what would happen. And, yes, I will suggest she complain to his ISP. In my experience, the best thing to do is ignore the message without responding. The abuser gets bored if they don't get a response. That's unwelcome advice to someone who's upset, of course. Diana From: JYoung6180@aol.com [mailto:JYoung6180@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:48 AM To: DianaGM@dgmweb.net; Listowners-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] blacklisting Diana- This can depend on her email provider and how they handle blocked mail. If they just discard it it won't do any harm. Mostly though, the blocked mail would come back as bounces and when this happens for 5 days total she would be unsubbed for bounces...so it isn't a good idea to suggest this. Perhaps a better solution would be to suggest she complain to his ISP about him being abusive to her if that is the case. Joan In a message dated 3/6/2012 12:45:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, DianaGM@dgmweb.net writes: I have a member who is being annoyed offlist by another subscriber. I told her there is nothing we can do about it (he is not mis-behaving on the list). I was going to suggest she blacklist him in her email client, but will that have the effect that his list messages will then bounce back to me, as listadmin? Diana

Diana- This can depend on her email provider and how they handle blocked mail. If they just discard it it won't do any harm. Mostly though, the blocked mail would come back as bounces and when this happens for 5 days total she would be unsubbed for bounces...so it isn't a good idea to suggest this. Perhaps a better solution would be to suggest she complain to his ISP about him being abusive to her if that is the case. Joan In a message dated 3/6/2012 12:45:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, DianaGM@dgmweb.net writes: I have a member who is being annoyed offlist by another subscriber. I told her there is nothing we can do about it (he is not mis-behaving on the list). I was going to suggest she blacklist him in her email client, but will that have the effect that his list messages will then bounce back to me, as listadmin? Diana

I have a member who is being annoyed offlist by another subscriber. I told her there is nothing we can do about it (he is not mis-behaving on the list). I was going to suggest she blacklist him in her email client, but will that have the effect that his list messages will then bounce back to me, as listadmin? Diana

On 3/5/2012 11:41 PM, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > I have a member who is being annoyed offlist by another subscriber. I > told her there is nothing we can do about it (he is not mis-behaving > on the list). I was going to suggest she blacklist him in her email > client, but will that have the effect that his list messages will then > bounce back to me, as listadmin? > > Diana Diana: A better idea: have the annoyed subscriber set up a filter in her own e-mail client (*NOT* with her ISP -- on her own computer). Every e-mail client worth using has this capability. Something like "*if* From equals annoying@generic.com *then* move to Trash". Different software will have different ways of doing that. Result: the annoyed person does not see the offender's messages unless she looks in Trash, and RootsWeb does not bounce the purported victim off the list (regardless of how her ISP handles blacklisted messages). Darrell

I will be only too glad to have any spontaneous discussion on my list. . Johan Dorey-Venter. Admin Dorey surname list. dorey@rootsweb.com