It was (not) by a lot of people. It was by (staff). This new system is far different than the old one. If we don't have talk and tell and show then what good is staff now only to belittle a list owner trying to pick out some sensible reasons why something dont work. ? On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:56 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < [email protected]> wrote: > Well, I've been told a lot of things by a lot of people that turned out not > to be true. ;-) > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well. Thats not what we been told before. > > Lo arcives would verify that. > > Good to know for sure tho. > > Thanks :)) > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:46 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I've used Bcc and messages have gone through successfully. Which makes > > > sense. By the time the email gets to Mailing Lists system, the bcc is > > gone > > > from the mail, otherwise, it wouldn't be a blind carbon copy. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Nivard Ovington < > [email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I use bcc on every single message I send and have done for years and > it > > > > has no effect whatsoever > > > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17-Apr-18 10:49 AM, John Van Essen wrote: > > > > > > > >> I haven't seen this clarified, yet... > > > >> > > > >> Never use Bcc >>for the list email address<<. As an anti-spam > > feature, > > > >> if Mailman doesn't see the list name in the To or Cc fields, Mailman > > > will > > > >> Hold or Discard (according to the settings for the list). > > > >> > > > >> You can use Bcc for any other email address on a message to a > mailing > > > >> list and Mailman won't care because Bcc is never included in the > email > > > >> headers. 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Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct the subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to give a reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part as with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made me look bad because the reject reason was blank. Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it going to be known its not serived like it should be? On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < [email protected]> wrote: > I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need more > good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > > I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that > publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way to > engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > > Anne > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > > > We all make mistakes at times! > > > > Valorie > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > > reason. > > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > > grilled > > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > > Dan > > > > -- > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb > . > > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > > -- > Anne Mitchell > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Well, I've been told a lot of things by a lot of people that turned out not to be true. ;-) On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Well. Thats not what we been told before. > Lo arcives would verify that. > Good to know for sure tho. > Thanks :)) > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:46 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I've used Bcc and messages have gone through successfully. Which makes > > sense. By the time the email gets to Mailing Lists system, the bcc is > gone > > from the mail, otherwise, it wouldn't be a blind carbon copy. > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I use bcc on every single message I send and have done for years and it > > > has no effect whatsoever > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > > > > On 17-Apr-18 10:49 AM, John Van Essen wrote: > > > > > >> I haven't seen this clarified, yet... > > >> > > >> Never use Bcc >>for the list email address<<. As an anti-spam > feature, > > >> if Mailman doesn't see the list name in the To or Cc fields, Mailman > > will > > >> Hold or Discard (according to the settings for the list). > > >> > > >> You can use Bcc for any other email address on a message to a mailing > > >> list and Mailman won't care because Bcc is never included in the email > > >> headers. It never sees it. > > >> > > >> John > > >> > > >> > > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 12:03, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> If bcc, is any where in the same message going to rootsweb, it will > be > > >>> rejected. > > >>> Never use bcc. > > >>> They set up rw to reject those messages as implicit. > > >>> Dan > > >>> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > > > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information. > > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Anne Mitchell > > > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > [email protected]/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

Well. Thats not what we been told before. Lo arcives would verify that. Good to know for sure tho. Thanks :)) On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:46 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < [email protected]> wrote: > I've used Bcc and messages have gone through successfully. Which makes > sense. By the time the email gets to Mailing Lists system, the bcc is gone > from the mail, otherwise, it wouldn't be a blind carbon copy. > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I use bcc on every single message I send and have done for years and it > > has no effect whatsoever > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > On 17-Apr-18 10:49 AM, John Van Essen wrote: > > > >> I haven't seen this clarified, yet... > >> > >> Never use Bcc >>for the list email address<<. As an anti-spam feature, > >> if Mailman doesn't see the list name in the To or Cc fields, Mailman > will > >> Hold or Discard (according to the settings for the list). > >> > >> You can use Bcc for any other email address on a message to a mailing > >> list and Mailman won't care because Bcc is never included in the email > >> headers. It never sees it. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 12:03, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> If bcc, is any where in the same message going to rootsweb, it will be > >>> rejected. > >>> Never use bcc. > >>> They set up rw to reject those messages as implicit. > >>> Dan > >>> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > > -- > Anne Mitchell > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thanks :)) On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:45 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < [email protected]> wrote: > You do not need the ^ symbol on the banned list. Works the same with or > without it. > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just curious. > > On the banned list do we still need the carrot before the addresses? > > Dan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb > . > > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > > -- > Anne Mitchell > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need more good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way to engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. Anne On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < [email protected]> wrote: > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > We all make mistakes at times! > > Valorie > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > reason. > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > grilled > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > Dan > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

I've used Bcc and messages have gone through successfully. Which makes sense. By the time the email gets to Mailing Lists system, the bcc is gone from the mail, otherwise, it wouldn't be a blind carbon copy. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > I use bcc on every single message I send and have done for years and it > has no effect whatsoever > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > On 17-Apr-18 10:49 AM, John Van Essen wrote: > >> I haven't seen this clarified, yet... >> >> Never use Bcc >>for the list email address<<. As an anti-spam feature, >> if Mailman doesn't see the list name in the To or Cc fields, Mailman will >> Hold or Discard (according to the settings for the list). >> >> You can use Bcc for any other email address on a message to a mailing >> list and Mailman won't care because Bcc is never included in the email >> headers. It never sees it. >> >> John >> >> >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 12:03, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> If bcc, is any where in the same message going to rootsweb, it will be >>> rejected. >>> Never use bcc. >>> They set up rw to reject those messages as implicit. >>> Dan >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestr > y.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

You do not need the ^ symbol on the banned list. Works the same with or without it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > Just curious. > On the banned list do we still need the carrot before the addresses? > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

Maybe it shows up here? http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/ Like before when we used the index. The ladies in the beginning of 1998 Era who wrote in our name varients and was it Larry? Not sure about the name did list description for us. We never had to do those things b4. But times change. I ask the same question where does the part Pat mentioned show up? Dan On Apr 9, 2018 1:27 PM, "Pat Asher" <[email protected]> wrote: The Settings page requests five parameters for a particular list, i.e. Show list on index page - yes/no DESCRIPTION - x x x Information - x x x Display name - the name of the list, e.g. ROOTSWEB-HELP Subject Prefix - the Subject prefix for posts to the list, e.g. [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Where and when does the DESCRIPTION parameter appear, and/or affect postings. I ask because the Rootsweb-Help mailing list (which I admin) is receiving questions from other listowners relative to adminning their lists, whereas the RootsWeb-Help list is about help with web sites hosted by Rootsweb on the WWW and Homepages servers. I have updated the Information box for this list in settings, and referred posters to the LISTOWNERS list; but I am at a loss as to what to put in the DESCRIPTION box. What if any effect does this box have on anything? Pat A. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I use bcc on every single message I send and have done for years and it has no effect whatsoever Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17-Apr-18 10:49 AM, John Van Essen wrote: > I haven't seen this clarified, yet... > > Never use Bcc >>for the list email address<<. As an anti-spam feature, if Mailman doesn't see the list name in the To or Cc fields, Mailman will Hold or Discard (according to the settings for the list). > > You can use Bcc for any other email address on a message to a mailing list and Mailman won't care because Bcc is never included in the email headers. It never sees it. > > John > > >> On Apr 15, 2018, at 12:03, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If bcc, is any where in the same message going to rootsweb, it will be rejected. >> Never use bcc. >> They set up rw to reject those messages as implicit. >> Dan

I haven't seen this clarified, yet... Never use Bcc >>for the list email address<<. As an anti-spam feature, if Mailman doesn't see the list name in the To or Cc fields, Mailman will Hold or Discard (according to the settings for the list). You can use Bcc for any other email address on a message to a mailing list and Mailman won't care because Bcc is never included in the email headers. It never sees it. John > On Apr 15, 2018, at 12:03, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > If bcc, is any where in the same message going to rootsweb, it will be rejected. > Never use bcc. > They set up rw to reject those messages as implicit. > Dan

Dan & David, That caret is simply a regular expression marker; it means the match starts at the beginning of the character string.  I'm guessing it's optional in this particular case. -- Mary On 4/16/18 7:43 PM, David E. Cann wrote: > It is my understanding that we have always supposed to have prefaced our > entry with that mark all along, but it has never been very clearly stated. > Mailman actually said to do it, but that was the only time I recall seeing > it stated in 20 years of managing lists. I'd kind of like to know myself, > if anyone really KNOWS without guessing. > > > David E. Cann > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dj M <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:10 PM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators > <[email protected]> > Subject: [LO]Re: Settings Page > > Just curious. > On the banned list do we still need the carrot before the addresses? > Dan > >

Thank you. Diane Sent from my iPad > On 17 Apr 2018, at 00:27, Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you and the listowner of the list agree, and want to extend the > awesome power of the listowner to you, that is easily done. The > listowner just adds your email as a listowner, then removes you as a > manager. Personally, I don't see the point of managers unless the list > size is enormous -- say 10,000 subscribers. > > And in my experience, if possible it is good to have a small team of > two rather than a lone listowner for largers lists. Now it is easier > than ever since there is no longer a "list password" to pass along. > > Valorie > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote: >> This is all assistants have: >> Subscription requests >> Held messages >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Valorie Zimmerman [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:11 PM >> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators >> Cc: Diane Sowden >> Subject: [LO]Re: How do you subscribe someone please? >> >> You *can* add the address on your list tools: Mass operations > mass >> subscribe and just paste in the address. However, it is *much* better >> to send them to the >> http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/setupmail page and and >> list info link and let them subscribe themselves. >> >> Really, everyone should be able to make an account and have control >> over their subscriptions and how they wish to receive their email. >> >> Valorie >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Diane Sowden via LISTOWNERS >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I had someone that wished to be subscribed with a new email address but I couldn’t do it. I had to forward it to the list owner. >>> >>> Please tell me how to do it, I am his assistant. >>> >>> Diane > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Its not a misstake. It was caught in the header stated as such. According to the reject page we should have that option. The peoson who was rejected made a note his copy stated (reason) and was blank. That was directly pointed out by the member. Some one tagging the controls should read the mail man dox online its very specific how it works and how it should be installed. I had planned to use it once. Too many fine details. Miss one thing and messes up stuff. Having defunk admin and incomplete controls is not out misstake. Lots of list admins saying same things. Dan On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 4:38 PM Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > We all make mistakes at times! > > Valorie > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > reason. > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > grilled > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > Dan > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Would be nice if it was part of the little sentence on the banned list page. Some one could edit that being on mind maybe? Would help everyone. Maybe we had mailman 20 years but we had that last up grade last year everyone was frustrated with also. And in newer versions things change. Nice to have those directly on the admins pages? Dan On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 4:44 PM David E. Cann <[email protected]> wrote: > It is my understanding that we have always supposed to have prefaced our > entry with that mark all along, but it has never been very clearly stated. > Mailman actually said to do it, but that was the only time I recall seeing > it stated in 20 years of managing lists. I'd kind of like to know myself, > if anyone really KNOWS without guessing. > > > David E. Cann > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dj M <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:10 PM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators > <[email protected]> > Subject: [LO]Re: Settings Page > > Just curious. > On the banned list do we still need the carrot before the addresses? > Dan > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

It is my understanding that we have always supposed to have prefaced our entry with that mark all along, but it has never been very clearly stated. Mailman actually said to do it, but that was the only time I recall seeing it stated in 20 years of managing lists. I'd kind of like to know myself, if anyone really KNOWS without guessing. David E. Cann [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Dj M <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:10 PM To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <[email protected]> Subject: [LO]Re: Settings Page Just curious. On the banned list do we still need the carrot before the addresses? Dan

I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. We all make mistakes at times! Valorie On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a reason. > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got grilled > by the member because it was not in the reject. > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > Dan -- http://about.me/valoriez

If you and the listowner of the list agree, and want to extend the awesome power of the listowner to you, that is easily done. The listowner just adds your email as a listowner, then removes you as a manager. Personally, I don't see the point of managers unless the list size is enormous -- say 10,000 subscribers. And in my experience, if possible it is good to have a small team of two rather than a lone listowner for largers lists. Now it is easier than ever since there is no longer a "list password" to pass along. Valorie On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Fred <[email protected]> wrote: > This is all assistants have: > Subscription requests > Held messages > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:11 PM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators > Cc: Diane Sowden > Subject: [LO]Re: How do you subscribe someone please? > > You *can* add the address on your list tools: Mass operations > mass > subscribe and just paste in the address. However, it is *much* better > to send them to the > http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/setupmail page and and > list info link and let them subscribe themselves. > > Really, everyone should be able to make an account and have control > over their subscriptions and how they wish to receive their email. > > Valorie > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Diane Sowden via LISTOWNERS > <[email protected]> wrote: >> I had someone that wished to be subscribed with a new email address but I couldn’t do it. I had to forward it to the list owner. >> >> Please tell me how to do it, I am his assistant. >> >> Diane -- http://about.me/valoriez

Thanks Valorie. Diane Sent from my iPad > On 17 Apr 2018, at 00:19, Fred <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is all assistants have: > Subscription requests > Held messages > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:11 PM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators > Cc: Diane Sowden > Subject: [LO]Re: How do you subscribe someone please? > > You *can* add the address on your list tools: Mass operations > mass > subscribe and just paste in the address. However, it is *much* better > to send them to the > http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/setupmail page and and > list info link and let them subscribe themselves. > > Really, everyone should be able to make an account and have control > over their subscriptions and how they wish to receive their email. > > Valorie > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Diane Sowden via LISTOWNERS > <[email protected]> wrote: >> I had someone that wished to be subscribed with a new email address but I couldn’t do it. I had to forward it to the list owner. >> >> Please tell me how to do it, I am his assistant. >> >> Diane > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

This is all assistants have: Subscription requests Held messages -----Original Message----- From: Valorie Zimmerman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 7:11 PM To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators Cc: Diane Sowden Subject: [LO]Re: How do you subscribe someone please? You *can* add the address on your list tools: Mass operations > mass subscribe and just paste in the address. However, it is *much* better to send them to the http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/setupmail page and and list info link and let them subscribe themselves. Really, everyone should be able to make an account and have control over their subscriptions and how they wish to receive their email. Valorie On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Diane Sowden via LISTOWNERS <[email protected]> wrote: > I had someone that wished to be subscribed with a new email address but I couldn’t do it. I had to forward it to the list owner. > > Please tell me how to do it, I am his assistant. > > Diane -- http://about.me/valoriez _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community