FreeBMD has the following possibility. Mar Qtr 1852 Mayes John Leicester 7a 297 Wales Eliza Leicester 7a 297 Suzie -----Original Message----- From: Karin Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LEI] MAYES An alternate might be to keep checking census information-I've been able to work backwards when a female relative has been staying with a family on census night. Just one line of enquiry Cheers Karin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wendy Sent: December-03-11 9:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [LEI] MAYES I'm trying to find a marriage between John MAYES (sometimes spelt MAYSE) (b. 1832 Thurmaston) and Eliza.......(born 1832 Birstall). In 1871 they were living in Birstall, first child Thomas born 1852. I would love to be able to find Eliza's maiden name. any suggestions? thanks for any help Wendy