This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/156.3 Message Board Post: I am a Liddell Family member trying to find out about my father's family. His name was James William Liddell, he was born in Gorbals in 1939 or 1940, he was a fisherman and worked on a trawler and died when i was 3mths old in 1979 on the 31st of january in fleetwood, england. And i'm just wondering if any of the Liddells r related to me !!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: liddell, liddle, lidell, lidel, lydell, lindell, riddell, little, lydil, liddel, lidell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/165.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Sean-- I'm afraid I have no records that can help you so close in time to the present. Nearly all my time when I'm in the files is devoted to the 1200s-1500s as my ancestors came to North America about that time. Team Liddell et al does have a number of members in Australia and New Zealand who have recent interests very similar to your own. I do have two suggestions for you, however. One of possibly immediate aid, the other a bit longer range. The first is that you visit the Lanarkshire Family History Society's website and post your data there. I don't have their address at my fingertips but Google will get it up easily enough for you. Work through them to see who may respond to your postings wiothin their system. I can't comment more here publicly other than to suggest that the Liddell surname has a responance in their offices. I add that they are an excellent organization and very helpful. Team Liddell et al greatly values our relationship with LFHS. The other suggestion is for you to become a member of Team Liddell et al, and perhaps even join our DNA/mtDNA Study. We have no dues, no assessments, sell nothing and give away everything we possess without copyright usages. Visit our DNA/mtDNA Study site at www.geocities.com/teamliddelldna for information on the team as well as the Study and write me at [email protected] if you have questions about anything I've set out here for you. All it takes to become a member of Team Liddell et al is to provide us with your proper name, your state/county/shire of residence (no cities or phone numbers please), whether or not you'd like to participant in the DNA/mtDNA Study but without obligating yourself, the size of your genealogy files (Avg., Large or Vast--we don't embarrass people by allowing them to admit to "none" or "small"--everyone with us is at least average) and your main genealogy interest area. The first and last you've already provided us. Membership in the Team will allow you to work with the Australian and New Zealander Liddells as well as becoming a part of our worldwide family and to enjoy the pleasures of our communal hearth. Looking forward to hearing from you again. James W. Liddell

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/165.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I wonder if you can help me !!! I am trying to find some information on my father James William Liddell, born in Gorbals on the 17th May 1939/40. He died when i was 3mths old. My father worked on a trawler in Scotland, before moving to Fleetwood, Lancashire, England. Apparently he had a brother who was a Postmaster in the General Office in Glasgow, and a sister who i think was called Shirley ?, that was a mid-wife at the Glasgow Hospital. My father died on the 31/01/1979. He is buried in Fleetwood. A week before my father died there was an inquest into the death of a young fisherman who commited suicide by jumping over board, due to having marital difficulties. It is a mystery as to why my father came to England. Sean. W. Liddell [email protected] 07760446971

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The following represents all of the Liddells I found in the 1860 federal census index. Don't forget to do a search of the list archives now and then. You may find something you overlooked! http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Nancy 1860 U.S. Federal Census Index, Liddell: LIDDELL A J 47 M W SC MS CARROLL VALLEY HILL 1860 LIDDELL A R 31 M W GA GA RANDOLPH CUTHBERT P O 1860 LIDDELL ALEXANDER 37 M W SCOT WI MILWAUKEE 1-WD MILWAUKEE 1860 LIDDELL ANDREW 40 M W SCOT OH HAMILTON 6-WD CINCINNATI 1860 LIDDELL B F 16 F W LA OH BUTLER OXFORD TWP 1860 LIDDELL C J 34 M W GA MS CARROLL CARROLLTON 1860 LIDDELL C J 20 M W MS MS JEFFERSON FAYETTE 1860 LIDDELL CALVIN 34 M M NC TN DAVIDSON 6-WD NASHVILLE 1860 LIDDELL CHAS D 29 M W SC MS PONTOTOC ELLISTOWN P O 1860 LIDDELL E M 40 M W SC MS WINSTON LOUISVILLE 1860 LIDDELL G W 73 M W SC SC PICKENS PICKENS C H P O 1860 LIDDELL GEORGE 54 M W SCOT CA SANTA CRUZ SANTA CRUZ 1860 LIDDELL J H 30 M W NJ TN DAVIDSON 8-WD NASHVILLE 1860 LIDDELL J L 50 M W SC MS WINSTON LOUISVILLE 1860 LIDDELL J M 37 M W GA MS CARROLL SMITHS MILLS 1860 LIDDELL J M 58 M W SC MS WINSTON LOUISVILLE 1860 LIDDELL J R 45 M W MS LA CATAHOULA LITTLE RVR 1860 LIDDELL J W 26 M W SC MS WINSTON LOUISVILLE 1860 LIDDELL JAMES 32 M W SC MS JEFFERSON RODNEY 1860 LIDDELL JAMES B 50 M W SC MS LOWNDES COLUMBUS 1860 LIDDELL JAMES S 68 M W SC MS TIPPAH COTTON PLANT 1860 LIDDELL JAS 60 M W VA OH WARREN LEBANON 1860 LIDDELL JNO S 57 M W SC MS WINSTON LOUISVILLE 1860 LIDDELL JOHN 40 M W ENGL IL MONROE WATERLOO P O 1860 LIDDELL JOHN 56 M W VA MS TISHOMINGO BURNSVILLE P O 1860 LIDDELL JOHN 9 M W PA PA PHILADELPHIA 19-WD PHILADELPHIA 1860 LIDDELL JOSIAH 50 M W ENGL NY NEW YORK 14-WD NEW YORK CITY 1860 LIDDELL M P 18 F W AL AL PERRY MARION 1860 LIDDELL M P 34 M W PA PA ERIE ELK CRK 1860 LIDDELL MARY 66 F W SC TX LAMAR PARIS P O 1860 LIDDELL MARY K 47 F W IREL CA SAN FRANCISCO SAN FRANCISCO 11-DIST 1860 LIDDELL MICHL 35 M W IREL PA PHILADELPHIA 19-WD PHILADELPHIA 1860 LIDDELL MOSES 44 M W GA MS CARROLL CARROLLTON 1860 LIDDELL MOSES 30 M W SC MS TIPPAH COTTON PLANT 1860 LIDDELL NEWTON S 33 M W GA TX LAMAR PARIS P O 1860 LIDDELL ROBERT 66 M W SCOT IL KANE ELGIN 1860 LIDDELL ROBERT 44 M W SCOT PA CLEARFIELD JORDAN TWP 1860 LIDDELL ROBT 18 M W CANA NY NEW YORK 13-WD NEW YORK CITY 1860 LIDDELL THEODOSIA 62 F W NJ NJ MERCER 3-WD TRENTON 1860 LIDDELL THOMAS 29 M W SCOT PA CLEARFIELD CLEARFIELD 1860 LIDDELL W J 29 M W SC MS WINSTON LOUISVILLE 1860 LIDDELL W J 30 M W SC MS WINSTON LOUISVILLE 1860 LIDDELL W J F 35 M W PA PA ERIE E-WD ERIE 1860 LIDDELL WILLIAM 22 M W NH CA SANTA CRUZ SANTA CRUZ TWP 1860 LIDDELL WILLIAM A 27 M W SC MS TIPPAH ORIZABA 1860 LIDDELL WILLIAM C P 36 M W GA AL CHEROKEE 1-DIST 1860 LIDDELL WM W 40 M W GA MS CARROLL CARROLLTON 1860 Nancy www.geocities.com/twincousin2334 ; www.thepastwhispers.com USGenWeb site for Orange County, NC: www.thepastwhispers.com/genweb_ncorange_index USCW Battle of Seven Pines: http://www.thepastwhispers.com/Battle_of_Seven_Pines.html Tales of the Old West: http://www.thepastwhispers.com/OLDWEST_index.html

Google Genealogy Search Engine http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html Resourece Page, Genealogy Sleuth http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm Genealogical Research online http://www.genealogysearch.org/ GenSource I-Found-It Web Directory (Caution-some other pages on site are pay) http://gensource.com/ifoundit/ Linkpendium http://www.linkpendium.com/ Happy searching! Nancy, researching: Baldridge, Cain, Carmichael, Courtney, Curtis, Dawkins, Doty, Garmon, Garrett, Hanon, Jackson, McCormick, Matthews, Osborne, Sharp, Stampley, Stringer, Turrentine, Warren, Yancey www.geocities.com/twincousin2334 ; www.thepastwhispers.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Liddel, Liddell, Liddle, Lidel, Lidell, Lindell, Lydel, Lydell, Lydell, Liddill, Liddil, Liddel, Lydle, Little, Lytle, Lidall Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/195 Message Board Post: We now have our DNA/mtDNA Study up and running! Visit our new website to see what's happening! The address is http://www.geocities.com/teamliddelldna Write Team Liddell at [email protected] for additional details on this world-wide effort to reunited the families with surnames derived from the ancient Scot borderland of Liddesdale. Yes, we use the records when they exist and the DNA/mtDNA when they no longer do.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Liddell, Liddle, Lydell, Lidell, Lidel, Lindell, Little, Liddill, Liddil, Lide Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/138.3.3.1 Message Board Post: Bill-- Please keep me informed of developments on this. Lanarkshire is increasingly becoming a big research-interest area for Team Liddell et al. Our Australian members have a particular interest in it as well as a number of our states-side members.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YQw.2ACEB/138.3.3 Message Board Post: Blanche, You wrote of a William Collier Liddell. What happened to him? Who did he marry? My William migrated to Canada East in the Early 1800's. Wonder if it might be him. Write me direct at [email protected] Bill Liddell

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/130.1 Message Board Post: Seth: You might have better luck looking for records in "Ayer" Massachusetts. It's pronounced "air" which may be the issue. It's in the north east part of Mass, on Route 2A. Use Map Quest to get a map.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Liddell, Liddle, Lidell, Lydell, Liddel, Lidel, Lid, Lydell, Lydel, Lindell, Little, Lytle, Lytell, Liddesdale, Liddel, Lydle, Luddall, Liddil, Liddill, Liddiard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/194 Message Board Post: Greetings from Team Liddell et al! Please visit http://www.geocities.com/teamliddelldna to see our Study's genealogical genetics website. We had a successful launch on Oct. 15, gaining seven test participants in the first 13 days. Our first test results are due back by 15 Dec and will be posted by kit-numbers only at our website as they are received. One male Team member has already gone back and ordered a "whole ancestry" mtDNA test as well and two female Team are about to order their own test kits. Two other male Team members have promised to order by the end of the year. Truly, the members of Team Liddell et al are "no longer separated by oceans and centuries".

I was digging through my old email files and came across something I'd evidently copied some time ago. I believe it may have been a post from a Rootsweb list, however, I don't know who sent it. I wanted to give the person who posted it credit, so I tried a search through the likely list archives, but, unfortunately, I couldn't find it. I hope it will be helpful to some of you. Nancy http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nc/wnc6.htm http://members.tripod.com/tracers/franklin.htm http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/bamman.htm http://www.tngennet.org/sullivan/tidbits.htm http://www.segenealogy.com/tennessee/tn_records/land.htm http://members.tripod.com/~melissawells/abstract.html http://members.tripod.com/abpruitt/ http://www.cyndislist.com/land.htm#Locality http://www.cyndislist.com/nc.htm#Records http://users.rcn.com/deeds/books.htm http://www.ncgenealogy.org/links/ Nancy, visit the family! http://www.geocities.com/twincousin2334 http://www.thepastwhispers.com

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: liddell, liddle, lidell, liddill, lydell, lidell, liddel, lidel, lide, liddil, lydel, lydle, little, riddell, liddle, liddesdale Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/165.1.1 Message Board Post: Greetings! The 1869-70 British Post Office Directory for Glasgow shows these Robert Liddell listings: Liddell,Robert D.,draper and hosier,63B Sauchiehall street;house,15 Hill street,Garnethill. (See Miss Mary Liddell, below, at same address. His daughter?) Liddell,Robert,wood turner,5 Bedford lane;house, 48 Camden street. In the directory, there is a Dr. W.A. Liddell in charge of the Gowan (Parish?) "Poorhouse" as he called it. (I think the guy had a sense of humor about his work and place in life. See my comments below in the analysis I did of the Liddells and related surnames listed in the directory a few months ago. Liddell,W.A.,surgeon,Govan Poorhouse,224 Eglinton street. (In file E's Faculty of Physicians and Surgeons, W.A. is revealed to be William Adam and in file D "poorhouse" is properly named, according to the accountant (McFarlane) working there: Govan Parochial Chambers and appears to be administrative offices. The mysterous William Liddell on Great Hamilton who will, in File B prove to be otherwise untraceable, may be this William. By an elimination process, he is the same since the directory accounts for all names across its sections.) If you want more of this kind of material, I invite you to membership in Team Liddell et al. We have a lot more material like this in our Yahoo Groups sites with combined holdings of some 33 meg and with more on the way. Please write me at [email protected] for details. (No dues, no assessments, no copyrights, just plain folks have a good time tracing out our ancestors. Worldwide membership on four continents and 10 nations.)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Liddell, Logan, Thyne Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/165.1 Message Board Post: Looking for any information on Robert Liddell who married Mary Helen Logan (born Stranraer). They had children Mary b1869), Robert (b1871), Blair Thyne (1874), John (abt.1877?), Agnes (abt.1879) all born Glasgow and there may be others. In 1881 Census they were staying at 29 Watt Street, Govan, Glasgow. Regards Duncan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Laydel Laydell Leddel Leddell Leddle Ledel Ledwell Leedahl Leddel Leddell Leidel Leidl Leidle Leydel Lidaill Lidal Lidale Lidall Liddaile Liddaill Liddal Liddale Liddell Liddel Liddele Liddell Lidden Lidderdale Liddesdale Liddil Liddle Liddll Liddle Liddi Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/193 Message Board Post: Announcing the Team Liddell et al DNA/mtDNA Study On Oct. 15, 2004, Team Liddell et al will launch a DNA/mtDNA Study which has been in discussion and development for nearly a year and which will include all of the nearly 80 surnames we surmise to be derived from the ancient Scotland border region formerly place-named Liddedale (Liddesdail). These surnames include but are not limited to: Liddell, Liddle, Lidell, Lydell, Lindell, Litdell, Lidel, Lydel and so forth. The complete list is available by writing James W. Liddell at [email protected] This list includes the surname for this board and/or mailing list. The issues we will address with the Team Liddell et al DNA/mtDNA Study includes cross-linking lines across these various variant surnames and within lines of the same surname. Our several decades of genealogical research reveal positively that our longest documented lines cannot reliably reach past the mid-1600s in Scotland and cannot be linked at all to many of the other variants through records research. Yet, our special statistical analyses using Excel spreadsheets and other techniques yield powerful indications that many of the Liddesdale-derived surname variants have common ancestors perhaps back in the 1300s and 1400s and some historical inquires suggest even earlier common ancestors. This also is an excellent opportunity to gain DNA-based knowledge about the ancestors of those individuals whose surnames are of interest to us but which are so uncommon that it is not feasible to run a DNA study, and for individuals or small groups of related individuals who have taken the record search back as far as they can and have run into brick walls as recently as the last century or during the 1800s, to cite two periods with which some Team Liddell members are concerned. For everyone in the Liddesdale-derived surname cluster, including those participating in this particular surname board or mailing list you are reading, the Team Liddell et al DNA/mtDNA Study will provide a very real scientific opportunity to understand where each line's most remote documented ancestors came from and/or to which of the other lines they may be related, and then use these very solid indications to better focus further document and public/church record research. We want to exclusively use the Y-37DNA (males) and mtDNA37 (females) tests and have negotiated group rates for both tests, their processing, interpretation and 20-year results storage. Our Study will not accept the limited 12-marker test results and we greatly discourage use of the currently popular 25-marker tests. The 37-marker DNA and mtDNA tests hold the greatest promise for our Study in our and our experts' opinions both now and for years to come. All tests are pain free and take fewer than five minutes to self-administer. Everything is done by mail. No physician visits are involved. Tested individuals can always withdraw their test results completely and easily from our Study The Team Liddell et al DNA/mtDNA Study will be administered by Team Liddell and by what is reported to be the world's largest company in the field, which will also provide interpretations of each participant's DNA test result and other free services. Write [email protected] for the rates and full disclosure of additional details. Team Liddell et al pledges to fully cooperate with any other existing genealogy DNA study or any begun in the future. The Team, just as with the company it is working, has taken extraordinary measures to ensure complete privacy for each participant in every regard--from identity and email addresses to test results and interpretations. Team Liddell also provides permanent secure storage for all test results both on the Web and its successors and in the archives of selected universities worldwide. Team Liddell et al and its outside staff advisors are all volunteers and receive no financial or other types of benefits in any manner from this study or from any future study which may come from it. Test participants deal directly with the testing company but with Team Liddell's oversight and assistance present at every step of the short process. Team Liddell et al is a sizable and well-established worldwide voluntary association of private, non-professional family genealogists with no dues or assessments, no copyrighted materials and with nothing to sell. The Team is not incorporated and has no officers. James W. Liddell serves as a type of administrative hub for the Team and as its public contact. As an added bogus, all Team Liddell et al DNA/mtDNA Study participants will be granted access to the Team's archives containing nearly 40 megabytes of downloadable genealogy, reference and essay files. Write [email protected] today for complete information and personal handling since the Study launches Oct. 15, 2004 and the more participants we have, the stronger the test results will be for each person.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sabo, Gregory, Liddell Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/192 Message Board Post: Beatrice Mae "Nug" Gregory Sabo, Bloomfield, N.M. died Feb. 17, 2004. She was born Dec. 11, 1916, in Anaconda, Mont., to Percival and Mamie (Liddell) Gregory. Mrs. Sabo was raised and educated in Anaconda, Mont., and was a nurse. She married Jack Sabo on Aug. 15, 1934. Mr. Sabo worked for the Anaconda Mining Company and eventually they moved to New Mexico. She is survived by sons Richard Sabo, Thomas Sabo; eight grandchildren; 20 great grandchildren; and adopted sisters, Sharon Corkish, and Priscilla Alford. She was preceded in death by her husband, daughter, Sandra Carter and sister, Dorothy Sabo. Arrangements were handled by Brewer, Lee and Larkin Funeral Home, 103 E. Ute St., Farmington, N.M.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/191 Message Board Post: hi holy i am wondering is eaither your william or james marry margaret Donaldson 1791 Donna [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YQw.2ACEB/117.118.1.2 Message Board Post: hi andrew i am doing the liddell tree from james donaldson liddell b 1808 d 1878 m mary desmond b 1806 d 1859 i am from his 1st wife they had 7 kids i am from john he married Eliz cook i think you mother anita used to wright to my nan in dunolly would love to get in touch Donna Parker [email protected]