On 7/6/2012 17:26, Nelda Percival wrote: > > Mary, > On changing the password, you can't as they already have changed your password, the password question and answer..and the contact data. > > You see I was hi-jacked .. I had to have tech support delete the the new question they had submitted, disconnect the mobile contact to their cell number and the Question / answers, we did this five times before the hi-jackers gave up. In the mean time, they discarded my entire contact list, my folders of old messages from 10years of keeping them.. and all the important data I had stored in my "Paid for HOT MAIL ACCOUNT". > > Your message never gets to the member, because the email account forwards to the hi-jackers...not the member, the hijackers read the messages you send out. > ...I KNOW.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT...Nelda Nelda: this does not seem to be a universal truth; Gerhard and I have also seen cases where the subscriber (after a global unsub due to hacked email account) got all the unsub notices. So a more universal answer may be that it's worth sending the email (after moderating and/or unsubbing the address), but be aware that the subscriber MAY or MAY NOT see what you send. --pig

Hi Pig... Our Famous List Administrator! Universal unsub is best if you want to wait.. I don't..... But if the email account of a member has been hi-jacked they no longer have control of the email account. And that was what I was speaking about in this last message - not the spam messages to the mailing list... "On changing the password, you can't as they already have changed your password, the password question and answer..and the contact data. You see I was hi-jacked .. I had to have tech support delete the the new question they had submitted, disconnect the mobile contact to their cell number and the Question / answers, we did this five times before the hi-jackers gave up. In the mean time, they discarded my entire contact list, my folders of old messages from 10years of keeping them.. and all the important data I had stored in my "Paid for HOT MAIL ACCOUNT". > > > > Your message never gets to the member, because the email account forwards to the hi-jackers...not the member, the hijackers read the messages you send out. > > ...I KNOW.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT...Nelda"

*SIGH* There is only one "e" in "Ancestry". Yes, I know it is not the end of the world. No, I am not offended -- well, maybe a tiny bit annoyed -- but if I do a search in the archives for "ancestry.com" guess what message thread I WON'T find? Darrell

Hi Dan? You have a stray Dan on the end of the url Try <http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-05/ancestry-com-said-to-work-with-qatalyst-partners-to-find-buyers.html> It is rather old news though Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/07/2012 16:55, Dan JM wrote: > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-05/ancestry-com-said-to-work-with-qatalyst-partners-to-find-buyers.htmlDan

At 3:26 PM -0600 7/6/12, Dan JM <mygenrw2@gmail.com> wrote: >interesting lol;D >Some times the link over rides the next sentence even tho a return is used. >I should have seen it. <snip> If you enclose the URL in pointy brackets, as Nivard did, you won't get that problem. Slán, Mo! -- <http://xri.net/=mobang>

Mary, On changing the password, you can't as they already have changed your password, the password question and answer..and the contact data. You see I was hi-jacked .. I had to have tech support delete the the new question they had submitted, disconnect the mobile contact to their cell number and the Question / answers, we did this five times before the hi-jackers gave up. In the mean time, they discarded my entire contact list, my folders of old messages from 10years of keeping them.. and all the important data I had stored in my "Paid for HOT MAIL ACCOUNT". Your message never gets to the member, because the email account forwards to the hi-jackers...not the member, the hijackers read the messages you send out. ...I KNOW.. BEEN THERE DONE THAT...Nelda Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. ~~~~~~~~ My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us My Business: http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz With lists to the blogs. > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:07:14 -0400 > From: mdtaffet@twcny.rr.com > To: nelda_percival@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [LO] Confirmation of removal request ignored > > Yep -- those are the ones that I moderate. No need to unsub them. I > notify them that their account has been hijacked and suggest that they > change the password. Several of my subscribers have been able to > recover control of their accounts and are no longer moderated. > > -- Mary > > > On 7/6/2012 4:39 PM, Nelda Percival wrote: > > > > Agreed moderation is the way to go if.. it is just a member who has incorrectly sent a spam type email. > > > > What the admin. who started this conversation, explained ws multiple mailings from the member's email address, that is a hy-jacked account... > > > > Unsub is my way to go if it is a hi-jacked email account and you can tell the difference... multiple - Sex ads, growth pills, one liners...with URLs...ect..ect ect.. > > > > nelda > > > > > > > > Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. > > ~~~~~~~~ > > My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm > > > > GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us > > > > My Business: http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz With lists to the blogs. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Agreed moderation is the way to go if.. it is just a member who has incorrectly sent a spam type email. What the admin. who started this conversation, explained ws multiple mailings from the member's email address, that is a hy-jacked account... Unsub is my way to go if it is a hi-jacked email account and you can tell the difference... multiple - Sex ads, growth pills, one liners...with URLs...ect..ect ect.. nelda Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. ~~~~~~~~ My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us My Business: http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz With lists to the blogs.

I actually prefer moderating the person rather than unsubbing them. Staff will globally unsub them if they feel it is necessary after you report the spam to them and initiate archives removal. If I moderate the person I can stop them from posting but if I unsub them and they have no clue why they got unsubbed (and even if you let them know they may not read the email), they will probably just resubscribe and then the spam can start up all over again...they won't be moderated unless or until you manually check off the box again...allowing for a time lapse when new spam can hit the list from the same person. Joan In a message dated 7/6/2012 12:45:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nelda_percival@hotmail.com writes: Hi, The first action to take when a member of a mailing list's address is sending the list spam, is to unsubscribe them. Then you write the help desk asking for removal of the spam from your archives. You will need to provide the url of the spam messages to make it more convenient for the help desk to comply. On "Weekends" and "Holidays " There is no response from the help desk, your messages will be answered M-F. Nelda Percival

Hi, The first action to take when a member of a mailing list's address is sending the list spam, is to unsubscribe them. Then you write the help desk asking for removal of the spam from your archives. You will need to provide the url of the spam messages to make it more convenient for the help desk to comply. On "Weekends" and "Holidays " There is no response from the help desk, your messages will be answered M-F. Nelda Percival Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together. ~~~~~~~~ My Genealogy: http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/index.htm GeneticGenealogy: http://www.geneticsand.us Gilpin Worldwide Project: http://www.gilpingenetics.us My Business: http://www.aircastles-internet-marketing.biz With lists to the blogs.

yeah, old and still no buyers. David S. On 7/6/2012 10:06 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > It is rather old news though

interesting lol;D Some times the link over rides the next sentence even tho a return is used. I should have seen it. Any how. Interesting topic. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [LO] Ancestery . com for sale > Hi Dan? > > You have a stray Dan on the end of the url > > Try > <http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-05/ancestry-com-said-to-work-with-qatalyst-partners-to-find-buyers.html> > > It is rather old news though > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 06/07/2012 16:55, Dan JM wrote: >> >> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-05/ancestry-com-said-to-work-with-qatalyst-partners-to-find-buyers.htmlDan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

TonyM It was a Holiday in the states so staff would not finish removal from archive. If you are list mom, you can put the member on mod or removal Paul -----Original Message----- From: TonyM <Horler@one-name.org> Hi Listowners, Is there a problem with Rootsweb? I have for two days been trying to confirm a removal request from Eng-Somerset list so far nothing has occurred.! The sp-m is still arriving from the infected address -- Regards, TonyM Somersetlad@gmail.com

Why haven't you unsubbed the address, or placed it on moderation? Nan On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:02 AM, TonyM <Horler@one-name.org> wrote: > Hi Listowners, > > Is there a problem with Rootsweb? > I have for two days been trying to confirm a removal request from > Eng-Somerset list > so far nothing has occurred.! > The sp-m is still arriving from the infected address > > > -- > Regards, > TonyM Somersetlad@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Changing the digest size will not fix the Subject problem. If I can't take someone off Digest mode, then I'll have to use moderation to get them to comply. But now it dawns on me that I can also reduce the message size to snag those people who are not on Digest mode, but backquote multiple messages, including multiple copies of the list's footer. Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions, Diana From: JYoung6180@aol.com [mailto:JYoung6180@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 10:38 AM To: DianaGM@dgmweb.net; Listowners-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LO] Digest mode It isn't up to us as admins to force our subscribers to subscribe in one mode or the other. RootsWeb offers digest mode and so must we. If your list gets very little traffic then any quoted digest shouldn't be very long either. So not much of a problem. You can manage lengthy digest quotes by setting a very low message size and then when a longer quoted digest gets stuck in pending requests you can remind the person why this happened. Joan

Hi Joan and Nan, . Thank you for your quick response. . The problem seems to be with my service provider's proxy server. I have logged a fault with them. . Thank you, Johan.

Hi All, . The Admin Interface seems to have been changed. The "Let me in" button seems to have been replaced by a text box with the words "Let me in..." in it, and no button to log in. . Has anyone else encountered the same problem? . Greetings, Johan Dorey-Venter.

Diana, My solution seems to be working relatively well for the Digest Mode posters. Go to the Digest Options for your list and put the following in the Digest Header: ** NOTE ** When replying to a message in the digest please do two things: 1. Change the 'Subject' to that of the message you are replying to. 2. Delete all the messages above and below the one you are concerned with. Thank You - List Administrator This does not help the back and forth banter of some threads where the single message 'replies' get longer and longer. When this occurs, I have a longer email that I post to the list containing similar instructions such as above. So far I have only had to post it once this year. I'd be happy to send it to anyone interested in having it. Brad Miter Today's Topics: 1. Digest mode (Diana Gale Matthiesen) Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 06:09:49 -0400 From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> Subject: [LO] Digest mode To: <Listowners-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <036001cd59cd$2580acd0$70820670$@dgmweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Are we allowed to restrict the use of Digest mode on our lists? I am sooooooooo tired of reminding people to trim their backquotes to the *one* message they are responding to and to change the Subject of their reply to the Subject of the message. This isn't happening every once in awhile, it's happening every few days. I've even moderated one person, refusing to let his messages through unless he fixes them - and he continues to forget. My list just isn't that busy. There's no need to subscribe in Digest mode, and even if my list were busy, there are better ways to deal with it than Digest mode. I truly wish Digest mode did not exist, and I would like to not allow people to subscribe in that mode. Diana

If it is a proxy server issue (I've seen that with AOL also) you can FORCE a refresh of the page and that should load a correct updated page for you. Not just a REFRESH...a FORCED refresh. Joan In a message dated 7/4/2012 2:24:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, doreyventer@gmail.com writes: Hi Joan and Nan, . Thank you for your quick response. . The problem seems to be with my service provider's proxy server. I have logged a fault with them. . Thank you, Johan.

On 7/4/2012 12:30 PM, Johan Dorey-Venter wrote: > Hi All, > . > The Admin Interface seems to have been changed. The "Let me in" button > seems to have been replaced by a text box with the words "Let me > in..." in it, and no button to log in. > . > Has anyone else encountered the same problem? > . > Greetings, > Johan Dorey-Venter Johan: Just checked, 2013 UT I think (2:13 p.m. Central Daylight U.S.). Worked as it always has, in recent years at least. Darrell

Sounds like a browser issue but I wouldn't know for sure. Whatever the cause you can get around it by logging into MyAccount and clicking the link to go to your admin pages. OR...create bookmarks for yourself with your password included like I did. For example: http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/admin/listname/?adminpw=password change listname to YOUR list's name and change password to YOUR password and use whchever server your list is housed on. Joan In a message dated 7/4/2012 1:32:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, doreyventer@gmail.com writes: Hi All, . The Admin Interface seems to have been changed. The "Let me in" button seems to have been replaced by a text box with the words "Let me in..." in it, and no button to log in. . Has anyone else encountered the same problem? . Greetings, Johan Dorey-Venter. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message