Go to "Member - Subscribers".  Find that e-mail address. Click on "Member Options" to the right.  Go to the bottom. What does it say across from "Moderation"? Mike On 8/20/2018 8:10 PM, Pat Connors wrote: > I have been notified by an owner that an email I sent today was held > for approval.  Turned out it might have been the -L in the email > address.  I sent one without it, it went through.  However, I also > sent the same message with the L to a couple of lists I admin and it > went through fine. > > Of the -L is stopping emails not to post to the various lists, > shouldn't we have been notified so we could let the posters know?

I'd ask to see the held message (have them forward it to you). I also had one like that where the poster sent to -L and it was held but that was NOT the reason it was held. The held message explanation said it was held because the poster posted from a non-subscribed address (although they were subbed under an alternate address). Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: listowners <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2018 9:10 pm Subject: [LO] the "L" in the email address? I have been notified by an owner that an email I sent today was held for approval. Turned out it might have been the -L in the email address. I sent one without it, it went through. However, I also sent the same message with the L to a couple of lists I admin and it went through fine. Of the -L is stopping emails not to post to the various lists, shouldn't we have been notified so we could let the posters know? -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listownersPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have been notified by an owner that an email I sent today was held for approval.  Turned out it might have been the -L in the email address.  I sent one without it, it went through.  However, I also sent the same message with the L to a couple of lists I admin and it went through fine. Of the -L is stopping emails not to post to the various lists, shouldn't we have been notified so we could let the posters know? -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

It's not hidden on the original post. Just in the archives. Mike On 8/20/2018 1:37 PM, Dan M wrote: > I dont see how that is even close to a good idea for genealogy lists. > How the heck would one contact a person in private just for one on one > communication? > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 10:31 AM Anne Mitchell <annerootsweb@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The hiding of email addresses is intentional. We will not be making that >> public. >>

Just watching the parade of messages on the ListOwners list, a lot of it seems half-baked to me. No problem, I'll deal with what I am given, but some of the rules and settings are silly. Keith, listowner, South-Africa On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:19 PM Dan M <mygenrw2@gmail.com> wrote: > I dont see how that is even close to a good idea for genealogy lists. > How the heck would one contact a person in private just for one on one > communication? > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 10:31 AM Anne Mitchell <annerootsweb@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The hiding of email addresses is intentional. We will not be making that > > public. > > > > I realize that some of you may disagree with this policy, but Ancestry > > policy is not to publically share email addresses and we will follow > that. > > > > And that is the definitive answer :-) > > > > Anne > > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:11 PM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Sherry > > > > > > I don't think its either intentional or a glitch > > > > > > I think the removal (or hiding) of email addresses in the archives *is* > > > intentional so as there are no potential law suits, rather ridiculous > as > > > we all post knowing full well the address would be available, its a > huge > > > detriment to the usefulness of the archives not having the email > address > > > of the poster, or in many cases the name of the poster (many now have > > > "List user") > > > > > > Re the deleting of your own posts, there has always been a facility to > > > request a deletion of a post, very few actually did so, and usually > > > immediately after posting something in error or to remove a spam post > > > > > > The situation now as a user facility is most likely due to the newer > > > software, and the users capability to operate, which has moved on leaps > > > and bounds over the years > > > > > > I have no particular problem in users being able to delete their own > > > posts, I doubt many will do so, to do so you would first need to know > > > you can do it, I for one will not be broadcasting it, and to do so they > > > will need to use the archives, which frankly are almost useless now and > > > awkward to navigate > > > > > > Everyone knows their internet presence is far greater than it ever has > > > been, that is good in one way and bad in another but as I said > > > previously, all who use mailing lists know full well we are doing so in > > > the public eye as it were > > > > > > Not sure you will get a definitive answer as I don't believe there is > one > > > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > On 19/08/2018 14:43, Sherry Landa wrote: > > > > I am wondering- if this is intentional, and not a glitch, whether it > > > > is due to GDPR? Older posts show our email address. Even ones that > > > > don't now show that, make you identifiable if you have a name like > > > > mine and sign them in the way I was taught to do viz Name (Location). > > > > > > > > I feel that deleting past posts is as wide as it is long. Whilst > > > > someone might have posted something they now regret, or leaves them > > > > vulnerable in some way that they wish to remove (and we were always > > > > told that we owned our own posts), at the same time the archives > could > > > > start to look very random with responses to posts that have been > > > > deleted. What happens to the part of my post that was quoted in the > > > > reply- is it still mine? Presumably not. What if someone failed to > > > > snip back per equiette from a bygone age and my entire post is > > > > requoted in a reply? 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Lin, when we find them, we delete them. Feel free to send the ones you find rwsupport@ancestry.com On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:20 PM Lin Duke <dml5481@hotmail.com> wrote: > As I said earlier, some ARE visible in threads. > > Lin > > On 20/08/2018 19:37, Dan M wrote: > > I realize that some of you may disagree with this policy, but Ancestry > > policy is not to publically share email addresses and we will follow > that. > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

But as I said previously, that is rather pointless, in a great many cases the original poster has left that list Many join for one or two posts then unsubscribe Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/08/2018 20:40, Wendy Howard wrote: > Here's a radical idea - join that mailing list and post to it. > > Wendy

Here's a radical idea - join that mailing list and post to it. Wendy On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:07 AM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Your only hope now in contacting an old poster, is to hope they are > still on that list > > Which is very unlikely in a great number of cases > > I have yet to find a post in any archives with an email address though, > I will keep my eyes open > > I have had several email addresses over the years, yet still got > contacted right up to the change in March, not had one since > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 20/08/2018 20:02, Lin Duke wrote: > > Did a search in the archives (cumbersome and time consuming) and found > > a topic I would like to contact the poster about. How does one do that > > now with no email showing? > > > > I did however see a reply to one post where the original poster's email > > WAS showing! > > > > My original post concerned a member whose posts popped up in google with > > his old email address so he wanted to remove them as he is no longer > > contactable using it. > > > > > > Lin >

That's because you have a unique name, Nivard, and so if you signed a post I'd just Google you for an up-to-date email. If that failed (or you did not have such a great name) I would contact the admin of the list where the post appears and ask if they had contact details for you. Some may, others may not. I had a request (not through archives) last week. I was able to find the subscriber from their name. I was then able to cross-check against my personal contacts as I have emailed them before. From there I just sent an email to both addresses pretty sure that one address was defunct but the gmail one would work-which it did. The difficulty with this lies in lists that a) do not have uniquely named subscribers (SMITH list would be a problem); b) the list admin doesn't "know" the subscriber; c) the list admin is new(ish) and doesn't have a bank of contacts from years of adminning a list; d) the subscriber is no longer subscribed and / or has changed their email from something obvious to something not so obvious; e) the list is a very busy one (or was like YORKSGEN) where there were thousands of members who came and went and then who would know which John Smith is the one you want from the 3 others that were members in the 1990s. What isn't happening now, is people asking admin for help to contact posters. This could be a blessing on busy and difficult lists. However, it does make the archives IMHO largely useless. Plus, it doesn't answer the question of why some posts are "deletable" and others not and what happens if a post is deleted by the poster, where there are replies that a) will make no sense unless some of the original was pasted in and b) the reply includes the full original with the erroneous information in it (as stated by Lin an old email address). Sherry Landa (26000 Valence, France) On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 20:07, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Your only hope now in contacting an old poster, is to hope they are > still on that list > > Which is very unlikely in a great number of cases > > I have yet to find a post in any archives with an email address though, > I will keep my eyes open > > I have had several email addresses over the years, yet still got > contacted right up to the change in March, not had one since > > > My original post concerned a member whose posts popped up in google with > > his old email address so he wanted to remove them as he is no longer > > contactable using it.

Fair enough. To have a post removed from the archives, you should send the information to rwsupport@ancestry.com and it will be taken care of it the reason is good. Anne On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:16 AM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Anne > > I don't think that was the definitive answer to the question they asked > about ;-) > > I thought the question was about the deletion of posts > > PS I can see why Ancestry are hiding the addresses, it just nullifies > the usefulness of the archives > > I have not had an enquiry from a past post since before March 2018, > whereas I used to get at least one a month and often more > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 20/08/2018 18:30, Anne Mitchell wrote: > > The hiding of email addresses is intentional. We will not be making that > > public. > > > > I realize that some of you may disagree with this policy, but Ancestry > > policy is not to publically share email addresses and we will follow > that. > > > > And that is the definitive answer :-) > > > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Your only hope now in contacting an old poster, is to hope they are still on that list Which is very unlikely in a great number of cases I have yet to find a post in any archives with an email address though, I will keep my eyes open I have had several email addresses over the years, yet still got contacted right up to the change in March, not had one since Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/08/2018 20:02, Lin Duke wrote: > Did a search in the archives (cumbersome and time consuming) and found > a topic I would like to contact the poster about. How does one do that > now with no email showing? > > I did however see a reply to one post where the original poster's email > WAS showing! > > My original post concerned a member whose posts popped up in google with > his old email address so he wanted to remove them as he is no longer > contactable  using it. > > > Lin

I dont see how that is even close to a good idea for genealogy lists. How the heck would one contact a person in private just for one on one communication? On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 10:31 AM Anne Mitchell <annerootsweb@gmail.com> wrote: > The hiding of email addresses is intentional. We will not be making that > public. > > I realize that some of you may disagree with this policy, but Ancestry > policy is not to publically share email addresses and we will follow that. > > And that is the definitive answer :-) > > Anne > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:11 PM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Sherry > > > > I don't think its either intentional or a glitch > > > > I think the removal (or hiding) of email addresses in the archives *is* > > intentional so as there are no potential law suits, rather ridiculous as > > we all post knowing full well the address would be available, its a huge > > detriment to the usefulness of the archives not having the email address > > of the poster, or in many cases the name of the poster (many now have > > "List user") > > > > Re the deleting of your own posts, there has always been a facility to > > request a deletion of a post, very few actually did so, and usually > > immediately after posting something in error or to remove a spam post > > > > The situation now as a user facility is most likely due to the newer > > software, and the users capability to operate, which has moved on leaps > > and bounds over the years > > > > I have no particular problem in users being able to delete their own > > posts, I doubt many will do so, to do so you would first need to know > > you can do it, I for one will not be broadcasting it, and to do so they > > will need to use the archives, which frankly are almost useless now and > > awkward to navigate > > > > Everyone knows their internet presence is far greater than it ever has > > been, that is good in one way and bad in another but as I said > > previously, all who use mailing lists know full well we are doing so in > > the public eye as it were > > > > Not sure you will get a definitive answer as I don't believe there is one > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > On 19/08/2018 14:43, Sherry Landa wrote: > > > I am wondering- if this is intentional, and not a glitch, whether it > > > is due to GDPR? Older posts show our email address. Even ones that > > > don't now show that, make you identifiable if you have a name like > > > mine and sign them in the way I was taught to do viz Name (Location). > > > > > > I feel that deleting past posts is as wide as it is long. Whilst > > > someone might have posted something they now regret, or leaves them > > > vulnerable in some way that they wish to remove (and we were always > > > told that we owned our own posts), at the same time the archives could > > > start to look very random with responses to posts that have been > > > deleted. What happens to the part of my post that was quoted in the > > > reply- is it still mine? Presumably not. What if someone failed to > > > snip back per equiette from a bygone age and my entire post is > > > requoted in a reply? Quagmire....technology has moved on so much since > > > we started and as a result there is more out there about us than many > > > of us would have imagined, and we are potentiall more susceptible to > > > being scammed/abused than most of us thought 20 years ago. > > > > > > It would be good to have a definitive answer regarding this, rather > > > than us all trying to figure it out on our own. > > > > > > BW > > > Sherry Landa (34500 Beziers, France) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives > > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Anne I don't think that was the definitive answer to the question they asked about ;-) I thought the question was about the deletion of posts PS I can see why Ancestry are hiding the addresses, it just nullifies the usefulness of the archives I have not had an enquiry from a past post since before March 2018, whereas I used to get at least one a month and often more Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/08/2018 18:30, Anne Mitchell wrote: > The hiding of email addresses is intentional. We will not be making that > public. > > I realize that some of you may disagree with this policy, but Ancestry > policy is not to publically share email addresses and we will follow that. > > And that is the definitive answer :-) > > Anne

The hiding of email addresses is intentional. We will not be making that public. I realize that some of you may disagree with this policy, but Ancestry policy is not to publically share email addresses and we will follow that. And that is the definitive answer :-) Anne On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 1:11 PM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sherry > > I don't think its either intentional or a glitch > > I think the removal (or hiding) of email addresses in the archives *is* > intentional so as there are no potential law suits, rather ridiculous as > we all post knowing full well the address would be available, its a huge > detriment to the usefulness of the archives not having the email address > of the poster, or in many cases the name of the poster (many now have > "List user") > > Re the deleting of your own posts, there has always been a facility to > request a deletion of a post, very few actually did so, and usually > immediately after posting something in error or to remove a spam post > > The situation now as a user facility is most likely due to the newer > software, and the users capability to operate, which has moved on leaps > and bounds over the years > > I have no particular problem in users being able to delete their own > posts, I doubt many will do so, to do so you would first need to know > you can do it, I for one will not be broadcasting it, and to do so they > will need to use the archives, which frankly are almost useless now and > awkward to navigate > > Everyone knows their internet presence is far greater than it ever has > been, that is good in one way and bad in another but as I said > previously, all who use mailing lists know full well we are doing so in > the public eye as it were > > Not sure you will get a definitive answer as I don't believe there is one > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 19/08/2018 14:43, Sherry Landa wrote: > > I am wondering- if this is intentional, and not a glitch, whether it > > is due to GDPR? Older posts show our email address. Even ones that > > don't now show that, make you identifiable if you have a name like > > mine and sign them in the way I was taught to do viz Name (Location). > > > > I feel that deleting past posts is as wide as it is long. Whilst > > someone might have posted something they now regret, or leaves them > > vulnerable in some way that they wish to remove (and we were always > > told that we owned our own posts), at the same time the archives could > > start to look very random with responses to posts that have been > > deleted. What happens to the part of my post that was quoted in the > > reply- is it still mine? Presumably not. What if someone failed to > > snip back per equiette from a bygone age and my entire post is > > requoted in a reply? Quagmire....technology has moved on so much since > > we started and as a result there is more out there about us than many > > of us would have imagined, and we are potentiall more susceptible to > > being scammed/abused than most of us thought 20 years ago. > > > > It would be good to have a definitive answer regarding this, rather > > than us all trying to figure it out on our own. > > > > BW > > Sherry Landa (34500 Beziers, France) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Sherry I don't think its either intentional or a glitch I think the removal (or hiding) of email addresses in the archives *is* intentional so as there are no potential law suits, rather ridiculous as we all post knowing full well the address would be available, its a huge detriment to the usefulness of the archives not having the email address of the poster, or in many cases the name of the poster (many now have "List user") Re the deleting of your own posts, there has always been a facility to request a deletion of a post, very few actually did so, and usually immediately after posting something in error or to remove a spam post The situation now as a user facility is most likely due to the newer software, and the users capability to operate, which has moved on leaps and bounds over the years I have no particular problem in users being able to delete their own posts, I doubt many will do so, to do so you would first need to know you can do it, I for one will not be broadcasting it, and to do so they will need to use the archives, which frankly are almost useless now and awkward to navigate Everyone knows their internet presence is far greater than it ever has been, that is good in one way and bad in another but as I said previously, all who use mailing lists know full well we are doing so in the public eye as it were Not sure you will get a definitive answer as I don't believe there is one Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 19/08/2018 14:43, Sherry Landa wrote: > I am wondering- if this is intentional, and not a glitch, whether it > is due to GDPR? Older posts show our email address. Even ones that > don't now show that, make you identifiable if you have a name like > mine and sign them in the way I was taught to do viz Name (Location). > > I feel that deleting past posts is as wide as it is long. Whilst > someone might have posted something they now regret, or leaves them > vulnerable in some way that they wish to remove (and we were always > told that we owned our own posts), at the same time the archives could > start to look very random with responses to posts that have been > deleted. What happens to the part of my post that was quoted in the > reply- is it still mine? Presumably not. What if someone failed to > snip back per equiette from a bygone age and my entire post is > requoted in a reply? Quagmire....technology has moved on so much since > we started and as a result there is more out there about us than many > of us would have imagined, and we are potentiall more susceptible to > being scammed/abused than most of us thought 20 years ago. > > It would be good to have a definitive answer regarding this, rather > than us all trying to figure it out on our own. > > BW > Sherry Landa (34500 Beziers, France) >

The correct attitude is: If you put it on a mailing list, it is out there forever, for any one to see. I am careful with what I post, and avoid posting information about living people. I also avoid publishing information in a form that can be easily mass copied, such as a GEDCOM file. Seeking to delete information you have posted on the Internet is just futility. Keith On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 10:49 AM Joan Young via LISTOWNERS < listowners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > It would also defeat the entire purpose of an archive...which is to be a > repository for what happened in the past on a list, much like the minutes > of a meeting. > > > > > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> > To: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com>; LISTOWNERS <listowners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2018 4:17 am > Subject: [LO] Re: Old posts > > If that true then that moves that subject to the very top of the > "fix-it-now" list. Some upset subber gets in there and can delete the > entire file. > > Janet > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:48 PM Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > It appears to be possible, Lin, though I haven't tried it. Find your > post > > in the archives, open it, and a bin with "Delete This Post" in blue > appears > > on the upper right of the message. Since posts I know to have existed > have > > mysteriously disappeared from the archives of one list, I presume it > works. > > > > Lynne > > > > > > > > >Mike Flannigan <mikeflan@att.net> wrote: > > >Subject: [LO] Re: Old posts > > > > > > > > >No, the archives cannot be changed by list members. > > > > > > > > >Mike > > > > > > > > >On 8/18/2018 12:57 PM, Lin Duke wrote: > > >> Is it possible for a member to delete their own posts (lot of years > ago > > >> with an old e-mail address). > > >> > > >> Lin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives > > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

It would also defeat the entire purpose of an archive...which is to be a repository for what happened in the past on a list, much like the minutes of a meeting. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com>; LISTOWNERS <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2018 4:17 am Subject: [LO] Re: Old posts If that true then that moves that subject to the very top of the "fix-it-now" list. Some upset subber gets in there and can delete the entire file. Janet On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:48 PM Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > It appears to be possible, Lin, though I haven't tried it. Find your post > in the archives, open it, and a bin with "Delete This Post" in blue appears > on the upper right of the message. Since posts I know to have existed have > mysteriously disappeared from the archives of one list, I presume it works. > > Lynne > > > > >Mike Flannigan <mikeflan@att.net> wrote: > >Subject: [LO] Re: Old posts > > > > > >No, the archives cannot be changed by list members. > > > > > >Mike > > > > > >On 8/18/2018 12:57 PM, Lin Duke wrote: > >> Is it possible for a member to delete their own posts (lot of years ago > >> with an old e-mail address). > >> > >> Lin > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It appears that this policy was not written up in a public way, or at least not where we can find it today.  I suspect this procedure may delete your post from being visual today, but does not really delete the post behind the scenes.  And if the lists are ever recreated, like they just were, those posts would show up again. That is pure speculation, and I may be wrong, but it would behoove everyone to act as if anything they do electronically may not go away for a very long time - perhaps in their lifetime and beyond. Mike I see from the archives that GDPR is https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/lawful-basis-for-processing/consent/ Good intentions.  We will see how that works out. On 8/19/2018 8:43 AM, Sherry Landa wrote: > I am wondering- if this is intentional, and not a glitch, whether it > is due to GDPR? Older posts show our email address. Even ones that > don't now show that, make you identifiable if you have a name like > mine and sign them in the way I was taught to do viz Name (Location). > > I feel that deleting past posts is as wide as it is long. Whilst > someone might have posted something they now regret, or leaves them > vulnerable in some way that they wish to remove (and we were always > told that we owned our own posts), at the same time the archives could > start to look very random with responses to posts that have been > deleted. What happens to the part of my post that was quoted in the > reply- is it still mine? Presumably not. What if someone failed to > snip back per equiette from a bygone age and my entire post is > requoted in a reply? Quagmire....technology has moved on so much since > we started and as a result there is more out there about us than many > of us would have imagined, and we are potentiall more susceptible to > being scammed/abused than most of us thought 20 years ago. > > It would be good to have a definitive answer regarding this, rather > than us all trying to figure it out on our own. > > BW > Sherry Landa (34500 Beziers, France) > >

I am wondering- if this is intentional, and not a glitch, whether it is due to GDPR? Older posts show our email address. Even ones that don't now show that, make you identifiable if you have a name like mine and sign them in the way I was taught to do viz Name (Location). I feel that deleting past posts is as wide as it is long. Whilst someone might have posted something they now regret, or leaves them vulnerable in some way that they wish to remove (and we were always told that we owned our own posts), at the same time the archives could start to look very random with responses to posts that have been deleted. What happens to the part of my post that was quoted in the reply- is it still mine? Presumably not. What if someone failed to snip back per equiette from a bygone age and my entire post is requoted in a reply? Quagmire....technology has moved on so much since we started and as a result there is more out there about us than many of us would have imagined, and we are potentiall more susceptible to being scammed/abused than most of us thought 20 years ago. It would be good to have a definitive answer regarding this, rather than us all trying to figure it out on our own. BW Sherry Landa (34500 Beziers, France) > It seems inconsistent Nivard. I can see a message I posted in 2014 which I > don't have a delete button on but one from 2010 which does offer [delete] > I think deletion should be a rare and privileged operation though, I > always assumed it required a request (with explanation) to rootsweb and > would be subjec to their policies.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 11:12:39 +0100, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > I checked a different lists archives, the earliest with the delete link > on that was August 2016 It seems inconsistent Nivard. I can see a message I posted in 2014 which I don't have a delete button on but one from 2010 which does offer [delete] ... I think deletion should be a rare and privileged operation though, I always assumed it required a request (with explanation) to rootsweb and would be subjec to their policies. Malcolm. > On 19/08/2018 10:11, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> I had a quick look in the archives >> Checking my own posts it seems the "Delete this message" only appears >> on my own posts and only in more recent archives >> The earliest I found with the message link to delete was November 2016 >> Those in the older archives do not have the delete this message link >> or at least not on my own posts > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/listowners > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community -- Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@weald.org.uk>