Thanks Mike Correct, no luck finding a baptism for either William or his brother Joseph (born 1775). They were Baptists which might explain the lack of baptism records. But, I am not sure that William's family were Baptists or whether he made the change later on. William married Hannah Varnham at St Mary's, Coleorton in 1796. This would have been required by law. But his first two children were baptised at St Mary's. The third was also born at Coleorton, but I can't find her baptism. He then moved to Derbyshire and then Gloucestershire where his other children were born. As for wills, I have several. One is a will of Joseph Stinson (1816) who was a hatmaker. He mentions a number of children, some with names other than Stinson. The first two mentioned are William and Joseph, but there is no indication of their occupations or where they lived, so I can't identify whether they are my people. I do have baptisms for some of the other children who were born after 1775, so my William and and Joseph would fit nicely into the family (assuming the children were mentioned in order of birth). I have been told, but have not been able to verify, that one of William's partners when he was in Gloucestershire was a Stephen Stenson, hatter. This could fit in with hatmaker Joseph. There was a burial of a Stephen Stenson 12 Apr 1835 in Coleorton I wonder if there is a will for him? I have the Coleorton BT's at my local LDS centre. I also have the Leicsview CD. I do wonder whether the St Mary's original Parish registers are available, which might have additional entries or further information. Having probably already confused everyone with my ramblings, I shall stop at this point. Any ideas would be appreciated. Vern On 7 August 2013 17:42, Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern, > > I've never come across school records going back that far. Sometimes there > are Sunday School records that show who the parents of a child were, but > again, those usually only go back to the early 19th century. Presumably > you've had no luck finding a baptism ? What about wills ? Another > possibility is if the family held their property by copyhold, which would > mean that the son would have to go to the manor court to get the property > transferred to him on the death of his parents. He would not automatically > inherit it. I'm not sure whether it came under the de Lisle family or the > Beaumonts. I think it's one or the other. I plan to take a look at the de > Lisle manuscripts at the Record Office soon, so I'll keep a look out for > Stensons/Stinsons. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern > Prescott > Sent: 07 August 2013 18:43 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LEI] Old school records > > I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school records > surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all that might > help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) born about 1770 > in Cole-Orton. > > Vern in lovely SW Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Vern: Don't know whether this will help, but... Have you checked any historical or city directories which might list the business or household members. I don't know specifically what might have been available in that timeframe Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern Prescott Sent: August 7, 2013 6:30 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Old school records Thanks Mike Correct, no luck finding a baptism for either William or his brother Joseph (born 1775). They were Baptists which might explain the lack of baptism records. But, I am not sure that William's family were Baptists or whether he made the change later on. William married Hannah Varnham at St Mary's, Coleorton in 1796. This would have been required by law. But his first two children were baptised at St Mary's. The third was also born at Coleorton, but I can't find her baptism. He then moved to Derbyshire and then Gloucestershire where his other children were born. As for wills, I have several. One is a will of Joseph Stinson (1816) who was a hatmaker. He mentions a number of children, some with names other than Stinson. The first two mentioned are William and Joseph, but there is no indication of their occupations or where they lived, so I can't identify whether they are my people. I do have baptisms for some of the other children who were born after 1775, so my William and and Joseph would fit nicely into the family (assuming the children were mentioned in order of birth). I have been told, but have not been able to verify, that one of William's partners when he was in Gloucestershire was a Stephen Stenson, hatter. This could fit in with hatmaker Joseph. There was a burial of a Stephen Stenson 12 Apr 1835 in Coleorton I wonder if there is a will for him? I have the Coleorton BT's at my local LDS centre. I also have the Leicsview CD. I do wonder whether the St Mary's original Parish registers are available, which might have additional entries or further information. Having probably already confused everyone with my ramblings, I shall stop at this point. Any ideas would be appreciated. Vern On 7 August 2013 17:42, Mike Gould <mike.gould@ndirect.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Vern, > > I've never come across school records going back that far. Sometimes > there are Sunday School records that show who the parents of a child > were, but again, those usually only go back to the early 19th century. > Presumably you've had no luck finding a baptism ? What about wills ? > Another possibility is if the family held their property by copyhold, > which would mean that the son would have to go to the manor court to > get the property transferred to him on the death of his parents. He > would not automatically inherit it. I'm not sure whether it came > under the de Lisle family or the Beaumonts. I think it's one or the > other. I plan to take a look at the de Lisle manuscripts at the > Record Office soon, so I'll keep a look out for Stensons/Stinsons. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould > > -----Original Message----- > From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern > Prescott > Sent: 07 August 2013 18:43 > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LEI] Old school records > > I'm wondering if anyone knows whether there would be any old school > records surviving from about 1780. I am grasping for anything at all > that might help me identify the parents of William STENSON (Stinson) > born about 1770 in Cole-Orton. > > Vern in lovely SW Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message