Nivard's right, people need to post more queries to the list! So I'm going to contribute my current quandry to see what you guys think. John Richard Stanley (or Richard John Stanley, depending on the record), was b. 1834 in either Whitwick or Coleorton. I found a christening record that fits this information which states Richard John Stanley, ch. 09 November 1834, son of Richard and Mary Stanley in Whitwick. I found him in the 1841 census quite easily, so then I was able to gather his parents' info as well: Richard Stanley, b. ~1799 Leicestershire, England Mary Stanley, b. ~1821 Leicestershire, England And I found him my John easily on the 1861 census, after he's married his lovely wife Emily Neal. But I can't seem to locate my John OR his father on the 1851 census on either FamilySearch or FindMyPast. This seems to be an odd hole. Anyone want to have a gander at where Richard and Mary are in 1851? I believe I have found Richard's death in 1857 in Ashby de la Zouch (though it says age 65, b. 1792) so , so in theory he should be alive in 1851. Thanks for any help anyone wants to offer, Concetta from cold and snowy Illinois, USA