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    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. See ya all on the flip side! Member since the printer cartridge spammer took down the other server. Chuck Gibson Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Richard Berkheiser <ricksbookshelf@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree that many lists died years ago. The vast majority of the surname > lists are the ones that totally fell asleep and should not be considered > for moving. I do have some county lists I moved to groups.io that were > long dead on RW that actually perked back to life. If we had a set up like > groups.io here on Rootsweb I don't think we would be in the situation we > are now. What I love about the new set up is an individual list group > becomes more like a mini web page. > > I wasn't thrilled about moving several hundred county lists, but after some > serious thought, I did the migration. I apologize to anyone I may have > been crabby to the past month and a half. :) > > Let's keep at it with Ancestry to fix the boards before they suffer a > similar fate. My laundry list of bugs to fix keeps getting longer and > longer and... > > Rick B > >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:31 AM Joan Young via LISTOWNERS < >> listowners@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> I wouldn't worry about it at this point. I will say you help to prove my >> belief that lists really died (most of them) long ago. This is one reason I >> didn't move any of my lists to io or elsewhere and have emphasized that we >> have allied boards (which hopefully will be fixed and the glitches tended >> to) and Facebok groups. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/02/2020 09:08:52
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Richard Berkheiser
    3. I agree that many lists died years ago. The vast majority of the surname lists are the ones that totally fell asleep and should not be considered for moving. I do have some county lists I moved to groups.io that were long dead on RW that actually perked back to life. If we had a set up like groups.io here on Rootsweb I don't think we would be in the situation we are now. What I love about the new set up is an individual list group becomes more like a mini web page. I wasn't thrilled about moving several hundred county lists, but after some serious thought, I did the migration. I apologize to anyone I may have been crabby to the past month and a half. :) Let's keep at it with Ancestry to fix the boards before they suffer a similar fate. My laundry list of bugs to fix keeps getting longer and longer and... Rick B On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 10:31 AM Joan Young via LISTOWNERS < listowners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I wouldn't worry about it at this point. I will say you help to prove my > belief that lists really died (most of them) long ago. This is one reason I > didn't move any of my lists to io or elsewhere and have emphasized that we > have allied boards (which hopefully will be fixed and the glitches tended > to) and Facebok groups. > > >

    03/02/2020 08:50:08
    1. [LO] Goodbye all.
    2. J Asche
    3. Just want to say that I enjoyed my time as a listowner and being apart of this community. Over the years we have lost good people when they went to join their ancestors but losing the mailing lists seems like a terminal illness of the Internet -- if you know what I mean. At any rate, I would like to thank all of you who have helped me and have been a help to others. I would like to give a special shoutout to Joan Young who without her assistance I would not have survived all these years. Once again all, hope to see on in the io lists. Sincerely, Joan Asche member since the late 1990s.

    03/02/2020 08:44:24
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Joan Young
    3. I wouldn't worry about it at this point. I will say you help to prove my belief that lists really died (most of them) long ago. This is one reason I didn't move any of my lists to io or elsewhere and have emphasized that we have allied boards (which hopefully will be fixed and the glitches tended to) and Facebok groups. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Janie Kimble <imjaniejac@gmail.com> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 10:17 am Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing Through out the last month or so I've been getting all these emails about the list closing.  If I was ever a list owner, I've forgotten about it.  I keep wondering if I've missed something I should have been tending to or why am I on the list owners mailing list? Is there any way to find out? Janie On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 AM Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> wrote: > Anne, > > Thank you. It is very frustrating. > > To be clear: The existing Boards have a button you can click to become the > Administrator of an existing Board. > > Their response, if you click that button, is they will not create a new > Board. > > I spent my career managing the production of complex software. It is clear > to me that Ancestry has no clue how to do this. Did anyone ever hear them > mention a software version, a beta test, or a release date? > > It seems to me they are chasing an imaginary pot of gold at the end of the > DNA testing rainbow. > > Keith > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:15 AM Anne Halford <amhalford@live.com> wrote: > > > I was surprised the messages are still coming! > > Keith and Glen that sounds about par for any website Ancestry owns or > > makes rules for .  Maybe they'll reconsider... unless they have you > > black-listed as troublemakera. > >  Rootsweb/Ancestry won't let me re-register to get to my WorldConnect > tree > > to update it.  (I've tried many times and even wrote for help and sent > > clips of messages from the registration page)  I've had my website for > abt. > > 20 years and always kept it updated.    I had about 37,000 well > documented > > entries when they froze it. Maybe they are afraid I'll remove it instead. > > They reformatted it and deleted all the sources, documentation and notes > so > > it's value to others as a dependable research site is diminished, and I > > can't use it as a back-up > > > > Anne Fender Halford > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:35 AM > > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > > listowners@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > > > > > Tim Stowell > > > > > > > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! > > > > Valorie > > > > PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I > > > > think of the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the > > > > spammers are going to get when the list server shuts down. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > -- > +1.248.891.6434 > Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/02/2020 08:31:01
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Janie Kimble
    3. Through out the last month or so I've been getting all these emails about the list closing. If I was ever a list owner, I've forgotten about it. I keep wondering if I've missed something I should have been tending to or why am I on the list owners mailing list? Is there any way to find out? Janie On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:12 AM Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> wrote: > Anne, > > Thank you. It is very frustrating. > > To be clear: The existing Boards have a button you can click to become the > Administrator of an existing Board. > > Their response, if you click that button, is they will not create a new > Board. > > I spent my career managing the production of complex software. It is clear > to me that Ancestry has no clue how to do this. Did anyone ever hear them > mention a software version, a beta test, or a release date? > > It seems to me they are chasing an imaginary pot of gold at the end of the > DNA testing rainbow. > > Keith > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:15 AM Anne Halford <amhalford@live.com> wrote: > > > I was surprised the messages are still coming! > > Keith and Glen that sounds about par for any website Ancestry owns or > > makes rules for . Maybe they'll reconsider... unless they have you > > black-listed as troublemakera. > > Rootsweb/Ancestry won't let me re-register to get to my WorldConnect > tree > > to update it. (I've tried many times and even wrote for help and sent > > clips of messages from the registration page) I've had my website for > abt. > > 20 years and always kept it updated. I had about 37,000 well > documented > > entries when they froze it. Maybe they are afraid I'll remove it instead. > > They reformatted it and deleted all the sources, documentation and notes > so > > it's value to others as a dependable research site is diminished, and I > > can't use it as a back-up > > > > Anne Fender Halford > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:35 AM > > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > > listowners@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > > > > > Tim Stowell > > > > > > > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! > > > > Valorie > > > > PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I > > > > think of the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the > > > > spammers are going to get when the list server shuts down. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > -- > +1.248.891.6434 > Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    03/02/2020 08:16:23
    1. [LO] boards (was Re: Lists closing)
    2. Lynne
    3. Keith, as Joan wrote, the boards are beyond flaky at the moment. This morning I received two emails from Ancestry, each with the subject "Your new board creation request." Both messages denied my request to create new boards. The only glitch? I had requested those boards be created years (yes, years!) ago. They were created back then and I've been the boards' admin ever since. Since Saturday I've been unable to edit or move any messages. This morning I was unable to post. I'm leaving the boards alone for a little while until they get straightened out. Lynne

    03/02/2020 08:09:37
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Joan Young
    3. Keith- But that is yet another part of the existing glitches with the boards. The Board Info is blank for most boards -- those with admins. Mine are all blank and nothing I've tried to do fixes that. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Cc: Joan Young <jyoung6180@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 9:10 am Subject: Re: [LO] Re: Lists closing Joan, I specifically looked at the listing for the Administrator of the Board and it was blank. Now, one would expect there is an incident form I can fill out and get a case number and expect a follow-up ... Keith | | Virus-free. www.avast.com | On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 8:56 AM Joan Young via LISTOWNERS <listowners@rootsweb.com> wrote:  Keith- I'm not sure this is what is happening BUT I can tell you that due to glitches as they work on the boards currently, there are a lot of boards that have a Volunteer to Admin link on them that already have an admin. Obviously that doesn't explain why the rejection says they won't create a new board which is not what you were asking for but it may actually be that the existing board already has an admin despite the volunteer notice. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 5:12 am Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing Anne, Thank you. It is very frustrating. To be clear: The existing Boards have a button you can click to become the Administrator of an existing Board. Their response, if you click that button, is they will not create a new Board. I spent my career managing the production of complex software. It is clear to me that Ancestry has no clue how to do this. Did anyone ever hear them mention a software version, a beta test, or a release date? It seems to me they are chasing an imaginary pot of gold at the end of the DNA testing rainbow. Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:15 AM Anne Halford <amhalford@live.com> wrote: > I was surprised the messages are still coming! > Keith and Glen that sounds about par for any website Ancestry owns or > makes rules for .  Maybe they'll reconsider... unless they have you > black-listed as troublemakera. >  Rootsweb/Ancestry won't let me re-register to get to my WorldConnect tree > to update it.  (I've tried many times and even wrote for help and sent > clips of messages from the registration page)  I've had my website for abt. > 20 years and always kept it updated.    I had about 37,000 well documented > entries when they froze it. Maybe they are afraid I'll remove it instead. > They reformatted it and deleted all the sources, documentation and notes so > it's value to others as a dependable research site is diminished, and I > can't use it as a back-up > > Anne Fender Halford > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:35 AM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > listowners@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > > > Tim Stowell > > > > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! > > Valorie > > PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I > > > think of the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the > > > spammers are going to get when the list server shuts down. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- +1.248.891.6434Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) | | Virus-free. www.avast.com |

    03/02/2020 07:36:15
    1. [LO] Re: Is there any way
    2. Joan Young
    3. I think your best hope would be to put the URL/link to the new list on the List settings page (before that gets shut down) providing the New URL The url to refer to in the future for this mailinglist. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 9:14 am Subject: [LO] Re: Is there any way Your best hope is simply to send a message to the list and hope it is posted. I am still getting messages about new (spam) postings on my list. There has been talk that the future message archives will be able to show a continuation list. I have not seen this, and it is anyone's guess whether such a field can be updated after today. Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 9:05 AM Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > to update a list (closed months ago) to show the new io.group? > > Just started it last night! > > Thanks, > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/02/2020 07:34:46
    1. [LO] Re: Is there any way
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. Your best hope is simply to send a message to the list and hope it is posted. I am still getting messages about new (spam) postings on my list. There has been talk that the future message archives will be able to show a continuation list. I have not seen this, and it is anyone's guess whether such a field can be updated after today. Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 9:05 AM Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > to update a list (closed months ago) to show the new io.group? > > Just started it last night! > > Thanks, > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

    03/02/2020 07:13:36
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. Joan, I specifically looked at the listing for the Administrator of the Board and it was blank. Now, one would expect there is an incident form I can fill out and get a case number and expect a follow-up ... Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 8:56 AM Joan Young via LISTOWNERS < listowners@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Keith- > I'm not sure this is what is happening BUT I can tell you that due to > glitches as they work on the boards currently, there are a lot of boards > that have a Volunteer to Admin link on them that already have an admin. > Obviously that doesn't explain why the rejection says they won't create a > new board which is not what you were asking for but it may actually be that > the existing board already has an admin despite the volunteer notice. > > Joan Young > jyoung6180@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > listowners@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 5:12 am > Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing > > Anne, > > Thank you. It is very frustrating. > > To be clear: The existing Boards have a button you can click to become the > Administrator of an existing Board. > > Their response, if you click that button, is they will not create a new > Board. > > I spent my career managing the production of complex software. It is clear > to me that Ancestry has no clue how to do this. Did anyone ever hear them > mention a software version, a beta test, or a release date? > > It seems to me they are chasing an imaginary pot of gold at the end of the > DNA testing rainbow. > > Keith > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:15 AM Anne Halford <amhalford@live.com> wrote: > > > I was surprised the messages are still coming! > > Keith and Glen that sounds about par for any website Ancestry owns or > > makes rules for . Maybe they'll reconsider... unless they have you > > black-listed as troublemakera. > > Rootsweb/Ancestry won't let me re-register to get to my WorldConnect > tree > > to update it. (I've tried many times and even wrote for help and sent > > clips of messages from the registration page) I've had my website for > abt. > > 20 years and always kept it updated. I had about 37,000 well > documented > > entries when they froze it. Maybe they are afraid I'll remove it instead. > > They reformatted it and deleted all the sources, documentation and notes > so > > it's value to others as a dependable research site is diminished, and I > > can't use it as a back-up > > > > Anne Fender Halford > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:35 AM > > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > > listowners@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > > > > > Tim Stowell > > > > > > > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! > > > > Valorie > > > > PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I > > > > think of the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the > > > > spammers are going to get when the list server shuts down. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > -- > +1.248.891.6434 > Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

    03/02/2020 07:10:17
    1. [LO] Is there any way
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. to update a list (closed months ago) to show the new io.group? Just started it last night! Thanks, Chris

    03/02/2020 07:05:32
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Joan Young
    3. Keith- I'm not sure this is what is happening BUT I can tell you that due to glitches as they work on the boards currently, there are a lot of boards that have a Volunteer to Admin link on them that already have an admin. Obviously that doesn't explain why the rejection says they won't create a new board which is not what you were asking for but it may actually be that the existing board already has an admin despite the volunteer notice. Joan Young jyoung6180@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 2, 2020 5:12 am Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing Anne, Thank you. It is very frustrating. To be clear: The existing Boards have a button you can click to become the Administrator of an existing Board. Their response, if you click that button, is they will not create a new Board. I spent my career managing the production of complex software. It is clear to me that Ancestry has no clue how to do this. Did anyone ever hear them mention a software version, a beta test, or a release date? It seems to me they are chasing an imaginary pot of gold at the end of the DNA testing rainbow. Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:15 AM Anne Halford <amhalford@live.com> wrote: > I was surprised the messages are still coming! > Keith and Glen that sounds about par for any website Ancestry owns or > makes rules for .  Maybe they'll reconsider... unless they have you > black-listed as troublemakera. >  Rootsweb/Ancestry won't let me re-register to get to my WorldConnect tree > to update it.  (I've tried many times and even wrote for help and sent > clips of messages from the registration page)  I've had my website for abt. > 20 years and always kept it updated.    I had about 37,000 well documented > entries when they froze it. Maybe they are afraid I'll remove it instead. > They reformatted it and deleted all the sources, documentation and notes so > it's value to others as a dependable research site is diminished, and I > can't use it as a back-up > > Anne Fender Halford > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:35 AM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > listowners@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > > > Tim Stowell > > > > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! > > Valorie > > PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I > > > think of the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the > > > spammers are going to get when the list server shuts down. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/02/2020 06:56:14
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. Nivard, Yes, I was signed in. All I had to do was click the button. I was not asked to then provide an ID or e-mail address. The bot reply came to my e-mail address. Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 3:28 AM Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Keith > > Were you signed in when you applied? > > Just wondering if that might be a factor? > > But I know there have been/are glitches with the boards of late > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/03/2020 06:33, Keith Meintjes wrote: > > Again, > > > > If they turn out the lights at Rootsweb, how would we know? > > > > I am simply irritated. I found an existing Bulletin Board with no > > administrator that is relevant to my interests. So, I clicked on the > button > > to apply to be the administrator. > > > > I got a reply refusing my request to create a new Board. For the > following > > reason: > > > > (Yes, the reason field is blank.) > > > > Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

    03/02/2020 05:05:24
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. Anne, Thank you. It is very frustrating. To be clear: The existing Boards have a button you can click to become the Administrator of an existing Board. Their response, if you click that button, is they will not create a new Board. I spent my career managing the production of complex software. It is clear to me that Ancestry has no clue how to do this. Did anyone ever hear them mention a software version, a beta test, or a release date? It seems to me they are chasing an imaginary pot of gold at the end of the DNA testing rainbow. Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 2:15 AM Anne Halford <amhalford@live.com> wrote: > I was surprised the messages are still coming! > Keith and Glen that sounds about par for any website Ancestry owns or > makes rules for . Maybe they'll reconsider... unless they have you > black-listed as troublemakera. > Rootsweb/Ancestry won't let me re-register to get to my WorldConnect tree > to update it. (I've tried many times and even wrote for help and sent > clips of messages from the registration page) I've had my website for abt. > 20 years and always kept it updated. I had about 37,000 well documented > entries when they froze it. Maybe they are afraid I'll remove it instead. > They reformatted it and deleted all the sources, documentation and notes so > it's value to others as a dependable research site is diminished, and I > can't use it as a back-up > > Anne Fender Halford > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:35 AM > To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators < > listowners@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > > > Tim Stowell > > > > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! > > Valorie > > PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I > > > think of the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the > > > spammers are going to get when the list server shuts down. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

    03/02/2020 03:12:23
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Keith Were you signed in when you applied? Just wondering if that might be a factor? But I know there have been/are glitches with the boards of late Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/03/2020 06:33, Keith Meintjes wrote: > Again, > > If they turn out the lights at Rootsweb, how would we know? > > I am simply irritated. I found an existing Bulletin Board with no > administrator that is relevant to my interests. So, I clicked on the button > to apply to be the administrator. > > I got a reply refusing my request to create a new Board. For the following > reason: > > (Yes, the reason field is blank.) > > Keith

    03/02/2020 01:28:35
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. M. Diane Rogers
    3. Glen and Keith, I received blank refusal messages this morning too re my asking to admin old Boards. Very strange. But all my lists got moved in time and people have joined. Glen, hope we weren't applying for the same Boards. :-) See everyone on the new lists. Diane M Diane Rogers, British Columbia, Canada https://about.me/mdianerogers

    03/02/2020 12:19:36
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Anne Halford
    3. I was surprised the messages are still coming! Keith and Glen that sounds about par for any website Ancestry owns or makes rules for . Maybe they'll reconsider... unless they have you black-listed as troublemakera. Rootsweb/Ancestry won't let me re-register to get to my WorldConnect tree to update it. (I've tried many times and even wrote for help and sent clips of messages from the registration page) I've had my website for abt. 20 years and always kept it updated. I had about 37,000 well documented entries when they froze it. Maybe they are afraid I'll remove it instead. They reformatted it and deleted all the sources, documentation and notes so it's value to others as a dependable research site is diminished, and I can't use it as a back-up Anne Fender Halford -----Original Message----- From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 12:35 AM To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> wrote: > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > Tim Stowell > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! Valorie PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I > > think of the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the > > spammers are going to get when the list server shuts down. > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/02/2020 12:15:01
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Glen Bodie
    3. Me too Keith - I got 5 of those "for no good reason" messages this morning. Regards - Glen C. Bodie Web http://Bodie.CA Snail Mail: 46 Georgia Wynd, Delta, BC, Canada V4M 1A5 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Meintjes <kmeintjes@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 22:34 To: Listowners list for Rootsweb list admins and moderators <listowners@rootsweb.com> Subject: [LO] Re: Lists closing Again, If they turn out the lights at Rootsweb, how would we know? I am simply irritated. I found an existing Bulletin Board with no administrator that is relevant to my interests. So, I clicked on the button to apply to be the administrator. I got a reply refusing my request to create a new Board. For the following reason: (Yes, the reason field is blank.) Keith

    03/01/2020 11:45:50
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> wrote: > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > Tim Stowell > Not me -- I'll miss this list. Bye all! Valorie PS: I won't miss the new mailman one bit though! > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I think of > > the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the spammers are > > going to get when the list server shuts down. >

    03/01/2020 11:35:12
    1. [LO] Re: Lists closing
    2. Keith Meintjes
    3. Again, If they turn out the lights at Rootsweb, how would we know? I am simply irritated. I found an existing Bulletin Board with no administrator that is relevant to my interests. So, I clicked on the button to apply to be the administrator. I got a reply refusing my request to create a new Board. For the following reason: (Yes, the reason field is blank.) Keith <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:35 AM Timothy Stowell <timsetn@gmail.com> wrote: > I trust someone is turning out the lights as we leave! > > Tim Stowell > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:53 PM Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > The only happy thoughts I have about the lists closing is when I think of > > the thousands or maybe hundred of thousands of bounces the spammers are > > going to get when the list server shuts down. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/listowners@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- +1.248.891.6434 Michigan, USA (Eastern Time)

    03/01/2020 11:33:34