On 09/06/2014 09:54, Brian Binns wrote: > I really don't see the problem with identifying living people. Such > information as you would likely disclose is publicly available in phone > books and electoral rolls, let alone across the internet via social network > such as Facebook, Linkedin, Twitter etc etc. Mind you I suppose in these > instances the person has somewhere along given permission, or at the least > not denied it. Open to interpretation. It's a Rootsweb rule done to respect an individual's right to privacy and probably to avoid possible litigation if the individual gets upset about having details of themselves and their family broadcast across the internet. I know I would be. Not everyone is in the phone books or the electoral rolls, at least not in the UK. It's optional. Nor does everyone have a Facebook, Twitter or other social media account. If they do, then they are responsible for what they post. People tend to be rather indiscreet on Facebook et al, judging by the number of people who manage to get themselves into trouble. LinkedIn is for business purposes so slightly different. It's as easy to forget there are people who don't share our interest in genealogy just like it's easy to forget all our messages to Rootsweb lists are open to the world, not just us in the cosiness and privacy of our own homes. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
I really don't see the problem with identifying living people. Such information as you would likely disclose is publicly available in phone books and electoral rolls, let alone across the internet via social network such as Facebook, Linkedin, Twitter etc etc. Mind you I suppose in these instances the person has somewhere along given permission, or at the least not denied it. Open to interpretation. I Googled this person and he has been "sought" by others for the past few years. Perhaps Roslyn should do the same and follow up on some of those leads. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie Sent: 07 June 2014 23:42 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] Brian F. MACGREGOR On 07/06/2014 21:32, Roslyn Macgregor wrote: > I recently discovered that I have a first cousin, Brian F. Macgregor, > born 2/4, 1944. Lived in Loughborough, Leicestershire as recently as > 2005. Then he disappears. > > I wondered if anyone knew him? I realize it's tricky looking for > living (probably, but not certain) people. I was told you weren't supposed to ask for information about living or possibly living people. <quote> Don't include identifiable information about living people without their direct consent, or, in the case of minors, the consent of their parent or guardian. This includes (but is not limited to) a person's full name, location or contact information. </quote> There are organisations, such as the Salvation Army, who can act as intermediaries but won't give any information without the consent of the person in question. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I thought you might like to read about one of your ancestors: http://www.honour.org.uk/node/70 Lou
Guy, I fully accept what you say, I was not trying to advise the original poster on the legal position, only to show what I had encountered. Most of my tree is in Nottingham, and the school records in Notts Archives are - or were the last time I checked in 2013 - subject to the "100 year rule." Armed with your information I will challenge this ruling when I re-assume my research into members of my tree whose school records may be at Notts Archives. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Guy Etchells Sent: 08 June 2014 06:54 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] School Records On 04/06/2014 16:16, Brian Binns wrote: > You should be aware that school records are subject to the 100 year > rule - most bizarre to all thinking people - so even if you find which > school, you will not be able to view the records unless before 1914. > > Brian Binns > > Brian, can you show the list any legislation in England that requires such records to be withheld for 100 years. There is none. The Statutory Instrument (Statutory Instrument No. 12 of 1966), the basis of the 100 year rule was repealed by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOI). Since the FOI Act came into law, members of the public have a right to see information held by public authorities as soon as it has been created. The Act gave people : the right to be told whether the information is held by the public authority; and the right to be provided with the information. These new access rights may only be overridden by exemptions in the Act. Prohibition on disclosure under the FOI is mentioned in Section 44 of the Act: "44Prohibitions on disclosure (1)Information is exempt information if its disclosure (otherwise than under this Act) by the public authority holding it- (a)is prohibited by or under any enactment, (b)is incompatible with any Community obligation, or (c)would constitute or be punishable as a contempt of court. (2)The duty to confirm or deny does not arise if the confirmation or denial that would have to be given to comply with section 1(1)(a) would (apart from this Act) fall within any of paragraphs (a) to (c) of subsection (1)." I should perhaps add that records for privately owned schools as the are not run by the public authority do not come under the above legislation. Cheers Guy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 04/06/2014 16:16, Brian Binns wrote: > You should be aware that school records are subject to the 100 year rule - > most bizarre to all thinking people - so even if you find which school, you > will not be able to view the records unless before 1914. > > Brian Binns > > Brian, can you show the list any legislation in England that requires such records to be withheld for 100 years. There is none. The Statutory Instrument (Statutory Instrument No. 12 of 1966), the basis of the 100 year rule was repealed by the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOI). Since the FOI Act came into law, members of the public have a right to see information held by public authorities as soon as it has been created. The Act gave people : the right to be told whether the information is held by the public authority; and the right to be provided with the information. These new access rights may only be overridden by exemptions in the Act. Prohibition on disclosure under the FOI is mentioned in Section 44 of the Act: "44Prohibitions on disclosure (1)Information is exempt information if its disclosure (otherwise than under this Act) by the public authority holding it— (a)is prohibited by or under any enactment, (b)is incompatible with any Community obligation, or (c)would constitute or be punishable as a contempt of court. (2)The duty to confirm or deny does not arise if the confirmation or denial that would have to be given to comply with section 1(1)(a) would (apart from this Act) fall within any of paragraphs (a) to (c) of subsection (1)." I should perhaps add that records for privately owned schools as the are not run by the public authority do not come under the above legislation. Cheers Guy
Hi Roslyn, If age 65+ it could be him in Swadlincoate, Dergyshire in 2005-2007 on 192.com, but, of course, GRO Deaths are not available after 2006. No sign of a MacGregor outside Scotland after that date. Regards, Maurice at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com On 07/06/2014 23:32, Roslyn Macgregor wrote: > Hello. > > I recently discovered that I have a first cousin, Brian F. Macgregor, born > 2/4, 1944. Lived in Loughborough, Leicestershire as recently as 2005. Then > he disappears. > > I wondered if anyone knew him? I realize it's tricky looking for living > (probably, but not certain) people. > > If anyone has a connection - if you know him, you may not be able to give > me contact information this way, but perhaps you could give him mine? > > I have an address for 2003-2005 from 192,com but no other traces in recent > years. > > Thank you for any help, > > Roslyn in Canada > > > > >
On 07/06/2014 21:32, Roslyn Macgregor wrote: > I recently discovered that I have a first cousin, Brian F. Macgregor, born > 2/4, 1944. Lived in Loughborough, Leicestershire as recently as 2005. Then > he disappears. > > I wondered if anyone knew him? I realize it's tricky looking for living > (probably, but not certain) people. I was told you weren't supposed to ask for information about living or possibly living people. <quote> Don't include identifiable information about living people without their direct consent, or, in the case of minors, the consent of their parent or guardian. This includes (but is not limited to) a person's full name, location or contact information. </quote> There are organisations, such as the Salvation Army, who can act as intermediaries but won't give any information without the consent of the person in question. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
Hello. I recently discovered that I have a first cousin, Brian F. Macgregor, born 2/4, 1944. Lived in Loughborough, Leicestershire as recently as 2005. Then he disappears. I wondered if anyone knew him? I realize it's tricky looking for living (probably, but not certain) people. If anyone has a connection - if you know him, you may not be able to give me contact information this way, but perhaps you could give him mine? I have an address for 2003-2005 from 192,com but no other traces in recent years. Thank you for any help, Roslyn in Canada -- Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. - Martin Luther King Jr.
Yes I think most would think there will be a plethora of information on the present residents of England but the reality is that there will almost certainly be less How many computer databases will still exist never mind be in state to be interrogated in even a few decades My next sister up took me for my first day, I can remember it My first school is now a housing estate, I wonder where those records are ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > All very different from when I started school; My auntie accompanied my > mother to register me at school. Whilst waiting, my aunt sat in the > foyer reading the school day book, which had probably been put out for > that reason. It made quite depressing reading, what with the number of > references to pupil deaths (note: they died elsewhere, not on school > premises), or children not in school to attend mother's or father's > funeral, etc. > > Weird, isn't it, how we're all supposed to rationalise privacy laws & > freedom of information laws. No wonder some organisations are > destroying stuff rather than have to deal with any fallout. >
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 17:11:32 +0100 Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Nivard, >Most places have a 100 year policy from the last entry for children All very different from when I started school; My auntie accompanied my mother to register me at school. Whilst waiting, my aunt sat in the foyer reading the school day book, which had probably been put out for that reason. It made quite depressing reading, what with the number of references to pupil deaths (note: they died elsewhere, not on school premises), or children not in school to attend mother's or father's funeral, etc. Weird, isn't it, how we're all supposed to rationalise privacy laws & freedom of information laws. No wonder some organisations are destroying stuff rather than have to deal with any fallout. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999
Hi Brian I would say you have done rather well then Most places have a 100 year policy from the last entry for children They will reply to a freedom of information request from the person concerned So how you got access you would only suspect someone is unaware of the rules There seems to be a morbid fear of litigation by most councils and government bodies It appears that they and large companies are destroying many records rather than face the prospect of dealing with them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/06/2014 16:34, Brian Johnson wrote: > Hi Brian, > > That surprises me as I was able to view and photograph copies of the > Rolleston School Records in Nottinghamshire for the late 1920s > Not Leicestershire I know, so I'll apologise in advance. > > Brian Johnson > Nottingham
Hi Does anyone know which school children living in Bittesby,nr Lutterworth would attend, It looks to me to be either Ullesthorpe or Claybrook Magna. TIA Elizabeth
Hi Brian, That surprises me as I was able to view and photograph copies of the Rolleston School Records in Nottinghamshire for the late 1920s Not Leicestershire I know, so I'll apologise in advance. Brian Johnson Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: Brian Binns Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:16 PM To: liz01@fsmail.net ; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] School Records You should be aware that school records are subject to the 100 year rule - most bizarre to all thinking people - so even if you find which school, you will not be able to view the records unless before 1914. Brian Binns
You should be aware that school records are subject to the 100 year rule - most bizarre to all thinking people - so even if you find which school, you will not be able to view the records unless before 1914. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Churchill Sent: 04 June 2014 16:02 To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Subject: [LEI] School Records Hi Does anyone know which school children living in Bittesby,nr Lutterworth would attend, It looks to me to be either Ullesthorpe or Claybrook Magna. TIA Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Mike The 82nd was only transferred back to Britain from Italy in December 1943, early 1944. Its 504th Regiment was at Anzio in January 1944, and because of its losses did not take part in the D-Day operation. While in England, two other Regiments, the 507th and 508th joined the Division. In the months leading up to D-Day, they would have been extremely active with training of various types. The two new Regiments would have needed to be integrated into the command structure and exercises would have been held to test this. Re-inforcements (both new recruits as well wounded who were fit again) would have been posted to the various units to make up for the losses of the Italian campaign. In the month after D-Day, the 82nd had over 5,000 killed, wounded and missing (about a quarter to a third of their strength) which would have had to have then been replaced in tome for the Market Garden operation in mid-September. As they were jumping in the dark, and under anti-aircraft fire on D-Day, there would have been plenty of "night compass marches" to hone navigational skills in the dark in unfamiliar surroundings. Then there would have been the study of their targets, and exercises to practice the assaults on mock-ups of those targets, although the actual identity of those targets wouldn't have been revealed until the last minute. Training starts with Platoon and Company Drills (e.g. Advance to Contact, Anti-Ambush, Platoon Attacks, Company Attacks etc), then moves up the scale to Battalion, Brigade and Divisional training exercises. (One of the Battalions from the Parachute which fought in the Falklands War in 1982 fired off the equivalent 37 years of their peacetime training ammunition allowance on Ascension Island when that campaign's land forces stopped there awaiting the establishment of the blockade around the islands by the Royal Navy). The training would have also have incorporated the lessons learned from the Division's experiences in North Africa and Italy. (In 1917/18, the Americans, newly arrived in France, refused to take on board the experience offered to them by the French and British Armies and went into action as if it was still 1914, and were unnecessarily slaughtered as a result). Montgomery, who commanded the Land Forces (British and American) in Operation Neptune up until the 1st September 44, when Eisenhower took on the Land Forces Commander role in addition to being Supreme Commander, took the issue of training very seriously and promptly sacked commanders who weren't actively undertaking vigorous training programmes for their units. I know the German "Generation War" has recently been broadcast in Britain, - those of you who watched may recall the scene where the new reinforcements fresh out of training attempt to introduce themselves to the old hands and the character Friedhelm says "If you're still alive in a month's time, then you can tell me your name", reflects the true reality that the majority of casualties occur among the fully trained but inexperienced new recruits. In "The Sharp End of War" by John Ellis, which is a study of the casualty rates among the combat units of the First and Second World Wars (Infantry Armour/Cavalry, Artillery and Engineers), the rates were remarkably similar, i.e. an Infantry Lieutenant had the same life expectancy in both World Wars. It is the much larger "tails" that WWII armies had, as well as their greater manoeuvrability and the much larger battlefields involved, that grossly distort the popular perception about the two wars. Major General Julian Thompson, R.M. of Falklands War fame, makes the pertinent comment that the "missing" piece of equipment in the First World War was the tactical battlefield radio, thus once a major battle had been started, it quickly became primarily a series of company and battalion battles, as the brigade and divisional commanders lost control from the lack of adequate means of communication. So, Mike, despite being paratroopers, the 82nd wouldn't have been bored "hanging around" awaiting to play their part in the D-Day assault. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gould To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Naturally, histories tend to concentrate on where the action took place, so for local interest, I wanted to see whether I could find out anything about their time in Leicestershire. It was probably pretty boring - just waiting to be shipped out and join the offensive in France. Mike --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Dear David, Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such an interesting account. As well as my interest in family history, I also have an interest in local history and had wondered why I had not heard more about the American troops billeted locally. From the various replies to my initial query, I think a picture is emerging. If the troops were only transferred back to Britain in 1944 and then took part in training, not locally but in Braunstone Park, where they were based, that could explain why they have been few reports of local activity here in Kirby. Best wishes and thanks again for your help, Mike -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Armstrong Sent: 04 June 2014 03:08 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Mike The 82nd was only transferred back to Britain from Italy in December 1943, early 1944. Its 504th Regiment was at Anzio in January 1944, and because of its losses did not take part in the D-Day operation. While in England, two other Regiments, the 507th and 508th joined the Division. In the months leading up to D-Day, they would have been extremely active with training of various types. The two new Regiments would have needed to be integrated into the command structure and exercises would have been held to test this. Re-inforcements (both new recruits as well wounded who were fit again) would have been posted to the various units to make up for the losses of the Italian campaign. In the month after D-Day, the 82nd had over 5,000 killed, wounded and missing (about a quarter to a third of their strength) which would have had to have then been replaced in tome for the Market Garden operation in mid-September. As they were jumping in the dark, and under anti-aircraft fire on D-Day, there would have been plenty of "night compass marches" to hone navigational skills in the dark in unfamiliar surroundings. Then there would have been the study of their targets, and exercises to practice the assaults on mock-ups of those targets, although the actual identity of those targets wouldn't have been revealed until the last minute. Training starts with Platoon and Company Drills (e.g. Advance to Contact, Anti-Ambush, Platoon Attacks, Company Attacks etc), then moves up the scale to Battalion, Brigade and Divisional training exercises. (One of the Battalions from the Parachute which fought in the Falklands War in 1982 fired off the equivalent 37 years of their peacetime training ammunition allowance on Ascension Island when that campaign's land forces stopped there awaiting the establishment of the blockade around the islands by the Royal Navy). The training would have also have incorporated the lessons learned from the Division's experiences in North Africa and Italy. (In 1917/18, the Americans, newly arrived in France, refused to take on board the experience offered to them by the French and British Armies and went into action as if it was still 1914, and were unnecessarily slaughtered as a result). Montgomery, who commanded the Land Forces (British and American) in Operation Neptune up until the 1st September 44, when Eisenhower took on the Land Forces Commander role in addition to being Supreme Commander, took the issue of training very seriously and promptly sacked commanders who weren't actively undertaking vigorous training programmes for their units. I know the German "Generation War" has recently been broadcast in Britain, - those of you who watched may recall the scene where the new reinforcements fresh out of training attempt to introduce themselves to the old hands and the character Friedhelm says "If you're still alive in a month's time, then you can tell me your name", reflects the true reality that the majority of casualties occur among the fully trained but inexperienced new recruits. In "The Sharp End of War" by John Ellis, which is a study of the casualty rates among the combat units of the First and Second World Wars (Infantry Armour/Cavalry, Artillery and Engineers), the rates were remarkably similar, i.e. an Infantry Lieutenant had the same life expectancy in both World Wars. It is the much larger "tails" that WWII armies had, as well as their greater manoeuvrability and the much larger battlefields involved, that grossly distort the popular perception about the two wars. Major General Julian Thompson, R.! M. of Falklands War fame, makes the pertinent comment that the "missing" piece of equipment in the First World War was the tactical battlefield radio, thus once a major battle had been started, it quickly became primarily a series of company and battalion battles, as the brigade and divisional commanders lost control from the lack of adequate means of communication. So, Mike, despite being paratroopers, the 82nd wouldn't have been bored "hanging around" awaiting to play their part in the D-Day assault. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gould To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Naturally, histories tend to concentrate on where the action took place, so for local interest, I wanted to see whether I could find out anything about their time in Leicestershire. It was probably pretty boring - just waiting to be shipped out and join the offensive in France. Mike --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Mike Its funny you should mention it In my youth we had a mills bomb (hand grenade) but it was a dud, ie pin out no lever, I have no idea where it came from We used to play wars and throw it around the garden, it was lost one day and we never saw it again I wonder...? <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > As an aside, a local resident of Kirby Muxloe recently dug up a live British > WW2 hand grenade in her garden ! She has no idea how it got there. The > bomb disposal squad were called from Nottingham and exploded it in a nearby > field. > > Best wishes, > > Mike
The 82nd Division saw action in Sicily, their first combat drop (although they had previously been in action in Tunisia. After being dropped on the Cotentin Peninsula on the night of the 5th/6th June as part of Operation Neptune, they returned to England and then took part in Operation Market Garden with the objective of bridges in the southern Netherlands including that at Nijmegen. (Market Garden is better known to the British for the part played by the British 1st Airborne Division at Arnhem). Then in December 1944, the 82nd was used as ordinary infantry to hold Bastogne in the face of the German Ardennes offensive commonly known as the "Battle of the Bulge". David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gould To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Hi Nivard, That sounds very likely. Do you know anything about what action they saw ? Best wishes, Mike -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 03 June 2014 10:46 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Hi Mike Could it be officers billets for the 82nd Airborne which camped on Braunstone Park ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/06/2014 10:23, Mike Gould wrote: > Hi Brian & All, > > Thanks for a very interesting posting on a topical subject. Some of you may > have read the article in Friday's Leicester Mercury about the spoof "US 9th > Airborne Division", created for Operation Fortitude to fool the Nazis into > believing that there was an American division stationed in Leicestershire. > It was all fiction - however, I do know that American forces were billeted > in The Towers, a large country house in Kirby Muxloe. Does anyone know > which unit they would have come from and whether they were involved in D-Day > ? Any info welcome. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
The actual D-Day assault in Normandy on the 6th June 1944 was known as "Operation Neptune". It was the major component of "Operation Overlord", the latter being the overall plan for the invasion of north-west France bounded by the Seine in the East and Loire to the south. To be finicky in regard to terminology, the 82nd Airborne was a Division which is a "formation" and had many "units" under its command. A "unit" in the army is a Battalion, with companies, platoons etc being "sub-units". Brigades, Divisions and Corps are all "formations". The 82nd's Divisional Headquarters was at Braunstone Park with the Division's main camp at Victoria Park after it moved from Italy to England. The Division's 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment was at Wollaton Park, Notts and the 507th Regt at Tollerton Hall, Notts. With somewhere in the region of 12,000 men, an airborne division requires a lot of accommodation! Regards David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Hi Mike Could it be officers billets for the 82nd Airborne which camped on Braunstone Park ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/06/2014 10:23, Mike Gould wrote: > Hi Brian & All, > > Thanks for a very interesting posting on a topical subject. Some of you may > have read the article in Friday's Leicester Mercury about the spoof "US 9th > Airborne Division", created for Operation Fortitude to fool the Nazis into > believing that there was an American division stationed in Leicestershire. > It was all fiction - however, I do know that American forces were billeted > in The Towers, a large country house in Kirby Muxloe. Does anyone know > which unit they would have come from and whether they were involved in D-Day > ? Any info welcome. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Hi Carolyn, Thanks for that. Yes, I took a look at their website & the entry in Wikipedia. Naturally, histories tend to concentrate on where the action took place, so for local interest, I wanted to see whether I could find out anything about their time in Leicestershire. It was probably pretty boring - just waiting to be shipped out and join the offensive in France. As an aside, a local resident of Kirby Muxloe recently dug up a live British WW2 hand grenade in her garden ! She has no idea how it got there. The bomb disposal squad were called from Nottingham and exploded it in a nearby field. Best wishes, Mike -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles Sidebottom Sent: 03 June 2014 15:42 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Mike, You can Google (82nd Airborne + WW2) and get lots of information. The 82nd is still an active unit, but it will be losing it's parachuting status at the end of this year. Training is considered too costly in both money and accidents to be worthwhile for a skill that is fast becoming obsolete in modern warfare. Carolyn in Minnesota, USA -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gould Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 5:15 AM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Hi Nivard, That sounds very likely. Do you know anything about what action they saw ? Best wishes, Mike -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 03 June 2014 10:46 To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] D Day Hi Mike Could it be officers billets for the 82nd Airborne which camped on Braunstone Park ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/06/2014 10:23, Mike Gould wrote: > Hi Brian & All, > > Thanks for a very interesting posting on a topical subject. Some of you may > have read the article in Friday's Leicester Mercury about the spoof "US 9th > Airborne Division", created for Operation Fortitude to fool the Nazis into > believing that there was an American division stationed in Leicestershire. > It was all fiction - however, I do know that American forces were billeted > in The Towers, a large country house in Kirby Muxloe. Does anyone know > which unit they would have come from and whether they were involved in D-Day > ? Any info welcome. > > Best wishes, > > Mike Gould ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message