Dear Leicestershire Members, I hope someone can help me. I have discovered on Ancestry.com UK that my ancestor John Brown married Dorothy Gowsey in 1617. Both were of Lawnde Abbey. The marriage was recorded in Book 1 fo. 144. Question: does Lawnde Abbey still exist? Is it a town or perhaps a church? Does Book #1 still exist? Where would it be? Are there research facilities in the area where I could find out more about the Brown and Gowsey families? Any help or ideas you can give me are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Carole In a message dated 12/3/2007 4:52:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, leicestershire-plus-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC (A P L) 2. Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Emma Faulkner) 3. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Berry Wraight) 4. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Emma Faulkner) 5. Re: GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC (Elizabeth Agar) 6. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Berry Wraight) 7. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (John De-Hayes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:10:35 +0000 From: A P L <annepaling@hotmail.com> Subject: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY130-W2645229540E418EB4BEA51D66C0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking for a simple, repeat simple, and easily understandable guide to the county, parish, etc set up in England. Is there one on line? I love maps and geography was one of my "best" subjects at school so I find myself trying to explain proximity or not of locations to Listers on a fairly frequent basis. I have a record of several very useful map sites. I usually have one or the other alongside me when I am researching. However, I have never found an good explanation of the relationship between the various administrative levels in England in 19th century and before on line. Any ideas? Anne PalingSHEFFIELD, U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:33:01 +0000 From: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Subject: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Leicestershire plus" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <46e385820712030233k4e4c7ddap2b91e6a84faab597@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com, where they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not appear on multimap: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24 234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,%20Le icester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200 Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500&s t=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are looking up Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? Cheers Em -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:51:28 +0000 From: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <d176498b0712030251h4796e971uca17f56cad887854@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com, where > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > appear on multimap: > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,%2 0Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200 > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are looking > up > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > Cheers > > Em > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:56:19 +0000 From: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <46e385820712030256p736f7723s4d89a7ce70ae2eee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Berry Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park and little thatched cottages. But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... Cheers Em On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > Cheers > > Berry > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > where > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford, %20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.com/m aps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB:52. 68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%20Leic estershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > looking up > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > Cheers > > > > Em > > > > > > > > -- > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:52:04 +1100 From: "Elizabeth Agar" <emagar@hotkey.net.au> Subject: Re: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC To: "'A P L'" <annepaling@hotmail.com>, <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c835a2$ec6909e0$0201a8c0@useree29f53535> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Anne, This might be useful - found via the GENUKI page for England - http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/%7Ejimella/counties.htm#chaos Also for a counties map - http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/%7Ejimella/countmap.htm Cheers, Liz in Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A P L Sent: Monday, 3 December 2007 8:11 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC I am looking for a simple, repeat simple, and easily understandable guide to the county, parish, etc set up in England. Is there one on line? I love maps and geography was one of my "best" subjects at school so I find myself trying to explain proximity or not of locations to Listers on a fairly frequent basis. I have a record of several very useful map sites. I usually have one or the other alongside me when I am researching. However, I have never found an good explanation of the relationship between the various administrative levels in England in 19th century and before on line. Any ideas? Anne PalingSHEFFIELD, U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:25:28 +0000 From: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <d176498b0712031325g44ed8d9cve41c81098d5545e7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Indeed I did, I had not realised that you were talking about the village being shown in the wrong place. Will be interested in maps.live's view on that!! Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi Berry > > Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - > I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park > and little thatched cottages. > > But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to > the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any > other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know > that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... > > Cheers > > Em > > On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > > > Cheers > > > > Berry > > > > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner < schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > > where > > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby > > > Pool: > > > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linfor d,%20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.com /maps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB:5 2.68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%20Le icestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? > > > I'm > > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as > > > I > > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > > looking up > > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Em > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:50:28 -0000 From: "John De-Hayes" <johndehayes@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "'Leicestershire plus'" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000f01c835f6$84d57df0$6501a8c0@JohnLaptop2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" A lot of online map suppliers deliberately put incorrect or extra information on their maps so they can check for copyright violations. Google Maps add extra streets, or other features that don't in fact exist. This was highlighted in a TV programme by Nicholas Crane - the guy who presents MapMan and Coast. I lived and worked in this area and I can confirm that there is no such place as Newtown LIMFORD. The map I generated had the name by a water feature, which is known as Groby (pronounced Grooby) Pool. -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Berry Wraight Sent: 03 December 2007 21:25 To: Emma Faulkner Cc: Leicestershire plus Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford Indeed I did, I had not realised that you were talking about the village being shown in the wrong place. Will be interested in maps.live's view on that!! Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi Berry > > Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - > I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park > and little thatched cottages. > > But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to > the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any > other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know > that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... > > Cheers > > Em > > On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > > > Cheers > > > > Berry > > > > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner < schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > > where > > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby > > > Pool: > > > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,% 20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.com/ maps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB: 52.68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%2 0Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? > > > I'm > > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as > > > I > > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > > looking up > > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Em > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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http://www.launde.org.uk/ Maybe ?? -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CABROWN@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:58 AM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 362 Dear Leicestershire Members, I hope someone can help me. I have discovered on Ancestry.com UK that my ancestor John Brown married Dorothy Gowsey in 1617. Both were of Lawnde Abbey. The marriage was recorded in Book 1 fo. 144. Question: does Lawnde Abbey still exist? Is it a town or perhaps a church? Does Book #1 still exist? Where would it be? Are there research facilities in the area where I could find out more about the Brown and Gowsey families? Any help or ideas you can give me are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Carole In a message dated 12/3/2007 4:52:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, leicestershire-plus-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC (A P L) 2. Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Emma Faulkner) 3. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Berry Wraight) 4. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Emma Faulkner) 5. Re: GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC (Elizabeth Agar) 6. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (Berry Wraight) 7. Re: Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford (John De-Hayes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:10:35 +0000 From: A P L <annepaling@hotmail.com> Subject: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY130-W2645229540E418EB4BEA51D66C0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking for a simple, repeat simple, and easily understandable guide to the county, parish, etc set up in England. Is there one on line? I love maps and geography was one of my "best" subjects at school so I find myself trying to explain proximity or not of locations to Listers on a fairly frequent basis. I have a record of several very useful map sites. I usually have one or the other alongside me when I am researching. However, I have never found an good explanation of the relationship between the various administrative levels in England in 19th century and before on line. Any ideas? Anne PalingSHEFFIELD, U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:33:01 +0000 From: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Subject: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Leicestershire plus" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <46e385820712030233k4e4c7ddap2b91e6a84faab597@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com, where they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not appear on multimap: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24 234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,%20 Le icester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200 Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &s t=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are looking up Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? Cheers Em -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:51:28 +0000 From: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <d176498b0712030251h4796e971uca17f56cad887854@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com, where > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > appear on multimap: > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,% 2 0Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200 > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are looking > up > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > Cheers > > Em > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:56:19 +0000 From: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <46e385820712030256p736f7723s4d89a7ce70ae2eee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Berry Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park and little thatched cottages. But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... Cheers Em On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > Cheers > > Berry > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > where > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby Pool: > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford, %20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.com /m aps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB:5 2. 68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%20Le ic estershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? I'm > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as I > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > looking up > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > Cheers > > > > Em > > > > > > > > -- > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:52:04 +1100 From: "Elizabeth Agar" <emagar@hotkey.net.au> Subject: Re: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC To: "'A P L'" <annepaling@hotmail.com>, <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c835a2$ec6909e0$0201a8c0@useree29f53535> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Anne, This might be useful - found via the GENUKI page for England - http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/%7Ejimella/counties.htm#chaos Also for a counties map - http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/%7Ejimella/countmap.htm Cheers, Liz in Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A P L Sent: Monday, 3 December 2007 8:11 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] GUIDE TO ADMINISTRATIVE MAZE OF COUNTIES ETC I am looking for a simple, repeat simple, and easily understandable guide to the county, parish, etc set up in England. Is there one on line? I love maps and geography was one of my "best" subjects at school so I find myself trying to explain proximity or not of locations to Listers on a fairly frequent basis. I have a record of several very useful map sites. I usually have one or the other alongside me when I am researching. However, I have never found an good explanation of the relationship between the various administrative levels in England in 19th century and before on line. Any ideas? Anne PalingSHEFFIELD, U.K. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:25:28 +0000 From: "Berry Wraight" <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "Emma Faulkner" <schnozzles@googlemail.com> Cc: Leicestershire plus <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <d176498b0712031325g44ed8d9cve41c81098d5545e7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Indeed I did, I had not realised that you were talking about the village being shown in the wrong place. Will be interested in maps.live's view on that!! Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi Berry > > Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - > I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park > and little thatched cottages. > > But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to > the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any > other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know > that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... > > Cheers > > Em > > On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > > > Cheers > > > > Berry > > > > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner < schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > > where > > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby > > > Pool: > > > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linfor d,%20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.c om /maps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB :5 2.68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%20 Le icestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? > > > I'm > > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as > > > I > > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > > looking up > > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Em > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:50:28 -0000 From: "John De-Hayes" <johndehayes@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford To: "'Leicestershire plus'" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000f01c835f6$84d57df0$6501a8c0@JohnLaptop2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" A lot of online map suppliers deliberately put incorrect or extra information on their maps so they can check for copyright violations. Google Maps add extra streets, or other features that don't in fact exist. This was highlighted in a TV programme by Nicholas Crane - the guy who presents MapMan and Coast. I lived and worked in this area and I can confirm that there is no such place as Newtown LIMFORD. The map I generated had the name by a water feature, which is known as Groby (pronounced Grooby) Pool. -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Berry Wraight Sent: 03 December 2007 21:25 To: Emma Faulkner Cc: Leicestershire plus Subject: Re: [LEI] Newtown Linford/Newtown Limford Indeed I did, I had not realised that you were talking about the village being shown in the wrong place. Will be interested in maps.live's view on that!! Cheers Berry On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner <schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi Berry > > Think you missed the point slightly!! There is indeed a Newtown LiNford - > I have been there and it's a lovely village with views over Bradgate Park > and little thatched cottages. > > But if you look on maps.live.com, you will see ANOTHER village, just to > the South West, called Newtown LiMford. This village does not exist on any > other map that I know of!! It also does not exist in Leicestershire - I know > that area quite well, as I live in Whitwick which is just up the road... > > Cheers > > Em > > On 03/12/2007, Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hold on! I have just clicked into Google maps and it is there as Newtown > > Li N ford. It is north west of Leicester, > > > > Cheers > > > > Berry > > > > > > On 03/12/2007, Emma Faulkner < schnozzles@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I don't know if anyone else has noticed an anomaly on maps.live.com , > > > where > > > they've invented a village called 'Newtown Limford' next to Groby > > > Pool: > > > > > > http://maps.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.ssb74tgwxkpj_Untitled%20item___&encType=1 > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been puzzled by this for a while. The same village does not > > > appear on multimap: > > > > > > > > > http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|newtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1. 24234|14|4&loc=GB:52.68334:-1.23101:14|newtown%20linford|Newtown%20Linford,% 20Leicester,%20Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200<http://www.multimap.com/ maps/?hloc=GB%7Cnewtown%20linford#t=l&map=52.67687,-1.24234%7C14%7C4&loc=GB: 52.68334:-1.23101:14%7Cnewtown%20linford%7CNewtown%20Linford,%20Leicester,%2 0Leicestershire,%20England,%20LE6%200> > > > > > > Or indeed on the Ordnance Survey Maps, or on Streetmaps > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=451500&y=309500&z=5&sv=451500,309500 &st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=451500&ay=309500 > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this extra village? > > > I'm > > > thinking of e-mailing maps.live.com and pointing out their mistake, as > > > I > > > imagine this could be somewhat confusing for genealogists who are > > > looking up > > > Leicestershire villages but don't know the area? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Em > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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Hi Carole, Launde Abbey (note present spelling) most certainly still exists, about a mile north of the village of Loddington, and about 5 miles south west of Oakham. My mother-in-law was born at Loddington and baptised in the Abbey. I think it has had a chequered history, owned at one time (if my memory is correct) by Oliver Cromwell, and is now used as a Church of England retreat. There are extensive grounds around the Abbey which are open to the public (although the Abbey is not) as public roads run through, and the fish ponds still exist, although very neglected. It's a very pleasant spot for a summer picnic, if you are in the area. The Record Office should know if the records you want have been deposited. HTH Lesley -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of CABROWN@aol.com Dear Leicestershire Members, I hope someone can help me. I have discovered on Ancestry.com UK that my ancestor John Brown married Dorothy Gowsey in 1617. Both were of Lawnde Abbey. The marriage was recorded in Book 1 fo. 144. Question: does Lawnde Abbey still exist? Is it a town or perhaps a church? Does Book #1 still exist? Where would it be? Are there research facilities in the area where I could find out more about the Brown and Gowsey families? Any help or ideas you can give me are greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Carole

Hi Carole Entering Launde Abbey into :- http://maps.google.com/ Will take you to a modern map of the area For an older map try :- http://www.old-maps.co.uk Enter the co-ordinates 479600 304200 which should take you there Lesley mentions the fish ponds which we used to fish many years ago, they were certainly well kept then, although shallow there were good Rudd, Roach and some Carp, being shallow the fish were very wary and all the harder to catch I wonder if their ancestors were there in your ancestors day <vbg> Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Regarding your marriage licence I would ask the Leicestershire Records Office if they have anything on it > Dear Leicestershire Members, > I hope someone can help me. I have discovered on Ancestry.com UK that my > ancestor John Brown married Dorothy Gowsey in 1617. Both were of Lawnde > Abbey. > The marriage was recorded in Book 1 fo. 144. Question: does Lawnde Abbey > still > exist? Is it a town or perhaps a church? Does Book #1 still exist? Where > would it be? Are there research facilities in the area where I could > find out > more about the Brown and Gowsey families? Any help or ideas you can give > me are > greatly appreciated. > Sincerely, > Carole