Milton'd kit # is 50147 password is H1773 Help yourself. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: <llewllawereint@yahoo.com> To: <lewis@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [LEWIS] Well, Jees > Hello, > Hey, thanks for the reply! > am). I don't know what his > father died of, but John died in Liverpool ~1870, before > his time. Liverpool was a center of the industrial revolution, so that could have contributed to it. In london, 15 years ago, some workers cleaning a church found out it had ALL been made of marble, it just had so much pollution coating the sides it didn't show. > > Coming down a generation, my grandfather married on his > 18th birthday to > Clarissa KIDDER; she was 17. She was > born in MA but her father was born > in northern Maine. His parents were > first-cousins. My mother's family has 15 DAR men, and she is descended from 8 Plymouth people. Cousins married every 4th generation, and the last few, the relatives were Swedenborgs, and extreme religion like that usually follows with mental illness and thyroid problems. I have type 1 diabetes from a surgeon named Steele, southern Scottish, in San Francisco. His grandson had it, his son was a Pres minister, and most of my relatives on that side, with the exception of my generation, were alcoholics and worked themselves to death. 3 of my mother's 4 grandparents died in mental hospitals, all of them had a lot of money, too. Her mother died from the same overactive thyroid me and my honey have been diagnosed with. doing my genealogy is in some ways more successful than therapy. My mother got her tendency from a lot of things, but to blame people for their situations hen they can't help it and make you overly responsible for everything is very swedenborg. The ancestors had ridiculous delusions of their own importance and grandeur. My grandmother's family was descended from Southern Baptist ministers, and the family has a good and bad reputation. Thy fought valiantly in the civil war in the south, and the leaders of that raid later robbed a bank 10 years after surrender. But they all died relatively young. My Lewises didn't have heart trouble until that line married in, and all but my aunt are already dead, from lung and heart problems. Only one of them had a male child. My Great Grandfather, the person in question as to who his Father is, was a farmer and moonshiner. I thot his mother was Catherine, but Malissa lines up with the 5 marriages, 5 children, all different Dads and none whom she was married to, much better. I am not sure if it is true, but I did find one possible half brother. Of my G-grandfather's kids, alice took care of them when the mother died giving birth to Roy. Roy died in a tuberculosis asylum. Arthur, Brenda's Dad, had eye cancer-he showed it to my Father on a visit. Oscar killed or was killed during a fight after drinking one night. He married or lived with a woman, never had kids. Arthur did, including twins. Oscar had a son who became an accountant, and once I attempted to call him changed his phone and never reposted, even shutting down his biz. So did most of the others. My Grandmother, Fannie smith, got irritated with her hubby's drinking and fooled around on him after ww2. Sh became pregnant, and gave birth-with the kids outside, she and my aunt pauline murdered the baby and put it under a tree. I heard something about the local baptists swearing out a warrant to shoot my G Grandfather cuz he sold liquor to them, and that made them angry at him, since baptists aren't supposed to drink. So, after he was murdered , it would figure he'd marry the oppositions child. Wayne County is beautiful, and haunts my dreams. My aunt, when I lived back there, refused to give me the place where the cabi nthey had grown up in had been located. The Looyds, my G Grandfather's wife's family, are descended from Henry Cub Lloyd, Rev. War ensign, Bedford County, Va. They seem to be okay, with Fernando, her Dad, even making a patent for an ironing board. But all the Lewis boys died early. some kinda horribly. okay, thank you very much for your help! that could confirm it. I am also a match for a Jacob Marshill, and the family hAS claimed Francis Marion Marshall was married to Catherine/Malissa, and then presented the son to her Dad, Harrison/Harmon, to raise. She had one of the 4 children with her in 180, and it confirmed (census) his name was James, he went into the Army, and had a son, named James Lewis Junior. No Father named. all my names are typical of Donegal Lewises. Cassel/Castle, stuck around and lived next to Frank. So, not much shame there. Your post lends much more creedence to my supposition. I was wondering if ancestor Charles, was actually the son of someone other than John Lewis, since his wife had been separated several years at that point, and they kept changing his birth dates, too. Now I think he was john Lewis' son. And, that KIDDER > extended family in Washington Co., ME, either lived > long-lives, were > killed, or almost-killed, or died of all the > life-threatening diseases. They sound normal, that must be a relief. > Clarissa died of heart disease. She had 3 > children with her first husband > and 2 children with her 2nd husband. > All 3 of her sons did not live long > lives. Her youngest son died suddenly at Age > 60. An autopsy showed > undiagnosed cancer, undiagnosed heart disease, and > undiagnosed lung > disease. I believe her other 2 sons had at > least 2 of those. Dang. > > (My LEWIS grandfather died of heart > disease. He was one of the youngest of > 13. A younger brother near Los Angeles, > CA, I believe died of cancer.) That sounds typical. My ancestor Thomas had 13, but the researchers here have included the Jarrell family in with them too, it looks like, so no one really knows, I think. Minerva J seems to be a jarrell, not a Lewis. > > On the other side of my family-tree, my mother's > mother had "unknown > parents." Have you had genetic testing done at all, to try and clear this up? You have done quite a bit of research. But, I have my suspicions. > ~1889 my grandmother was taken in > as a baby by a DEXTER couple in their 50's, then living in > Melrose, MA. > (They had lived in CT most of their lives.) The original adoption papers can be unsealed now, btw. > They adopted her in 1892 and > changed her name. During her ~10 yrs. with > this couple, she was told many > "stories" - most of which turn out to be "lies." sounds like a Lewis family situation, LOL! > I believe that their > married daughter back in Killingly, CT, had a pregnancy > outside of her > marriage in the summer of 1888. > There is "speculation" / "wild > imagination" that John DEXTER, the adoptive father, might > have been the > birth-father. John seems to have > been estranged from his only surviving > child in CT from 1888 until his passing in 1905 in MA. * hmm, genetic testing perhaps. do you have a copy of the will? How is he referred to in it? what church system did they go to? did it change? A friend of mine, Tina smith, did find out that she and her younger brother were adopted by her "parents", and their real mother was an aunt who drank and caroused. Her "Dad", was Melvin, lived in ABQ, worked as an accountant for the airport. I have no idea where she is now-had been engaged to a religious guy working toward a ph.d. in some hard science or engineering, at unm in 1992. Her story sounds much like yours. Well, now I have more information, where do I go with it? I even wonder if Murl is telling me the truth, or not. I don't have reason to really suspect, but hey I donn't honestly know. > Mrs. DEXTER died in MA in 1899 and their adopted child was > taken to an > orphanage in Boston. You can get these records thru the state now, even if it says something embarassing. I found out and saw that my mother's female ancestor, a grandparent, was psychotic, and also had rhinitis, the same stuffy nose she has had her whole life. Mrs. Dexter's remains > were taken back to CT to be > buried there. When John died at the > Tewksbury State Hospital 6 yrs. > later, his remains were buried in the grounds of the > Hospital in an almost, > unmarked grave. Was he poor? That's unusual. My family was allowed to bury them outside of the state hospitals. > > (This is a long, complicated story which I've told on other > Lists for > several years. Many twists and turns to my > grandmother's life.) Well ,thank you for sharing.. I wonder if there is anyone here who does want to be honest about their Eastern Kentucky, West Virginia Lewises, and clear things up or let me know where James Lewis was buried and what family he left. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEWIS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message