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    1. [LO]Re: Headers for Held Messages
    2. James

    3. Curious about the part that says This. X-MailFrom: [email protected] X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: max-size X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 4:13 PM Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been gradually posting to the lists I own to advise people to > register as necessary, but mainly to initiate archives. > > I have discovered that when I ask to "show headers" or "view source" > for a held post, the headers that are shown are those on the > Ancestry.com servers, which are no help at all for verifying the > origin, and therefore the possible legitimacy of the held post. > > For example, my own post from pjroots to [email protected] was > held for reason n/a and the "headers" are below. If this wasn't "me," > how would I know it was a valid post? > > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is 74.6.132.253) > smtp.mailfrom=att.net; rootsweb.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified) > header.d=att.net;rootsweb.com; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none > header.from=att.net; > Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: att.net does not designate > permitted sender hosts) > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; > s=s1024; t=1523314301; > bh=S5IiiackwxYsv7c7ncmdWESnlkt92a6ZfLwCDuEBduA=; > h=Date:To:From:Subject:From:Subject; > > b=1v/QbyaCgFhZSHA2d2fXMMgnieHjTsygpAU7FJlAySPWHZCs2FCKJm/33lzsU+c8uhz7amO3Tty3YGdj0qKpQx8NICzQvUoNkCTmxgQPOvVQXTUTJR4nVMCyWHDBnULqAS5/DO5NLNtHJ1zMxYbXZ1MO8h+YgsoWStjSyjhO7QM= > X-YMail-OSG: > J__1KRMVM1mt0B_2jqq3WAZMN8RHoJUMLj8w_7unv0L4KwjVc_vM1En00MZSv8r > > ZKnuXBZ8RvF9z5_RNfq8fxwtw5oNr_3bAzmRuscwv82MlSpsilk8p.8vrFQnUCQuX7q6IoG0rUWa > > yUSVW9Jo8cYqF54F6BThv6JcapZWkEcvDkFWZzq2ryh9_vWQhRC5JXe6.RZ6BAO0v4aUTxp4PycH > > F3K5uTc9e3rdMqkOGcksXUbZWr.FQzstg2tc87DWBQJlbSPEk4si.Y6jo5Fz55Z6pG4yWCH2qXgV > > N0t9EmZncSM1.xevAxUlrBQ7RZEDQrniocfrGvQB5vz6qLXIFw._4bujyf1Fpf3esqx_KNRYW1sh > > h3ANy25HwFRoV36ux6JjuXBVW2MxPf2ilcVCif9kxK5u0m5_l7t5JzlDGQOrBdI_gMcOxV_qcA9V > > aipgyTt2t6ayAYMlY9EpUzK8jU6Eon5msKIW.E77r3n3GZx8msTX2CDm.nGDaOu_UQlE3Wk5Bgw8 > BcI5ZL3WEctcoOS46lpptUGKU6A-- > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 18:51:15 -0400 > To: [email protected] > From: Pat Asher <[email protected]> > Subject: Lists are back > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > Message-ID: > < > [email protected]d.protection.outlook.com > > > X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0 > X-EOPTenantAttributedMessage: fcf82d21-fd42-46be-a4f5-537daf908555:0 > X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: > > CIP:74.6.132.253;IPV:NLI;CTRY:US;EFV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;SFS:(8156002)(2980300002)(428003)(199004)(189003)(86362001)(26005)(50466002)(82202002)(34766002)(6916009)(74316002)(7116003)(305945005)(5660300001)(7636002)(31696002)(87436003)(126002)(356003)(105586002)(486006)(336012)(956004)(476003)(6666003)(560934005)(4720700003)(1096003)(63266004)(67846002)(23726003)(33896004)(16586007)(2361001)(8676002)(246002)(16003)(31686004)(47776003)(50226002)(3480700004)(2351001)(6966003)(6306002)(9686003)(106466001)(90706001);DIR:INB;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BY2PR16MB0327;H: > sonic314-17.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com;FPR:;SPF:None;LANG:en;PTR: > sonic314.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com;A:1;MX:1; > X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > > 1;DM3NAM05FT044;1:/aWJwu1eX84zSHt4xWelbOWjY3Xf1lVRf6vonvKYwvAzJJsWvyXyXq0gWDWGCWcMNDgGOE2NDACdFpyWqDoA952U0O99UIifU9+z2Qt++QURJx8cmS7/BtJmJh71/5M8 > X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email > X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: > 92072e6c-51b1-48b3-3640-08d59e6c760b > X-Microsoft-Antispam: > > UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(7020095)(5600026)(4604075)(4605076)(4608076)(1401123)(8001031)(1414027)(71702078);SRVR:BY2PR16MB0327; > X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > > 1;DM3NAM05FT044;1:/aWJwu1eX84zSHt4xWelbOWjY3Xf1lVRf6vonvKYwvAzJJsWvyXyXq0gWDWGCWcMNDgGOE2NDACdFpyWqDoA952U0O99UIifU9+z2Qt++QURJx8cmS7/BtJmJh71/5M8 > X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: BY2PR16MB0327: > X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > > 1;DM3NAM05FT044;1:/aWJwu1eX84zSHt4xWelbOWjY3Xf1lVRf6vonvKYwvAzJJsWvyXyXq0gWDWGCWcMNDgGOE2NDACdFpyWqDoA952U0O99UIifU9+z2Qt++QURJx8cmS7/BtJmJh71/5M8 > X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:(239618021253191); > X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: > > BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(2401047)(8121501046)(1430347)(1431041)(1432103)(1551027)(9101536074)(3002001)(10201501046)(3231221)(902075)(913088)(7045084)(944500087)(944510158)(944921075)(946801075)(946901075)(52103095)(52105095)(52106095)(52401095)(52601095)(52606095)(52505095)(52406095)(93006095)(93005095)(1610001)(8301001075)(8301003183)(9300000083)(9301000104)(201708071742011);SRVR:BY2PR16MB0327;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR16MB0327; > X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > > 1;DM3NAM05FT044;1:/aWJwu1eX84zSHt4xWelbOWjY3Xf1lVRf6vonvKYwvAzJJsWvyXyXq0gWDWGCWcMNDgGOE2NDACdFpyWqDoA952U0O99UIifU9+z2Qt++QURJx8cmS7/BtJmJh71/5M8 > X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > > 1;DM3NAM05FT044;1:/aWJwu1eX84zSHt4xWelbOWjY3Xf1lVRf6vonvKYwvAzJJsWvyXyXq0gWDWGCWcMNDgGOE2NDACdFpyWqDoA952U0O99UIifU9+z2Qt++QURJx8cmS7/BtJmJh71/5M8 > X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: > > tLSnXlKy0igTNxtFueTwCqBlthrWlnRKdfi89ecu+IZrkekqtwa3Z5d40n5gUujTcuVZuu3asu20dCESEGYE0znvmLT+CJbMdqpxMvMzCgVKLlhAwkKI9N4eEed3dnHJCEJrays6vLpYosUq/xDw9qSHF61UAPRgLKEntgDn6w9vyBhEoBpWS+2uCNw2XU5mcL8r8QnJQV2lB4bwQxbrz2WfYKQq6k16Srz7RAO22mwpuDbJ9JjlHBr0A5u0w/6W6xVTn5zkCgQ8y8aoC0XlWTW4vjHvBct1plMK9BwiqswnpzcwMon3XOulBmJvf2tkdlNepvpbRmpGuZ61mU2WvZCIbC3vR++CRdIEN4ub837nmsbwH5Dpu5QbFFb7tXh6heiwiFLlDo211FdbPvnTYdD9RPsoOZEtOTvJp5Ygn/c= > X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > > 1;DM3NAM05FT044;1:/aWJwu1eX84zSHt4xWelbOWjY3Xf1lVRf6vonvKYwvAzJJsWvyXyXq0gWDWGCWcMNDgGOE2NDACdFpyWqDoA952U0O99UIifU9+z2Qt++QURJx8cmS7/BtJmJh71/5M8 > SpamDiagnosticOutput: 1:99 > SpamDiagnosticMetadata: NSPM > X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > > 1;DM3NAM05FT044;1:/aWJwu1eX84zSHt4xWelbOWjY3Xf1lVRf6vonvKYwvAzJJsWvyXyXq0gWDWGCWcMNDgGOE2NDACdFpyWqDoA952U0O99UIifU9+z2Qt++QURJx8cmS7/BtJmJh71/5M8 > X-OriginatorOrg: ancestryonline.onmicrosoft.com > X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2018 22:51:41.5021 > (UTC) > X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: > 92072e6c-51b1-48b3-3640-08d59e6c760b > X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: fcf82d21-fd42-46be-a4f5-537daf908555 > X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Internet > X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR16MB0327 > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-OriginalClientIPAddress: 74.6.132.253 > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-AuthSource: > DM3NAM05FT044.eop-nam05.prod.protection.outlook.com > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-AuthAs: Anonymous > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-TransportTrafficType: Email > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-TransportTrafficSubType: > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-SCL: 1 > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-Antispam-ScanContext: > DIR:Incoming;SFV:NSPM;SKIP:0; > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-Journaled-To-Recipients: > [email protected] > X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-Processed-By-Journaling: Journal Agent > X-OrganizationHeadersPreserved: BY2PR16MB0327.namprd16.prod.outlook.com > X-MailFrom: [email protected] > X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: max-size > X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; approved; emergency; loop; > banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; > administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; news-moderation; > no-subject; suspicious-header > Message-ID-Hash: ZZ275FIL52RA5REFWGSPU7HUEIK5JKWZ > X-Message-ID-Hash: ZZ275FIL52RA5REFWGSPU7HUEIK5JKWZ > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. 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    04/10/2018 07:27:25
    1. [LO]Re: Headers for Held Messages
    2. Lynne Klein

    3. I hope that secret will soon be revealed to us. Subscribers are returning entire digests to the list as well as posts containing the last 4, 5, 6, etc., messages along with all of the crazy long footers. Lynne On 4/9/2018 9:38 PM, Gene Phillips wrote: > Apparently there is a secret parameter in each list that determines the size of the message that can be sent. I replied to the same digest that a subscriber did and my message was held for approval. I created a new message with only a couple of lines and it came through. > I looked through all the settings and the only think related to size was Digest Threshold. I increased it to a size that was larger then the message, but I still got held for approval. > > > Gene >

    04/10/2018 06:33:06
    1. [LO]Re: Digest issue
    2. Sherry Landa

    3. Thanks Paul. I checked (she's in Australia so we have some time delay) and she is already subscribed in plain text digest, so it's not that. On 9 April 2018 at 20:11, Paul L LeBlanc <[email protected]> wrote: > Wrong digest mode? > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/yourlist.rootsweb.com/members/subscriber/ > change yourlist to your list's name lowercase > > selet the member > > Member options > > Delivery mode > besides regular > there are three digest modes > Please change them to plain text > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sherry Landa > > Thanks Mary, > > It's ood to know it's not just me! > > On 9 April 2018 at 15:19, Mary Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: >> I have the same problem. Some digests come to me in one long string as if >> there are no line breaks. Other digests look normal. Had this problem >> before the new Mailman, so I don't know if it's necessarily related to the >> new software. >> >> Mary Richardson >> >> >> At 08:22 AM 4/9/2018, Sherry Landa wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone tell me if I am alone at British-Jewry with this issue or >>> if it is everywhere? Is there anything _I_ need to do? This digest >>> contained ONLY emails from me that were in plain text and went >>> straight through to the list. >>> >

    04/09/2018 11:59:32
    1. [LO]Re: Mailing List Admins who are also Board Admins
    2. Valorie Zimmerman

    3. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote: > Once upon a time, when we logged into Rootsweb, we saw our own universal "Rootsweb of Things". Lists we were subscribed to, list we "owned", boards we subscribed to, boards we admined, web pages > we admined (Genweb mostly) and a few assorted other things. From that page, we went to wherever in the Rootsweb/Ancestry universe we wanted to go. In the best of all possible worlds, we would need > that page back..(And, by all means, add the WorldConnect databases we own) -Unc Hi Fred, I really want that too. However, I think until the rest of the site has been evaluated and restored, we are unlikely to get our wish granted. After -- maybe! Valorie > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter D Cook [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:53 AM > To: List-Owners (D) List > Cc: Mary D. Taffet > Subject: [LO]Mailing List Admins who are also Board Admins > > Hi Mary > > Just sorted my own Query Board admin access. > > So long as you know your User Name for the Query Board sign-in, use the “Forgot” link at the Message Boards sign-up screen and after creating a new Password, you should be taken to your admin area. > > If that doesn’t work or it asks you for the old (forgotten) password, you will need to contact [email protected] and explain the problem - give them your user-name, and the related e-mail address - you should also say if one or both is/are the same as you use for the mailing list or not. > > Regards > > Peter > ButeshireGenWeb -- http://about.me/valoriez

    04/09/2018 11:54:30
    1. [LO]Re: Headers for Held Messages
    2. Gene Phillips

    3. Apparently there is a secret parameter in each list that determines the size of the message that can be sent. I replied to the same digest that a subscriber did and my message was held for approval. I created a new message with only a couple of lines and it came through. I looked through all the settings and the only think related to size was Digest Threshold. I increased it to a size that was larger then the message, but I still got held for approval. Gene

    04/09/2018 07:38:25
    1. [LO]Re: Settings Page
    2. Pat Asher

    3. At 07:04 PM 4/9/2018, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: >That is actually a very good and important question. An example: > >http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/search?query=enland > >The very important thing to note is that MailMan is currently pulling the >wrong fields in the wrong places and some of these are from the previous >system. We do believe they will be correct when we upgrade in a few weeks. > >The joys of inherited software. Did you mean "<http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/search/BURGENLAND-NEWSLETTER>BURGENLAND-NEWSLETTER Topic: A read-only mailing list for the distribution of the monthly Burgenland Bunch Newsletter, a newsletter which addresses the Province of Burgenland, Austria, and nearby areas of Hungary. The newsletter is the house organ of the family history group called The Burgenland Bunch and is sent only to its members. Additional information concerning The Burgenland Bunch and its newsletter can be found on The Burgenland Bunch homepage at http://www.the-burgenland-bunch.org/. If you would like to join The Burgenland Bunch, go to The Burgenland Bunch homepage and fill out the "New Member Information Form" found there. You will be subscribed automatically to the newsletter. " Is DESCRIPTION displayed as "Topic:" as opposed to INFORMATION at "<http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/search/ENG-WISBECH-AREA>ENG-WISBECH-AREA A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in the town of Wisbech and/or the surrounding villages and parishes lying within 15 miles from Wisbech. Wisbech sits on both sides of the river Nene which forms the Cambridgeshire/Norfolk border and is nine miles south of the Cambridgeshire/Lincolnshire border. The list will focus on the area surrounding Wisbech that lies in these three counties. Additional information can be found on the Wisbech and the Fenlands website below:" Still trying to understand the difference. Pat

    04/09/2018 06:42:19
    1. [LO]Re: Headers for Held Messages
    2. Pat Asher

    3. At 07:50 PM 4/9/2018, Gene Phillips wrote: >I would look at the two headers below. It would appear to me that >your message has exceeded max-size. > >The same parameter, max size, on the messages I've received is on >the X-Mailman-Rule-Misses header. > >I looked at a message that I approved that had a N/A reason and >guess what. max-size was listed in the X-Mailman-Rule-Hits header > >Gene Gene, I saw that in the headers too. However, here is the message I sent, in its entirety, but without the quotes: "This is just to let you know the RootsWeb mailing lists are functioning again. Feel free to post any questions you may have been sitting on while they were not. The Archives are being re-populated, but due to their size, it is going to take some time to complete. This post should initiate that process. "For detailed information on working with the new list software, see <http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp> "Pat Asher" As plain text (Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed) which is the way the message was sent, the above is 450 bytes. How can that exceed max-size? Because of the bloated headers which actually had almost nothing to do with the origin or routing of the message from me to rootsweb.com, which is what I wanted to learn from looking at them, lol Just askin . . . . . Pat Asher

    04/09/2018 06:32:11
    1. [LO]Re: Headers for Held Messages
    2. Gene Phillips

    3. I would look at the two headers below. It would appear to me that your message has exceeded max-size. The same parameter, max size, on the messages I've received is on the X-Mailman-Rule-Misses header. I looked at a message that I approved that had a N/A reason and guess what. max-size was listed in the X-Mailman-Rule-Hits header Gene At 06:12 PM 4/9/2018, Pat Asher wrote: >I have been gradually posting to the lists I own to advise people to register as necessary, but mainly to initiate archives. > >I have discovered that when I ask to "show headers" or "view source" for a held post, the headers that are shown are those on the Ancestry.com servers, which are no help at all for verifying the origin, and therefore the possible legitimacy of the held post. > >For example, my own post from pjroots to [email protected] was held for reason n/a and the "headers" are below. If this wasn't "me," how would I know it was a valid post? > >X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: max-size >X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header

    04/09/2018 05:50:20
    1. [LO]Re: Headers for Held Messages
    2. Anne Gillespie Mitchell

    3. The content of the email should be shown. That is how I’ve been deciding. I’m managing the adoptable lists. Anne On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:13 PM Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been gradually posting to the lists I own to advise people to > register as necessary, but mainly to initiate archives. > > I have discovered that when I ask to "show headers" or "view source" > for a held post, the headers that are shown are those on the > Ancestry.com servers, which are no help at all for verifying the > origin, and therefore the possible legitimacy of the held post. > > For example, my own post from pjroots to [email protected] was > held for reason n/a and the "headers" are below. If this wasn't "me," > how would I know it was a valid post? > > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) > Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is 74.6.132.253) > smtp.mailfrom=att.net; rootsweb.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified) > header.d=att.net;rootsweb.com; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none > header.from=att.net; > Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: att.net does not designate > permitted sender hosts) > Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP > [10.15.0.15]) > by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 > for <[email protected]>; 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    04/09/2018 05:17:40
    1. [LO]Headers for Held Messages
    2. Pat Asher

    3. I have been gradually posting to the lists I own to advise people to register as necessary, but mainly to initiate archives. I have discovered that when I ask to "show headers" or "view source" for a held post, the headers that are shown are those on the Ancestry.com servers, which are no help at all for verifying the origin, and therefore the possible legitimacy of the held post. For example, my own post from pjroots to [email protected] was held for reason n/a and the "headers" are below. If this wasn't "me," how would I know it was a valid post? Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP [10.15.0.15]) by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP [10.15.0.15]) by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP [10.15.0.15]) by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 for <[email protected]>; Mon, 9 Apr 2018 16:51:42 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is 74.6.132.253) smtp.mailfrom=att.net; rootsweb.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified) header.d=att.net;rootsweb.com; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none header.from=att.net; Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: att.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (FEBigIP [10.15.0.15]) by rwlistsmail.rootsweb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE0DFDA3 for <[email protected]>; 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    04/09/2018 05:12:47
    1. [LO]Re: Settings Page
    2. Anne Gillespie Mitchell

    3. That is actually a very good and important question. An example: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/search?query=enland The very important thing to note is that MailMan is currently pulling the wrong fields in the wrong places and some of these are from the previous system. We do believe they will be correct when we upgrade in a few weeks. The joys of inherited software. Anne On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: > And what is or will be the "directory page"? > > Not being facetious -- List Admins, visitors, and subscribers apparently > see different pages? > > Pat > > > > At 05:32 PM 4/9/2018, you wrote: > >> The next time the lists are re-indexed it will show on the directory page. >> >> Anne >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > The Settings page requests five parameters for a particular list, i.e. >> > >> > Show list on index page - yes/no >> > DESCRIPTION - x x x >> > Information - x x x >> > Display name - the name of the list, e.g. ROOTSWEB-HELP >> > Subject Prefix - the Subject prefix for posts to the list, e.g. >> > [ROOTSWEB-HELP] >> > >> > Where and when does the DESCRIPTION parameter appear, and/or affect >> > postings. >> > >> > I ask because the Rootsweb-Help mailing list (which I admin) is >> receiving >> > questions from other listowners relative to adminning their lists, >> whereas >> > the RootsWeb-Help list is about help with web sites hosted by Rootsweb >> on >> > the WWW and Homepages servers. I have updated the Information box for >> this >> > list in settings, and referred posters to the LISTOWNERS list; but I am >> at >> > a loss as to what to put in the DESCRIPTION box. What if any effect does >> > this box have on anything? >> > >> > >> > Pat A. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >> > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >> > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >> > >> > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >> > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >> > >> > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr >> > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> > >> > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >> > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >> information. >> > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >> > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >> > >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Anne Mitchell >> >> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >> >> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr >> y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> >> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >> information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

    04/09/2018 05:04:57
    1. [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages
    2. David E. Cann

    3. Anne, There are now NINETEEN MESSAGES waiting in my "Held Messages" queue, all of which are the first messages you asked us to send to our lists. All were sent in text format, without attachments, and I sent them all myself and I am subscribed to all of my lists, wo what is causing this. AM I GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP DOING THIS WHEN I SEND THE REST OF MY MESSAGES TO MY LISTS? I will leave them where they are so you can look at them, but there is one in each of the following lists: ALABAMA AL-CEMETERIES AR-CEMETERIES BEEM BRADFORD BREWSTER BRITISH-MARINERS CANADA-CEMETERIES CANN CAN-NB-CARLETON CAN-NB-CEMETERIES CAN-NB-VICTORIA CAN-NEWFOUNDLAND CAN-NF-CEMETERIES CAN-NF-OBITS CAN-NS-ANNAPOLIS PLEASE LET ME KNOW what is going on with this before I resume the rest of my messages to my lists, and also what can be done to fix this. David E. Cann [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Anne Gillespie Mitchell <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 12:18 PM To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <[email protected]> Subject: [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages I wouldn't bother sending them to me each time. Just approve what should be approved. Anne On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:07 AM, David E. Cann <[email protected]> wrote: > Anne, > > I know the filters are supposed to let proper posts through as you > stated, but they don't always do it and that is the problem. I will > start sending you a list of them as they occur then, but it is not > just not a single list. > > > Do you want me to approve the post in each case, or leave them in Held > Messages for you to see each time? Thanks. > > > David E. Cann > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anne Gillespie Mitchell <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:47 AM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators > <[email protected]> > Subject: [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages > > Most lists are set up so that only members posts will go through; non > members have to be approved. And that is how it should be. > > And if you can't give me a specific list to look at where this is > happening, I can't solve it. > > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:41 AM, David E. Cann <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Anne, > > > > I am noticing a pretty fair number of legitimate incoming list posts > > from subscribers getting caught in the "Held Messages" filters. > > Obviously, I can and do simply "accept" them, but I shouldn't have to. > > I cannot give you the name of a single specific list that it happens > > on because there are several of them so far, but maybe that is > > something on the engineers' "to do list." > > I hope so. > > > > FWIW, It first became known when someone posted a number of "Test" > > messages to a list, and my first reaction was a happiness that you > > found a filter to stop test messages, but now I am not so sure such > > was > the case. > > > > > > David E. Cann > > [email protected] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with > > RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > > https://lists.rootsweb > . > > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb community > > > > > > -- > Anne Mitchell > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> _______________________________________________

    04/09/2018 04:04:34
    1. [LO]Re: Settings Page
    2. Pat Asher

    3. And what is or will be the "directory page"? Not being facetious -- List Admins, visitors, and subscribers apparently see different pages? Pat At 05:32 PM 4/9/2018, you wrote: >The next time the lists are re-indexed it will show on the directory page. > >Anne > >On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The Settings page requests five parameters for a particular list, i.e. > > > > Show list on index page - yes/no > > DESCRIPTION - x x x > > Information - x x x > > Display name - the name of the list, e.g. ROOTSWEB-HELP > > Subject Prefix - the Subject prefix for posts to the list, e.g. > > [ROOTSWEB-HELP] > > > > Where and when does the DESCRIPTION parameter appear, and/or affect > > postings. > > > > I ask because the Rootsweb-Help mailing list (which I admin) is receiving > > questions from other listowners relative to adminning their lists, whereas > > the RootsWeb-Help list is about help with web sites hosted by Rootsweb on > > the WWW and Homepages servers. I have updated the Information box for this > > list in settings, and referred posters to the LISTOWNERS list; but I am at > > a loss as to what to put in the DESCRIPTION box. What if any effect does > > this box have on anything? > > > > > > Pat A. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > >-- >Anne Mitchell > >http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >You are receiving this email because you have registered with >RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >To unsubscribe send an email to >mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >View the archives for this list at: >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >RootsWeb community

    04/09/2018 03:57:25
    1. [LO]Re: Settings Page
    2. Anne Gillespie Mitchell

    3. The next time the lists are re-indexed it will show on the directory page. Anne On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Pat Asher <[email protected]> wrote: > The Settings page requests five parameters for a particular list, i.e. > > Show list on index page - yes/no > DESCRIPTION - x x x > Information - x x x > Display name - the name of the list, e.g. ROOTSWEB-HELP > Subject Prefix - the Subject prefix for posts to the list, e.g. > [ROOTSWEB-HELP] > > Where and when does the DESCRIPTION parameter appear, and/or affect > postings. > > I ask because the Rootsweb-Help mailing list (which I admin) is receiving > questions from other listowners relative to adminning their lists, whereas > the RootsWeb-Help list is about help with web sites hosted by Rootsweb on > the WWW and Homepages servers. I have updated the Information box for this > list in settings, and referred posters to the LISTOWNERS list; but I am at > a loss as to what to put in the DESCRIPTION box. What if any effect does > this box have on anything? > > > Pat A. > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

    04/09/2018 03:32:12
    1. [LO]Settings Page
    2. Pat Asher

    3. The Settings page requests five parameters for a particular list, i.e. Show list on index page - yes/no DESCRIPTION - x x x Information - x x x Display name - the name of the list, e.g. ROOTSWEB-HELP Subject Prefix - the Subject prefix for posts to the list, e.g. [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Where and when does the DESCRIPTION parameter appear, and/or affect postings. I ask because the Rootsweb-Help mailing list (which I admin) is receiving questions from other listowners relative to adminning their lists, whereas the RootsWeb-Help list is about help with web sites hosted by Rootsweb on the WWW and Homepages servers. I have updated the Information box for this list in settings, and referred posters to the LISTOWNERS list; but I am at a loss as to what to put in the DESCRIPTION box. What if any effect does this box have on anything? Pat A.

    04/09/2018 02:26:32
    1. [LO]Re: Digest issue
    2. Mary Richardson

    3. Thanks, Paul, but my digest mode is already plain text. Regardless, sometimes my digests have no line breaks. Other times they do. Mary Richardson At 03:11 PM 4/9/2018, Paul L LeBlanc via LISTOWNERS wrote: >Wrong digest mode? > >https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/yourlist.rootsweb.com/members/subscriber/ >change yourlist to your list's name lowercase > >selet the member > >Member options >Delivery mode >besides regular >there are three digest modes >Please change them to plain text > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sherry Landa > >Thanks Mary, > >It's ood to know it's not just me! > >On 9 April 2018 at 15:19, Mary Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have the same problem. Some digests come to me in one long string as if > > there are no line breaks. Other digests look normal. Had this problem > > before the new Mailman, so I don't know if it's necessarily related to the > > new software. > > > > Mary Richardson > > > > > > At 08:22 AM 4/9/2018, Sherry Landa wrote: > >> > >> Can anyone tell me if I am alone at British-Jewry with this issue or > >> if it is everywhere? Is there anything _I_ need to do? This digest > >> contained ONLY emails from me that were in plain text and went > >> straight through to the list.

    04/09/2018 02:16:25
    1. [LO]Re: Digest issue
    2. Paul L LeBlanc

    3. Wrong digest mode? https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/yourlist.rootsweb.com/members/subscriber/ change yourlist to your list's name lowercase selet the member Member options Delivery mode besides regular there are three digest modes Please change them to plain text -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Landa Thanks Mary, It's ood to know it's not just me! On 9 April 2018 at 15:19, Mary Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > I have the same problem. Some digests come to me in one long string as if > there are no line breaks. Other digests look normal. Had this problem > before the new Mailman, so I don't know if it's necessarily related to the > new software. > > Mary Richardson > > > At 08:22 AM 4/9/2018, Sherry Landa wrote: >> >> Can anyone tell me if I am alone at British-Jewry with this issue or >> if it is everywhere? Is there anything _I_ need to do? This digest >> contained ONLY emails from me that were in plain text and went >> straight through to the list. >>

    04/09/2018 01:11:58
    1. [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages
    2. Margy Bousman

    3. What I did was check with the person because so many use one client for a couple of addresses and would add that address as a no mail address. But I knew them, so they could write the list and we would have no more problems with mail being held. Margy -----Original Message----- From: James [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 12:25 PM To: Listowners List Posting Subject: [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages I check headers and other criteria beforehand. Also make sure they are subscribed. Some replies coming in from my list messages are using address to send with thats not subscribed. Dan

    04/09/2018 01:07:49
    1. [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages
    2. David E. Cann

    3. Dan, I always do. I do not approve it fort anyone NOT a current subscriber. David E. Cann [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: James <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 12:25 PM To: Listowners List Posting <[email protected]> Subject: [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages I check headers and other criteria beforehand. Also make sure they are subscribed. Some replies coming in from my list messages are using address to send with thats not subscribed. Dan

    04/09/2018 10:54:12
    1. [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages
    2. James

    3. I check headers and other criteria beforehand. Also make sure they are subscribed. Some replies coming in from my list messages are using address to send with thats not subscribed. Dan On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 9:19 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < [email protected]> wrote: > I wouldn't bother sending them to me each time. > > Just approve what should be approved. > > Anne > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:07 AM, David E. Cann <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Anne, > > > > I know the filters are supposed to let proper posts through as you > stated, > > but they don't always do it and that is the problem. I will start > sending > > you a list of them as they occur then, but it is not just not a single > > list. > > > > > > Do you want me to approve the post in each case, or leave them in Held > > Messages for you to see each time? Thanks. > > > > > > David E. Cann > > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Anne Gillespie Mitchell <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 11:47 AM > > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: [LO]Re: Legitimate posts stopped by Held Messages > > > > Most lists are set up so that only members posts will go through; non > > members have to be approved. And that is how it should be. > > > > And if you can't give me a specific list to look at where this is > > happening, > > I can't solve it. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:41 AM, David E. Cann <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Anne, > > > > > > I am noticing a pretty fair number of legitimate incoming list posts > > > from subscribers getting caught in the "Held Messages" filters. > > > Obviously, I can and do simply "accept" them, but I shouldn't have to. > > > I cannot give you the name of a single specific list that it happens > > > on because there are several of them so far, but maybe that is > > > something on the engineers' "to do list." > > > I hope so. > > > > > > FWIW, It first became known when someone posted a number of "Test" > > > messages to a list, and my first reaction was a happiness that you > > > found a filter to stop test messages, but now I am not so sure such was > > the case. > > > > > > > > > David E. 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