It would be impossible to have TWO copies of the same address subbed to a list---if you tried to add an address already subbed you will get an error message telling you the subscription failed and the address is already subbed. Joan In a message dated 1/28/2013 9:54:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pleblan@aim.com writes: David Is there one or two copies of your address in the member list? Have you subed or unsubed since change to mailman? When the merged the two lists Individual & digest they might not have checked for duplicates. Paul

David Is there one or two copies of your address in the member list? Have you subed or unsubed since change to mailman? When the merged the two lists Individual & digest they might not have checked for duplicates. Paul

Craig, I AM the list admin. I'm not at fault, and Joan has helped me a lot. So yes, somebody here has helped me. Thank you, Joan. I'm happy to take this offline...which I will. Just hope you don't have the same problem someday and can't find the resolution in the archives. At 08:13 PM 1/28/2013, Craig Kilby wrote: >I think you should take this up with the list administrator of your >group. Whining here about how you or anyone else suddenly and >inexplicably got unsubscribed is a waste of time. The problem is >CLEARLY on the end of who is administering your list. Nobody here >can fix your problem, whatever it may be. If it is really a problem >with rootsweb staff gone crazy and on purpose screwing with your >list, then take it up with them. > >Craig Kilby > >On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Mary Richardson wrote: > > > Really? We've each had one addr subbed to both modes for years and > > have always received both list and digest posts. Furthermore, we > > have a number of listers who are also subbed with one address in both > > modes. If Rootsweb is cracking down on this, why didn't our other > > listers who are double-subbed get unsubbed from digest (or list for > > that matter)? > > > > > > At 07:49 PM 1/28/2013, you wrote: > >> Hmmm...then I assume you have more than one email address and one is > >> subbed in L mode and the other in D mode? I mention this because you > >> cannot subscribe the SAME email addres in more than one mode. > >> > >> Joan > >> > >> In a message dated 1/28/2013 7:48:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >> mrichson@ix.netcom.com writes: > >> Thanks, Joan, but no. We've always been subbed with our private > >> addresses in both modes. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, I'm surprised that it would be working for you at all in that way; it's not supposed to. Ever since the mailing list software was changed from the previous software system (was it called Smartlist?? ...I've forgotten) to the MailMan software, a change which happened YEARS ago, an email address can only be subscribed in EITHER regular mail mode OR digest mode. Not both. That's why most admins have subscribed the -admin account in digest mode, so that they can receive it without having to have a 2nd address subscribed just to get it. If you've never done that, and you've continued to receive both modes, that would seem to be counter to what we've been told by Rootsweb as to how the lists work. With the old system (Smartlist??) there were two separate subscriber lists -- one for regular list mode and one for digest mode, so the same address could be subscribed in both modes. With the MailMan software, there is a single subscriber list that serves both regular mail mode and digest mode. If the "digest" button is checked, the address receives the digest. If the "digest" button isn't checked, the address receives regular mail mode. Because regular mail mode vs. digest is essentially the result of a toggle switch, you really shouldn't be able to receive both at the same address. -- Another Mary On 1/28/2013 7:58 PM, Mary Richardson wrote: > Really? We've each had one addr subbed to both modes for years and > have always received both list and digest posts. Furthermore, we > have a number of listers who are also subbed with one address in both > modes. If Rootsweb is cracking down on this, why didn't our other > listers who are double-subbed get unsubbed from digest (or list for > that matter)? > > > At 07:49 PM 1/28/2013, you wrote: >> Hmmm...then I assume you have more than one email address and one is >> subbed in L mode and the other in D mode? I mention this because you >> cannot subscribe the SAME email addres in more than one mode. >> >> Joan >> >> In a message dated 1/28/2013 7:48:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> mrichson@ix.netcom.com writes: >> Thanks, Joan, but no. We've always been subbed with our private >> addresses in both modes.

It isn't a question of RootsWeb "cracking down" on anything. Years ago...quite a few years ago in fact, RootsWeb switched over from the archaic SmartList system to MailMan to manage list mail. It isn't possible based upon the way MailMan functions to have a single address subbed in more than one mode. SmartList treated L and D modes as if they were separate lists. MailMan treats L and D mode as separate modes of the SAME list---and to prevent duplicate subscriptions the same address CANNOT subscribe to in both modes. So you haven't been subbed to digests for quite a few years if you had been using a single address to subscribe. I just checked a few of my other lists and the "admin" addresses are subbed (for me) as they always were...so somehow the one list I had checked before must have become unsubbed at some point...so all is well. That is how many admins get around the problems of not being able to subscribe a single address in both modes. Subscribe LISTNAME-ADMIN@rootsweb.com in D mode and since this forwards to your private email address you will receive both L and D mail at your preferred single address. Joan In a message dated 1/28/2013 7:58:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrichson@ix.netcom.com writes: Really? We've each had one addr subbed to both modes for years and have always received both list and digest posts. Furthermore, we have a number of listers who are also subbed with one address in both modes. If Rootsweb is cracking down on this, why didn't our other listers who are double-subbed get unsubbed from digest (or list for that matter)?

Really? We've each had one addr subbed to both modes for years and have always received both list and digest posts. Furthermore, we have a number of listers who are also subbed with one address in both modes. If Rootsweb is cracking down on this, why didn't our other listers who are double-subbed get unsubbed from digest (or list for that matter)? At 07:49 PM 1/28/2013, you wrote: >Hmmm...then I assume you have more than one email address and one is >subbed in L mode and the other in D mode? I mention this because you >cannot subscribe the SAME email addres in more than one mode. > >Joan > >In a message dated 1/28/2013 7:48:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >mrichson@ix.netcom.com writes: >Thanks, Joan, but no. We've always been subbed with our private >addresses in both modes.

Hmmm...then I assume you have more than one email address and one is subbed in L mode and the other in D mode? I mention this because you cannot subscribe the SAME email addres in more than one mode. Joan In a message dated 1/28/2013 7:48:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrichson@ix.netcom.com writes: Thanks, Joan, but no. We've always been subbed with our private addresses in both modes.

Thanks, Joan, but no. We've always been subbed with our private addresses in both modes. At 07:45 PM 1/28/2013, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: >Were you by any chance subscribed to digest mode under your list >admin address? I know that is how I have been subbed to my digests >and I find I'm removed as well. Maybe some overly ambitious staffer >removed those addresses en masse? > >Joan > >In a message dated 1/28/2013 7:42:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >mrichson@ix.netcom.com writes: >We three SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list owners are subbed in list and digest >mode to make sure we don't miss anything. Apparently we were >unsubbed from digest mode some time yesterday. Thankfully, we all >received the most recent digest (clearly before we were unsubbed) and >noticed that we hadn't received the more recent posts by list mode >either. Something's awry. > >Per Membership Management, we found that we were still subbed in list >mode (despite not receiving several posts), and our digest >subscriptions were gone. I've resubbed us in digest mode. What's up? > >Mary Richardson >SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list admin

Were you by any chance subscribed to digest mode under your list admin address? I know that is how I have been subbed to my digests and I find I'm removed as well. Maybe some overly ambitious staffer removed those addresses en masse? Joan In a message dated 1/28/2013 7:42:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrichson@ix.netcom.com writes: We three SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list owners are subbed in list and digest mode to make sure we don't miss anything. Apparently we were unsubbed from digest mode some time yesterday. Thankfully, we all received the most recent digest (clearly before we were unsubbed) and noticed that we hadn't received the more recent posts by list mode either. Something's awry. Per Membership Management, we found that we were still subbed in list mode (despite not receiving several posts), and our digest subscriptions were gone. I've resubbed us in digest mode. What's up? Mary Richardson SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list admin

False. I am still getting both modes, even as admin - same email address.. I also checked and rechecked Mailman subscriptions. David SAMPUBCO On 1/28/2013 6:24 PM, Mary D. Taffet wrote: > Ever since the mailing list software was changed from the previous > software system (was it called Smartlist?? ...I've forgotten) to the > MailMan software, a change which happened YEARS ago, an email address > can only be subscribed in EITHER regular mail mode OR digest mode. Not > both.

We three SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list owners are subbed in list and digest mode to make sure we don't miss anything. Apparently we were unsubbed from digest mode some time yesterday. Thankfully, we all received the most recent digest (clearly before we were unsubbed) and noticed that we hadn't received the more recent posts by list mode either. Something's awry. Per Membership Management, we found that we were still subbed in list mode (despite not receiving several posts), and our digest subscriptions were gone. I've resubbed us in digest mode. What's up? Mary Richardson SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE list admin

Thanks for the replies it appears to be just as I thought so destruction it is Regards Patrick Williams Hi Folks I have just had a request come through for one of my quiet lists, it is from Content-Type@lists2.rootsweb.com asking to subscribe. Needless to say suspicions are aroused and the request is on defer. Has anyone else come across this type of request or is it another ploy from some of our dubious characters out there. Regards Patrick Williams

Hi Folks I have just had a request come through for one of my quiet lists, it is from Content-Type@lists2.rootsweb.com asking to subscribe. Needless to say suspicions are aroused and the request is on defer. Has anyone else come across this type of request or is it another ploy from some of our dubious characters out there. Regards Patrick Williams

I get one every couple of weeks It is "trash" address that a spammer picked up that has the words "subscribe"in the right place. We do not see the email or it would be easier to screen.. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Williams Hi Folks I have just had a request come through for one of my quiet lists, it is from Content-Type@lists2.rootsweb.com asking to subscribe. Needless to say suspicions are aroused and the request is on defer. Has anyone else come across this type of request or is it another ploy from some of our dubious characters out there. Regards Patrick Williams

Cathy- I believe this is how it is supposed to work. You are not having YOUR password sent to you but rather having the password RESET (and the temp password sent to the admin address or record). So you can safely change it back to the one you had been using if you want to. Joan In a message dated 1/22/2013 7:15:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, chorn0591@optimum.net writes: I just had a strange thing happen to me with the two mailing lists which I administer. I received email notifications that some emails sent to the list were being held for me to review. However, when I clicked on the link and then entered my password, nothing happened. At first I thought that possibly the Rootsweb servers were having problems. So, I decided to wait a day. I went back again yesterday and still could not access my maintenance page. This morning when I tried to go back in and was unable to do so, I then requested that my passwords be sent to me for both lists. Much to my surprise, totally unknown passwords were sent to me. I have since gone in and changed the passwords to something I’ll remember. What could have changed my passwords? I wrote to Rootsweb customer service and received an email back from a guy who said that he would have been the only one to change the passwords there and he didn’t do it. I know I didn ’t do it and no one else has my passwords. I also checked my Norton Anti-Virus and it’s up to date. Anyone have this problem? Any ideas about this? Thanks, I’m confused, Cathy-0

I just had a strange thing happen to me with the two mailing lists which I administer. I received email notifications that some emails sent to the list were being held for me to review. However, when I clicked on the link and then entered my password, nothing happened. At first I thought that possibly the Rootsweb servers were having problems. So, I decided to wait a day. I went back again yesterday and still could not access my maintenance page. This morning when I tried to go back in and was unable to do so, I then requested that my passwords be sent to me for both lists. Much to my surprise, totally unknown passwords were sent to me. I have since gone in and changed the passwords to something I’ll remember. What could have changed my passwords? I wrote to Rootsweb customer service and received an email back from a guy who said that he would have been the only one to change the passwords there and he didn’t do it. I know I didn’t do it and no one else has my passwords. I also checked my Norton Anti-Virus and it’s up to date. Anyone have this problem? Any ideas about this? Thanks, I’m confused, Cathy-0

On 1/22/2013 9:13 AM, singhals wrote: > QUOTE > The attached message was received as a bounce, but either > the bounce > format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be > extracted > from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all > unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). > END QUOTE > > The attached message was the automated "You have been > unsubbed..." after I unsubbed a member who was changing his > email addy. > > IIRC, I just ignore these because there's nothing I can do > about 'em? > > If I'm wrong, please include instructions. (g) > > Cheryl Cheryl: You are correct, ignore it. Darrell

QUOTE The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). END QUOTE The attached message was the automated "You have been unsubbed..." after I unsubbed a member who was changing his email addy. IIRC, I just ignore these because there's nothing I can do about 'em? If I'm wrong, please include instructions. (g) Cheryl

Hi Lynne, The first one, clearly suspect. In the case of the second (Patricia WARTELL) what do you mean by 'came in for subscribing'? If it came to your '-request' address with 'subscribe' in the subject and/or body, then I would think it unlikely to be a spammer or similar. Perhaps approve the request but place the address on moderation. Regards, Ian MARR at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 11m above sea level This message can be considered to be in the public domain. The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~marr/ Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://home.vicnet.net.au/~marr/Weather/ Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam52@sampubco.com> To: <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [LO] Anyone seen these???? > first one - clearly there's a spammer with bad database of email > addresses to spam with. > > second one - she got hacked. > > David Samuelsen > > On 1/16/2013 7:57 PM, Lynne Leflore-Trammel wrote: >> I just had 2 requests come in together for subscribing. Am wondering >> if anyone has seen either one? Are they connected together? >> >> Content-Type@lists3.rootsweb.com >> >> Patricia WARTELL <pwartell@aol.com> >> >> Just staying alert. Thanks. >> >> Lynne >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LISTOWNERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

no, very different person. Barry Ewell is the one who is based in Utah being sued by Cyndi Howell of Cyndi's List. The one who is mysterious owner of USAncestry, etc is not even in Utah at all. David Samuelsen On 1/17/2013 4:31 AM, JLA wrote: > I think this same person that is being sued by Cindi's List? > > Joan