Hi, Can anyone tell me about emigration to the USA about 1900. If the person had been tried at Court for manslaughter and been acquitted would he and family have been allowed to migrate to USA. I'm looking for a Edwin Herbert Nock b. 1865 Rowley Regis Staffs wife Emma Nock ( nee Pitt ) b 1868 Dudley and children Olive May b. 1891 Herbert Edwin b. 1892 Robert b. 1893 I was told they went about 1898 1899, maybe to New York and then settled in Mexico. I cannot find them on any ship to New York on Ancestry. Thanks if anyone has clues Regards Ken

Emma Nock shows as a citizen of Great Britain living in Mexico City going through Ellis Island in 1919. She is shown with a son Walter J. Emma indicates her husband is Edwin H. Nock, living at 566 Chapultepec Ave, Mexico City, and Walter indicates this is his father. The particular trip they are traveling to Toronto. Emma identifies that she was in New York last in 1899. Go to Ellisisland.org for more details. Concetta On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Ken Stanger <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > Can anyone tell me about emigration to the USA about 1900. > > If the person had been tried at Court for manslaughter and been acquitted > would he and family have been allowed to migrate to USA. > > I'm looking for a Edwin Herbert Nock b. 1865 Rowley Regis Staffs > wife Emma Nock ( nee Pitt ) b 1868 Dudley > and children Olive May b. 1891 > Herbert Edwin b. 1892 > Robert b. 1893 > > I was told they went about 1898 1899, maybe to New York and then settled in > Mexico. > > I cannot find them on any ship to New York on Ancestry. > > Thanks if anyone has clues > > Regards Ken > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ken Why would he bring up the subject at all with regard to entering the USA The authorities in most Countries are interested in who is entering their Country and largely could not care less about those leaving So if he was acquitted he was not under any charge so would be free to leave the Country, there were no passports necessary at that time Far from all ships passenger lists survive and that is assuming he was on one under his own name , there was little in the way of proof of identity Have you checked the Mexico census out? I believe there are some on familysearch Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Hi, > Can anyone tell me about emigration to the USA about 1900. > > If the person had been tried at Court for manslaughter and been acquitted > would he and family have been allowed to migrate to USA. > > I'm looking for a Edwin Herbert Nock b. 1865 Rowley Regis Staffs > wife Emma Nock ( nee Pitt ) b 1868 Dudley > and children Olive May b. 1891 > Herbert Edwin b. 1892 > Robert b. 1893 > > I was told they went about 1898 1899, maybe to New York and then settled in > Mexico. > > I cannot find them on any ship to New York on Ancestry. > > Thanks if anyone has clues > > Regards Ken

FindMyPast has lists for some ships leaving Britain. Around 1890-1911 there is one for Mr & Mrs. Nock with two children and a nurse (single female over 12) cabin passengers going to Trinidad on ship Para from Southampton departing 20 Oct 1897. There weren't many passengers. No other details on this clear image. Many passenger lists are missing of course and there could be transcription errors. Regards, Trevor On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:24:11 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi, > Can anyone tell me about emigration to the USA about 1900. > >If the person had been tried at Court for manslaughter and been acquitted >would he and family have been allowed to migrate to USA. > >I'm looking for a Edwin Herbert Nock b. 1865 Rowley Regis Staffs > wife Emma Nock ( nee Pitt ) b 1868 Dudley >and children Olive May b. 1891 > Herbert Edwin b. 1892 > Robert b. 1893 > >I was told they went about 1898 1899, maybe to New York and then settled in >Mexico. > >I cannot find them on any ship to New York on Ancestry. > >Thanks if anyone has clues > >Regards Ken > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has this been posted yet? From ancestry. Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1895-1957 about Edwin H Nock Name: Edwin H Nock Arrival Date: 19 Dec 1921 Port of Arrival: Laredo, Texas, United States Age: 58 Birth Date: abt 1863 Gender: Male Race/Nationality: English Record has photo?: No Record Type: Cards And another one Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1895-1957 about Edwin H Nock Name: Edwin H Nock Arrival Date: 15 Oct 1918 Port of Arrival: Laredo, Texas, United States Age: 55 Birth Date: abt 1863 Gender: Male Race/Nationality: English Record has photo?: No Record Type: Cards Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1895-1957 about Emma Nock Name: Emma Nock Arrival Date: 7 Sep 1922 Port of Arrival: Laredo, Texas, United States Departure Contact: Son, Edwin Nock Age: 54 Birth Date: abt 1868 Birth Location: Dudley, England Gender: Female Race/Nationality: English Record has photo?: No Record Type: Cards This is interesting New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945 about Emma Nock Name: Emma Nock Arrival Date: 20 May 1929 Age: 61 Gender: Female Ethnic Background: British (English) Port of Departure: Vera Cruz, Mexico Ship Name: Alegria Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana Friend's Name: Jacob Geller Last Residence: Mexico Birthplace: England,Dudley National Archives' Series Number: Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Emma Nock Name: Emma Nock Gender: Female Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Birth Country: England Date of Arrival: 16 Aug 1919 Vessel: Nieuw Amsterdam Search Ship Database: View the 'Nieuw Amsterdam' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: New York, New York Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Netherlands Roll: T-14915 This has some good info and a picture - if your guy U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925 about Herbert Edwin Nock Name: Herbert Edwin Nock Birth Date: 23 Aug 1892 Birth Place: Elizabeth Age: 24 Gender: Male Residence: Elizabeth Passport Issue Date: 24 Jun 1916 Passport Includes a Photo: Yes This is the same dude as above - but now he is born in England instead of Elizabeth nj, but is living in Elizabeth, nj U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Herbert Edwin Nock Name: Herbert Edwin Nock Birth Date: 23 Aug 1892 Birth Place: England Residence: Union, New Jersey Race: White 1930 United States Federal Census about Herbert E Nock Name: Herbert E Nock Birth Year: abt 1893 Birthplace: Great Britain Home in 1930: Charleston, Charleston, South Carolina View Map Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Helen G Nock Occupation: Education: Military Service: Rent/home value: Age at first marriage: Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Herbert E Nock 37 Helen G Nock 32 Enid Nock 7 Gladys Nock 6 New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Herbert E Nock Name: Herbert E Nock Arrival Date: 22 Nov 1938 Birth Year: abt 1893 Birth Location: England Age: 45 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Aruba Port of Arrival: New York, New York Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States Ship Name: Santa Paula Search Ship Database: Search the Santa Paula in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 about Herbert Edwin Nock Name: Herbert Edwin Nock State: South Carolina Court Type: District Court Court Location: Charleston, South Carolina Naturalization Record Type: Declarations of Intention Naturalization Record Number: 1094 Again I don't know if this stuff has been posted yet - but it all came from ancestry - I would head to my nearest public library with ancestry and check these out. Good luck -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Stanger Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 1:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] emigration to USA 1900 Hi, Can anyone tell me about emigration to the USA about 1900. If the person had been tried at Court for manslaughter and been acquitted would he and family have been allowed to migrate to USA. I'm looking for a Edwin Herbert Nock b. 1865 Rowley Regis Staffs wife Emma Nock ( nee Pitt ) b 1868 Dudley and children Olive May b. 1891 Herbert Edwin b. 1892 Robert b. 1893 I was told they went about 1898 1899, maybe to New York and then settled in Mexico. I cannot find them on any ship to New York on Ancestry. Thanks if anyone has clues Regards Ken ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message