Emma, It looks like they didn't marry until 1843... Marriages Jun 1843 HARRIS Thomas Leicester 15 137 MANSFIELD Rebecca Leicester 15 137 MARTIN John Leicester 15 137 SHIRLEY Samuel Loughborough 15 137 SIBSON Elizabeth Leicester 15 137 SISON Elizabeth Leicester 15 137 WHADCOCK Sophia Leicester 15 137 Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> To: "Leicestershire plus" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: [LEI] Elisabeth SMITH,then Sibson (Gibson?) then Martin - THURMASTON > Hello > > Haven't posted for a while but was wondering if any of you lovely folks > might be able to help - I'm still struggling with my Martins! > > I recently got the birth certificate of my ancestor John Richard Martin, > born in Thurmaston in 1843. His parents on the birth certificate are > listed > as John Martin and Elisabeth Martin, late Sibson (or poss. Gibson), > formerly > Smith. > > I can't find them in the 1841 census, and in the 1851 census John Richard > is > living with his widowed Aunt, Maria Cook, in Thurmaston. I know from the > 1851 census that Maria is listed as coming from Mansfield, but I don't > know > whether she is John's aunt on his mother's or father's side. > > I'm not sure where to look next? I don't even know whether John Richard > was > orphaned or just abandoned... Has anyone got any ideas? I'm seriously > considering bringing in a pro.. > > Thanks in advance, and wishing you all a very merry Christmas and a Happy > New year. > > Em