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    1. [LO]Re: mail man page
    2. DJ
    3. https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/release-3.0/src/mailman/app/docs/bans.html How to ban. Dan

    04/17/2018 10:27:16
    1. [LO]Re: What is MSM?
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Its MSN (not MSM) Whoever posted it made a typo ie it referred to messages from MSN users Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17-Apr-18 4:59 PM, David E. Cann wrote: > I have beet trying to at least skim through the messages on LO to keep up with all of the ongoing issues with Mailman and our lists, but what in the world is this "MSM" people are so concerned about, and is that another worry I should add to all of my subscriber mail (with attachments) STILL getting stuck IN THE held mail filters so I can manually approve it FOR MYSELF and other listed subscribers? ☹ > > > David E. Cann > [email protected]

    04/17/2018 10:26:12
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Dan M
    3. I use a filter to put them in a folder. same for subscriber, and before when we have moderator request. Filters are easy in thunderbird . On 04/17/2018 09:01 AM, Wendy Archer wrote: > Lin - > > On 17/04/2018 16:25, Lin Duke wrote: >> If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at >> the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail >> address and composing a message in our own email programme. > > I use Thunderbird, and have the ImportExportTools add-on added on. > > So, when a notification of a held message arrives, with text: > > 'As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the > following mailing list posting:' > > and the would-be post as an attachment, I can import it into my in-box > such that it appears as a normal email, and reply to it there.  I did > this even in the previous Mailman - that way I have a record of the > correspondence. > > > > Wendy > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists.  Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > Your privacy is important to us.  View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information.  Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    04/17/2018 10:17:20
    1. [LO]Re: Boards list?
    2. Gene Phillips
    3. [email protected] At 10:42 AM 4/17/2018, Timothy Stowell wrote: >Is there a mailing list where board managers can get assistance? Where >does one discover, remember what boards one is the listed administrator? > >Thanks, > >Tim Stowell

    04/17/2018 10:01:56
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Wendy Archer
    3. Lin - On 17/04/2018 16:25, Lin Duke wrote: > If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at > the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail > address and composing a message in our own email programme. I use Thunderbird, and have the ImportExportTools add-on added on. So, when a notification of a held message arrives, with text: 'As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting:' and the would-be post as an attachment, I can import it into my in-box such that it appears as a normal email, and reply to it there. I did this even in the previous Mailman - that way I have a record of the correspondence. Wendy

    04/17/2018 10:01:53
    1. [LO]Re: Boards list?
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Tim Go to Ancestry (ie sign in) under Help menu at the top, select message boards Any boards you admin will be listed there Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17-Apr-18 4:42 PM, Timothy Stowell wrote: > Is there a mailing list where board managers can get assistance? Where > does one discover, remember what boards one is the listed administrator? > > Thanks, > > Tim Stowell

    04/17/2018 09:59:17
    1. [LO]What is MSM?
    2. David E. Cann
    3. I have beet trying to at least skim through the messages on LO to keep up with all of the ongoing issues with Mailman and our lists, but what in the world is this "MSM" people are so concerned about, and is that another worry I should add to all of my subscriber mail (with attachments) STILL getting stuck IN THE held mail filters so I can manually approve it FOR MYSELF and other listed subscribers? ☹ David E. Cann [email protected]

    04/17/2018 09:59:05
    1. [LO]Re: Menu missing on Rootsweb home page ?
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. The aforementioned menu appeared again a day or so after my post But has since disappeared again :-( Curiously its there when you sign in to admin tools for any list Could we have it back please on the rootsweb home page Its hard to tell people to go to the rootsweb home page when there is no menu Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 11-Apr-18 9:27 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > Can someone tell me if the top bar menu on the Rootsweb home page comes > up for them please > > Its disappeared this morning, its the same in two browsers and two > computers so don't think its a local problem > > I often give the home page for the update and registration information > and to show how to find the lists or boards > > I have on occasion found the menu missing but refreshing brought it up > but not this time >

    04/17/2018 09:57:26
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Pat Asher
    3. At 11:10 AM 4/17/2018, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: >If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me >know. > >Anne How about HEADER FILTERS? I assume this is a way of accepting mail from a user who uses more than one address, not all of which are subscribed and/or discarding repeat spams coming from the same or similar addresses or a particular domain? Should the header filter box specify the content as well as the header itself? Or should that be only in the RegEx box? A reference or example for acceptable Regular Expressions would be nice. Pat A.

    04/17/2018 09:56:54
    1. [LO]Re: caret or not
    2. DJ
    3. I found this on the mail man 3 subject of the caret- "In the latter case, to take a couple of examples that were recently banned on the mailman-users mailing list, we added: ^@rnp.br ^@thehensleys.com This is because they had subscribed to the mailman-users list from addresses that were themselves pointed at mis-configured mailing lists, causing every single post to the list to result in a bounce. When the people who administer these sites figure out that they've been unsubscribed and their entire domain has been banned, they can come back to us and ask why we took this action, and then we will explain the severity of the situation to them. Once they can convince us that this will never, ever happen again, we can re-enable subscription access for their domain. Note that there is no leading whitespace in these regular expressions -- the caret ("^") symbol has to be the first character on the line." == Interesting multi topic. Dan

    04/17/2018 09:48:41
    1. [LO]Boards list?
    2. Timothy Stowell
    3. Is there a mailing list where board managers can get assistance? Where does one discover, remember what boards one is the listed administrator? Thanks, Tim Stowell

    04/17/2018 09:42:20
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. DJ
    3. Valorie Over the many years I have always posted to my groups how to use a good subject line. That is noted; so we move on to the ( Hi folks our lists are working) and a flurry of ( me too and I  am here etc)   I already posted that I would not use the reject in a few posts back. How ever, the message was caught, was not good topic, and it looked like a fair time to try a tool I don't use. And don't plan to. How ever, since it needs some fenness maybe it was a good thing and staff folks ( could say ) thanks Dan for brining it up, rather than the put downs.  Sever admins and me talk in private, in part is because every time we post top the list we get or got, some sort of flare and shot down the chute, or in the past, * fly swatted * for even writing to the list any thing ?   As thats a well know topic,, it was why the other lo got started on yahoo and rootsweb other LO list. Its way I stopped posting all together and I guess since my messages and getting that unwelcome feel, maybe I will again stop. Far as good content, I try to keep my posts on some sort of topic like other admins, we ( know) ver 3 is going to be different, we know we can't bring back the past and what we are used to, but we also would like to be heard if we ask a question that seems moot, might be a reason we asked it. Like ( how do  you subscribe some one) on the page it could say ( for all subscribing) or something.   I do read and follow reason. But not excuses.   You want good content? We admins are free help and are only trying to comply to get things going smoothly. We can't responsibly answer members if we don't ask even stupid questions. Mailman 3 is different. Anne does not have it easy, what they are doing is not easy- she said she is having problems and was honest about it pulling from the wrong fields - we all need to give each other some latitude here.   So, folks, it just seems if we all work together, even if things don't seem to happen, chill and tell some one, ( I  changed this, and it had no effect) from there, let the inside people find time to fix it. Some fixing might be global.   I can say, one thing; any one who thinks they can install mailman with out any help go for it.  I looked at my old messages, I been here since fall 1997 I am not against any one, just trying to be a part of the lo family. Dan On 04/16/2018 04:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > We all make mistakes at times! > > Valorie > >

    04/17/2018 09:41:04
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Lin Duke
    3. Quite agree. On 17/04/2018 16:32, Nivard Ovington wrote: > A lot of faff really when it should be a facility to give a reason for > rejection

    04/17/2018 09:38:48
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Reject returns it to the sender Discard does not inform the sender So if its spam and you reject you are telling them its a valid address I would never use reject at all now, it has no use Its a matter of copy the subject line and message, and create a new email with the reason for rejection (usually the wrong address) A lot of faff really when it should be a facility to give a reason for rejection Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17-Apr-18 4:28 PM, Anne Burgess via LISTOWNERS wrote: > I am not quite clear what the difference between 'discard' and 'reject' is? > Both have the same effect, i.e. the message disappears into the ether. > > Anne > ANGUS List Administrator

    04/17/2018 09:32:25
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Anne Burgess
    3. I am not quite clear what the difference between 'discard' and 'reject' is? Both have the same effect, i.e. the message disappears into the ether. Anne ANGUS List Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Anne Gillespie Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 17 April 2018 16:10 To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators Subject: [LO]Re: message reject Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of things to change. You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or tomorrow. If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me know. Anne On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct > the subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. > I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to > give a reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix > that part as with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me > what he got. Made me look bad because the reject reason was blank. > Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it > going to be known its not serived like it should be? > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists > > need > more > > good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > > > > I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) > > that publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might > > be a way > to > > engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > > > > Anne > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as > > > you say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > > > > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if > > > otherwise it is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a > > > *good* subject line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > > > > > We all make mistakes at times! > > > > > > Valorie > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put > > > > in a > > > reason. > > > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still > > > > got > > > grilled > > > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with > > > RootsWeb Mailing Lists. 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    04/17/2018 09:28:37
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Anne Gillespie Mitchell
    3. That is correct. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Lin Duke <[email protected]> wrote: > If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at > the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail > address and composing a message in our own email programme. > > Or am I wrong? > > Lin > > > On 17/04/2018 16:10, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: > > Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list > of > > things to change. > > > > You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. > > > > I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: > > http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: > > http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp > > > > I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or > > tomorrow. > > > > If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let > me > > know. > > > > Anne > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct > the > >> subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. > >> I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to > give a > >> reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part > as > >> with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made > me > >> look bad because the reject reason was blank. > >> Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it > going > >> to be known its not serived like it should be? > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need > >> more > >>> good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > >>> > >>> I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) > that > >>> publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a > way > >> to > >>> engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > >>> > >>> Anne > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > >>>> say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > >>>> > >>>> Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > >>>> is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > >>>> line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > >>>> > >>>> We all make mistakes at times! > >>>> > >>>> Valorie > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > >>>> reason. > >>>>> I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > >>>> grilled > >>>>> by the member because it was not in the reject. > >>>>> I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > >>>>> Dan > >>>> -- > >>>> http://about.me/valoriez > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > >>>> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > >> https://lists.rootsweb > >>> . > >>>> ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > >>>> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >>>> > >>>> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > >>>> ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >>>> > >>>> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > >> information. > >>>> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >>>> > >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >>>> community > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Anne Mitchell > >>> > >>> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > >>> Mailing Lists. 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Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb. > >> ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > >> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >> > >> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > >> ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >> > >> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information. > >> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

    04/17/2018 09:27:39
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Lin Duke
    3. If I understand correctly it's another stage - from giving a reason at the held message stage, to now copying, pasting the message and e-mail address and composing a message in our own email programme. Or am I wrong? Lin On 17/04/2018 16:10, Anne Gillespie Mitchell wrote: > Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of > things to change. > > You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. > > I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: > http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: > http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp > > I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or > tomorrow. > > If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me > know. > > Anne > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct the >> subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. >> I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to give a >> reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part as >> with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made me >> look bad because the reject reason was blank. >> Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it going >> to be known its not serived like it should be? >> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need >> more >>> good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. >>> >>> I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that >>> publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way >> to >>> engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you >>>> say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. >>>> >>>> Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it >>>> is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject >>>> line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. >>>> >>>> We all make mistakes at times! >>>> >>>> Valorie >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a >>>> reason. >>>>> I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got >>>> grilled >>>>> by the member because it was not in the reject. >>>>> I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! >>>>> Dan >>>> -- >>>> http://about.me/valoriez >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >>>> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >> https://lists.rootsweb >>> . >>>> ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >>>> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >>>> >>>> View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. >>>> ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >> information. >>>> Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >>>> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >>>> >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>>> community >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anne Mitchell >>> >>> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >>> Mailing Lists. 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    04/17/2018 09:25:51
    1. [LO]Re: Settings Page
    2. Anne Gillespie Mitchell
    3. Dan, For the foreseeable future, Reject is working the way it will work. Anne On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:15 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Core 3 architecture page > Quote.When a message is first received for posting to a mailing list, > Mailman processes the message to determine whether the message is > appropriate for the mailing list. If so, it *accepts* the message and it > gets posted. Mailman can *discard* the message so that no further > processing occurs. Mailman can also *reject* the message, bouncing it back > to the original sender, usually with some indication of why the message was > rejected. Or, Mailman can *hold* the message for moderator approval." > > " > ( Some indication of why the message was rejected) > List admin need good tools not excuses. > I read all about mailman and how it should work. > Also the problems adding to the old one. > No one is blaming anyone. We just want to get clearified what works. > Site > http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/architecture.html > Dan > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:52 AM Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks :)) > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:45 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> You do not need the ^ symbol on the banned list. Works the same with or > >> without it. > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > Just curious. > >> > On the banned list do we still need the carrot before the addresses? > >> > Dan > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > >> > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > >> https://lists.rootsweb. > >> > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > >> > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >> > > >> > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > >> > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > >> > > >> > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > >> > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > >> information. > >> > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > >> > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >> > > >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >> > community > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Anne Mitchell > >> > >> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > >> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > >> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > >> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > >> > >> View the archives for this list at: > >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > [email protected]/ > >> > >> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > >> information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

    04/17/2018 09:24:58
    1. [LO]Re: Settings Page
    2. Dan M
    3. Core 3 architecture page Quote.When a message is first received for posting to a mailing list, Mailman processes the message to determine whether the message is appropriate for the mailing list. If so, it *accepts* the message and it gets posted. Mailman can *discard* the message so that no further processing occurs. Mailman can also *reject* the message, bouncing it back to the original sender, usually with some indication of why the message was rejected. Or, Mailman can *hold* the message for moderator approval." " ( Some indication of why the message was rejected) List admin need good tools not excuses. I read all about mailman and how it should work. Also the problems adding to the old one. No one is blaming anyone. We just want to get clearified what works. Site http://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/docs/architecture.html Dan On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:52 AM Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks :)) > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:45 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> You do not need the ^ symbol on the banned list. Works the same with or >> without it. >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Dj M <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Just curious. >> > On the banned list do we still need the carrot before the addresses? >> > Dan >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >> > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >> https://lists.rootsweb. >> > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >> > >> > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >> > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >> > >> > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. >> > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> > >> > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >> > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >> information. >> > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >> > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >> > >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Anne Mitchell >> >> http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb >> Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] >> ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe >> >> View the archives for this list at: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> >> Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more >> information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions >> https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >

    04/17/2018 09:15:25
    1. [LO]Re: message reject
    2. Anne Gillespie Mitchell
    3. Changing reject to allow you to add a note is not currently on the list of things to change. You can send a note if you like after you reject the message. I have written up instructions and put them in this folder: http://bit.ly/RootsWebDocs and you will find more on this page: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp I will be updating documents when we push out some updates later today or tomorrow. If there is something you would like me to write up instructions for let me know. Anne On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > Well I agree 100% on (good content) and I would send it on and correct the > subject line. However it was a (me here to) message. > I do not use the reject ever. This was supposed to have a place to give a > reason for the reject before sending. It did not. Please fix that part as > with out it that feature is moot. The member sent me what he got. Made me > look bad because the reject reason was blank. > Also would like to make note if we don't use something how is it going > to be known its not serived like it should be? > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 7:50 AM Anne Gillespie Mitchell < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I agree 100% with Valorie. Don't reject good content! The lists need > more > > good content. Nitpicking is the way to get there. > > > > I've seen lists like APG (Association of Professional Genealogists) that > > publish the rules for the list every 1st of the month. It might be a way > to > > engage your lists and explain what good netiquette is. > > > > Anne > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Valorie Zimmerman < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't like losing the ability to put in a reason. However, as you > > > say a workaround is to copy/paste into a private email. > > > > > > Not sure I would reject for the lack of a subject line if otherwise it > > > is a good post. I guess I would tend to reply with a *good* subject > > > line so that it's easier to find in the archives and leave it at that. > > > > > > We all make mistakes at times! > > > > > > Valorie > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Dan M <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I did reject a message with no subject, there was no way to put in a > > > reason. > > > > I did send a private note following the reject, how ever still got > > > grilled > > > > by the member because it was not in the reject. > > > > I ticked the message to reject, clicked reject, it was gone. Poof! > > > > Dan > > > > > > -- > > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > > Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: > https://lists.rootsweb > > . > > > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > > > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > > > > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > > > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > > > > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more > information. > > > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > > > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Anne Mitchell > > > > http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb > > Mailing Lists. 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Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. > Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Anne Mitchell http://clustergenealogy.com <http://finding-forgotten-stories.com>

    04/17/2018 09:10:08