Hi all I am seeking information on my wifes great grandparents Arthur HURST b1866 Wigston married Amy TURNER b1872 Birdingbury Warwickshire According to the 1911 they had five children, four living in 1911 Albert Edward 1894 - 1965 Edith Agnes 1898 - 1933 Archie 1900 - 1918 Leonard 1910 - 1976 Albert is my wifes grandfather and we have more on him Edith married Fernand DE HOUX (or DEHOUX) in 1917 They had one son who died young in 1924, Edith died in 1933 no idea what became of Fernand Leonard married Doris BROOKS in 1933 Archie was a casualty of WW1 and his CWGC creates a curious question Private Archie HURST age 18 Devonshire Regiment Unit: 1st/5th Bn. Date of Death: 30/09/1918 Service No: 72087 Additional information: Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 14. Cemetery: MASNIERES BRITISH CEMETERY, MARCOING Arthur & Amy are in England in 1911, the question being what were they doing in France Given the CWGC form would be around 1920/1922 Arthur was a compositor, he could be working in France I suppose but we have nothing to back that theory up I have failed to find deaths or burials for either Arthur or Amy so I suppose they could have died in France but again we have nothing on that One theory is that Fernand DEHOUX was French but haven't found him apart from the marriage I do not as yet have the marriage cert for DEHOUX to HURST -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Nivard, A few years ago I questioned the CWGC about a note that was on one of my ancestors records. They told me that where a parent could be found they would write to them, inform them that their name was listed and provided them with a book of all who are listed. I still have this book. Therefore the address you have on there is the address where the family were to be found when your ancestor was listed and where they contacted them. I would therefore assume that you are right in your belief that they died in France. The surname is typically French and if you cannot fine a Birth of either I would suggest looking at France Switzerland or even Belgium Rob -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: leicestershire-plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 24, 2013 5:46 pm Subject: [LEI] Arthur HURST wife Amy TURNER curiosity on sons CWGC entry residence in France Hi all I am seeking information on my wifes great grandparents Arthur HURST b1866 Wigston married Amy TURNER b1872 Birdingbury Warwickshire According to the 1911 they had five children, four living in 1911 Albert Edward 1894 - 1965 Edith Agnes 1898 - 1933 Archie 1900 - 1918 Leonard 1910 - 1976 Albert is my wifes grandfather and we have more on him Edith married Fernand DE HOUX (or DEHOUX) in 1917 They had one son who died young in 1924, Edith died in 1933 no idea what became of Fernand Leonard married Doris BROOKS in 1933 Archie was a casualty of WW1 and his CWGC creates a curious question Private Archie HURST age 18 Devonshire Regiment Unit: 1st/5th Bn. Date of Death: 30/09/1918 Service No: 72087 Additional information: Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 14. Cemetery: MASNIERES BRITISH CEMETERY, MARCOING Arthur & Amy are in England in 1911, the question being what were they doing in France Given the CWGC form would be around 1920/1922 Arthur was a compositor, he could be working in France I suppose but we have nothing to back that theory up I have failed to find deaths or burials for either Arthur or Amy so I suppose they could have died in France but again we have nothing on that One theory is that Fernand DEHOUX was French but haven't found him apart from the marriage I do not as yet have the marriage cert for DEHOUX to HURST -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nivard, Can't guess what Arthur and Amy Hurst were doing in France at the end of or just following WWI, but I do see that the address given in French is just a little bit garbled. I think that perhaps this should be 65, rue de l'Église, à (in or at) Fromelennes, près (near) Givet, Ardennes, France. These two towns, or communes, are apparently less then 10 minutes away from each other on either side of the Meuse river, so they are right beside Belgium. "Fromelennes près Givet" also brings up a few references as the location of a copper foundry or factory founded 1806 (the first to be established in Ardennes), owned by a Monsieur Gédéon de Contamine and something about production of laminated copper and zinc sheets. Dehoux is a French name, and can originate in Belgium as well. I couldn't find a 65 rue de l'Église, Fromelennes on google maps but I did find a 65 Place de l'Église, Fromelennes. Hope this helps a little. Carolyn On 2013-12-24, at 12:45 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi all > > I am seeking information on my wifes great grandparents > > Arthur HURST b1866 Wigston married Amy TURNER b1872 Birdingbury > Warwickshire > > According to the 1911 they had five children, four living in 1911 > Albert Edward 1894 - 1965 > Edith Agnes 1898 - 1933 > Archie 1900 - 1918 > Leonard 1910 - 1976 > > Albert is my wifes grandfather and we have more on him > > Edith married Fernand DE HOUX (or DEHOUX) in 1917 > They had one son who died young in 1924, Edith died in 1933 no idea what > became of Fernand > > Leonard married Doris BROOKS in 1933 > > Archie was a casualty of WW1 and his CWGC creates a curious question > > Private Archie HURST age 18 > Devonshire Regiment Unit: 1st/5th Bn. > Date of Death: 30/09/1918 > Service No: 72087 > Additional information: Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de > L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. > Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead > Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 14. > Cemetery: MASNIERES BRITISH CEMETERY, MARCOING > > Arthur & Amy are in England in 1911, the question being what were they > doing in France > > Given the CWGC form would be around 1920/1922 > > Arthur was a compositor, he could be working in France I suppose but we > have nothing to back that theory up > > I have failed to find deaths or burials for either Arthur or Amy so I > suppose they could have died in France but again we have nothing on that > > One theory is that Fernand DEHOUX was French but haven't found him apart > from the marriage > > I do not as yet have the marriage cert for DEHOUX to HURST > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >

Thanks Carolyn Yes all is of help I did find much as you did regarding the location Its an odd one as no one seems to know anything of it in the family but many are no longer around to ask unfortunately Its a curious one which hopefully in time I may solve Thank you for your contribution, it is appreciated Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 25/12/2013 21:03, Carolyn Perkes wrote: > Hi Nivard, > > Can't guess what Arthur and Amy Hurst were doing in France at the end of or just following WWI, but I do see that the address given in French is just a little bit garbled. > > I think that perhaps this should be 65, rue de l'Église, à (in or at) Fromelennes, près (near) Givet, Ardennes, France. > These two towns, or communes, are apparently less then 10 minutes away from each other on either side of the Meuse river, so they are right beside Belgium. > > "Fromelennes près Givet" also brings up a few references as the location of a copper foundry or factory founded 1806 (the first to be established in Ardennes), owned by a Monsieur Gédéon de Contamine and something about production of laminated copper and zinc sheets. > > Dehoux is a French name, and can originate in Belgium as well. > > I couldn't find a 65 rue de l'Église, Fromelennes on google maps but I did find a 65 Place de l'Église, Fromelennes. > > Hope this helps a little. > > Carolyn