Vicki, That is correct. There are no known children of "Elizabeth James" by any man, EXCEPT John Couch. The CAMPBELL ancestry only married into COUCH descents, and many others of Kentucky. The CAMPBELL men married into JOHN COUCH children of ELIZABETH JAMES. ELIZABETH's Children: (1) Nancy Ann Couch b. 1769 NC d. 1852 KY md William Campbell b. 1760 NC-d.1859/60Ky (2) Mary (polly) Couch b. 1772 NC d. 1863 KY md John Campbell II b. 1763 NC-1867 NC lived to age 104 (3) Sarah (Sally) Couch b. 1773 NC - d. 1864 KY md James Lewis II, b. 1771 NC - d. 1865 KY age 94 * John Couch - born PA Berks County, (d. 1830 KY) md #2 ELIZABETH JAMES (b.1755VA) as both were 2nd marriages (d. 1796 NC) THIS IS THE LEWIS CONNECTION - (my ancestry) (4) Austin Couch b. 1786 NC - d. 1832 KY md #1 Daphane Eversole b. 1820 KY (Clay Co-Owsley Co) (5) James Bartlett Couch b. 1793 NC-d.185? KY md __? unknown wive(s) Requires much more research (6) John Couch Jr. b. 1791 NC - d. 18 ?? KY md Janet (Jane) Campbell b. 1791 NC (7) MARTIN Couch b. 1784 NC md SARAH Hall b. 1785 NC.(16) children Majority of Martin's children lived on lands of Perry & Leslie Counties KY (formerly Clay Co.) NANCY ANN COUCH 1769NC-1858 KY Perry Co. md WILLIAM CAMPBELL. 1760 NC-1858 KY Perry Co. * In 1850 Perry Co., KY, Nancy Ann was living at age 81 with son-in-law John G. & Martha Campbell Grigsby a d/o Nancy. Cuz JOHN in CA See this passage: Rev. John Jay Dickey Diary of April 27, 1898 at Big Creek, Clay County, KY. interviewed Mr. IRA (Si) COUCH who is quoted; "I was born in 1812. My father (Martin Couch b. 1785 Ashe Co.,NC ) came to KY from New River on Holston" --------- "Old John Campbell's (b. 1792) wife my father's sister, James Lewis's wife was another". "My father also had Another brother James, whose son lives in Clay Co.,"Stutter'' John. "My mother was SALLY HALL aunt of Phillips Hall." "My Grandfather JOHN COUCH came with them"...(**all came from New River area on Holston, in Ashe Co, NC) In a message dated 10/13/2009 8:44:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, m5x95@sbcglobal.net writes: If Elizabeth James married Patrick Campbell Jr. & they had no children as you say. SO that would mean Elizabeth was NOT the mother to John & Wm Campbell of Perry Co. Ky. Is this correct? If so I do not need Patrick's family history.