Thank you Brad for the info, as I expected they may well have put him anywhere in the country. I may be able to track him down. Regards George Pickering Rainham, Kent. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Rogers via Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:07 AM To: Leicestershire ML Subject: Re: [LEI] JOHN PICKERING OF PACKINGTON - CRIMINAL RECORDS On Mon, 1 Sep 2014 07:28:17 +0100 George via <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello George, >He was sentenced to six months hard labour. At which prison would he >have been committed, Leicester perhaps? Then, as now, wherever a place was available. The preference seeming to be that it be a long way from home. Two reasons I can think of for that; It makes it harder for family to visit, thus increasing the feeling of being punished and secondly, making escape harder to achieve due to lack of arranging much in the way of outside help. Whether those were the /real/ reasons, IDK. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" We don't give a damn One Chord Wonders - The Adverts ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 1 Sep 2014 07:28:17 +0100 George via <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello George, >He was sentenced to six months hard labour. At which prison would he >have been committed, Leicester perhaps? Then, as now, wherever a place was available. The preference seeming to be that it be a long way from home. Two reasons I can think of for that; It makes it harder for family to visit, thus increasing the feeling of being punished and secondly, making escape harder to achieve due to lack of arranging much in the way of outside help. Whether those were the /real/ reasons, IDK. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" We don't give a damn One Chord Wonders - The Adverts

Dear List, At the Police Court, ASHBY-DE-LA-ZOUCH, on Saturday 3rd June 1876, my 3rd great grandfather John PICKERING pleaded guilty of assaulting his wife Julia PICKERING (Tamworth Herald 10 Jun 1876). He was sentenced to six months hard labour. At which prison would he have been committed, Leicester perhaps? Regards George Pickering Rainham, Kent.

For as long as I can remember AOL have been the most problematic of emailers, certainly well over a decade Second to that is Yahoo Whether that has effected contact with you is difficult to define for obvious reasons I have removed the other list addresses as cross posting can cause problems for list admins, it is never a good idea to cross post, it only takes a few seconds if you want to send to more than one list Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/08/2014 10:49, DrGeneal via wrote: > Several of ny friends and some businesses have repoted difficulty in > contacting me because I use AOL.Com > Has anybody come across that prob;em? DrGeneal

Several of ny friends and some businesses have repoted difficulty in contacting me because I use AOL.Com Has anybody come across that prob;em? DrGeneal

Just starting the  gilliver side of family, looking for any info on Thomas gilliver born c1797 at sheepy magna,leicestershire, poss married a mary ?. Any info will be greatfully recived. Sent from Samsung Mobile

Hi Terence, How about this family from the 1841 and 1851 censuses: 1841 Thomas Gilliver 40 Blaby Union, Enderby Mary Gilliver 40 Blaby Union, Enderby Mary Gilliver 20 Blaby Union, Enderby Jane Gilliver 16 Blaby Union, Enderby Harriott Gilliver 12 Blaby Union, Enderby Thomas Gilliver 10 Blaby Union, Enderby Charlotte Gilliver 8 Blaby Union, Enderby Caroline Gilliver 7 Blaby Union, Enderby Emily Gilliver 5 Blaby Union, Enderby 1851 Thomas Gilliver 57 Blaby, Enderby Mary Gilliver 56 Blaby, Enderby George Gilliver 24 Blaby, Enderby Harriet Gilliver 21 Blaby, Enderby Thomas Gilliver 20 Blaby, Enderby Caroline Gilliver 16 Blaby, Enderby Amelia Gilliver 14 Blaby, Enderby Regards, Paul On 25/08/2014 1:26 PM, terenceholmes156 via wrote: > Just starting the gilliver side of family, looking for any info on Thomas gilliver born c1797 at sheepy magna,leicestershire, poss married a mary ?. Any info will be greatfully recived. > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I believe that Stephen Harper and his government are damaging many of the values and institutions that we and our ancestors have fought long and hard for. I am sufficiently concerned that I started the Facebook page End the Nightmare - Stephen Harper Must Go <http://www.facebook.com/EndtheNightmareStephenHarperMustGo> Please check it out and "Like" it if you support the ideas you find there.

Hi all Do we still have a Ritch Blood in the house ? Posted as ritch@gamefreaks.freeuk.com I have someone who wants to speak to you on BERRINGTONs if so -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Which I guess illustrates the usefulness of the archives :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/08/2014 11:34, Bradshaw Derek wrote: > The BROTHERHOOD request was sent by me directly to Barbara and contact > has now been re-established. > > Derek Bradshaw.

The BROTHERHOOD request was sent by me directly to Barbara and contact has now been re-established. Derek Bradshaw. On 02/08/2014, Nivard Ovington via <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Barbara > > If you lose an email or want to re-establish contact with a previous > poster, the list archives are the best way > > But looking in this lists archives the only BROTHERHOOD post in 2014 > appears to be yours > > There are 55 other posts in 2014 on other lists though or was it older > than that? > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 02/08/2014 02:49, bar_ron@telus.net via wrote: >> Had a blip with my computer and lost the address for the person who was >> looking for the name Brotherhood so could you please email me... >> >> Thanks...Barbara > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Barbara If you lose an email or want to re-establish contact with a previous poster, the list archives are the best way But looking in this lists archives the only BROTHERHOOD post in 2014 appears to be yours There are 55 other posts in 2014 on other lists though or was it older than that? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/08/2014 02:49, bar_ron@telus.net via wrote: > Had a blip with my computer and lost the address for the person who was looking for the name Brotherhood so could you please email me... > > Thanks...Barbara

Had a blip with my computer and lost the address for the person who was looking for the name Brotherhood so could you please email me... Thanks...Barbara

Hello, I am looking for places where I might find more information to find out what my 3g grandfather did while in Leicester in the early part of the 19th century, a connection that I've only recently become aware of. Here is a not-so-short summary of what I know: ROBERT RANYARD was born in Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey in 1780. He married SARAH HAYCRAFT on 4 October 1809 at St. Paul's Deptford. Their daughter Emma was born in Noble St., London and and baptised at Haberdasher's Hall Independent Church. Both families were Independents becoming Baptists later in life. They knew each other from Kingston as they all attended he same church, Heather St. Independent, judging by the children's baptisms. By 1841, the RANYARDs are in Clifton, Bedfordshire. where he is shown as of Independent means. So that gives book ends for time. Daughter Emma had married Edward West in Warwick (not quite sure what the Warwick connection is but both were of that parish) in 1835 but by 1841 was living in Shefford, Beds just a few miles from her parents, or more likely vice versa. The RANYARD family were mostly tallow chandlers; the Haycrafts Ironmongers in both Kingston and Deptford. However, Robert seems to have been more a merchant (he was a second son). I think he was in Canterbury, Kent before his marriage. The information I have on him in Leicester is that he was a merchant and/or hosiery manufacturer. Between about 1805 and 1831, at various times, he inherited a significant amount of property and money from his father's estate ($1000 cash; £2000 in government stock; property at Oxshott, Surrey). In 1822 and 1828, he was listed in Rutland St. under Manufacturers of Hosiery, although his newspaper obituary in several newspapers referred to him as a merchant. So I don't know if he was a factory owner or a wholesaler. He was listed as a resident who did not vote in a poll in 1832, still of Rutland St. Don't know whether that would be a residential or business address or both. Per the 1841 Poll books, he still owned property in Leicestershire: in Bitteswell, freehold houses and land inhabited by Sarah and William Morriss (not found due to legibility problems); in Ullesthorpe, freehold houses inhabited by Charles Shipman (a labourer and family per the census) and others ; and freehold houses in Belgrave Gate, Leicester (not named). His nephew Benjamin of Swancombe, Kent owned freehold houses in Canning Place. Robert's Will of 1853 makes no reference to any specific real anywhere. However, when it was proven in 1855, it says "formerly of Noble St. in the City of London afterwards of Leicester in the County of Leicestershire but late of Clifton in the County of Bedford". There are a couple of other tidbits: Sister Sarah's will written in 1818 refers to £500 lent to Robert and "that share in farms (I think) which was purchased at Leicester" Brother William's will of 1845 refers to "the mortgage of eight hundred pounds of Mr. Austins of Leicester on his estate in that town" Whether either of these are the properties owned by Robert in 1841, I haven't a clue - but William was pretty well off and it would have been quite possible for him to offer a mortgage on a property sold by his brother. So there's sort of story but it has far too many holes! Any ideas about how I can find out more about Robert, his work, his properties etc would be much appreciated. Alison Vancouver

Hi Roslyn, hope that you do not think that I have forgotten you. This is an update on what I have done so far. I have checked with Charnwood Borough Council and checked the voter's rolls. Brian was at this address 2002 - 2008. possibly before this, but I could not get that info over the phone. The 2009 roll was compiled from returns in October 2008, so he was not there at that time. Also living at the address was Janice A Jarram at the same time but she was there until 2011 roll, this was compiled from returns in October 2010. There was an electoral survey on 6th November 2011 and on the return Janice was crossed out. This would fit in with the February 2011 sale of the property. Again I do not know if Janice was there before 2002. I visited 18 Blake Drive today and spoke to one of the current occupants. He had been there for about 3 years and did not know either Brian or Janice However he knew the names as he said that they still get mail for them. He is going to speak to his landlord at the weekend and see if he knows them. I left my tel number and e-mail address. I tried a few other neighbours but no one at home. I did speak to a gent just around the corner but he did not know them. If you check on 192.com for Janice A Jarram there are two entries, one is fir the same period as Brian and the other is for the voter's roll 2013-2014 Dennis Jackson has just sent me this address and I will check it out in the next few days. If you could look this up on FMP maybe we could trace her and find out more about Brian. He obviously lived with her for some time. I contacted the County Registrar to see if there has been a recent death recorded for either of them, but they would only tell me that they had no records for them. This does not include Leicester City which has its own office, and would have been used if they were in one of the city hospitals or care homes. I tried directory enquiries for Janice here in Loughborough. They have 2 listed, one is ex directory and the other is 01509 551478. Without more info I am reluctant to call. So that is where I am, not much further I am afraid but some more info and perhaps a little closer. I did a bit of searching on FreeBMD to see what I could find. I am sure that you have them but here they are anyway and you can cross check. Birth Brian F Macgregor J1944 Fulham 1a/434 Mother Graham Marriage Ernest M Macgregor - Dorothy E Graham M1942 Chelsea 1a/734 Birth Ernest M Macgregor J1923 Chelsea 1a/616 Mother Seaton Marriage Malcolm L Macgregor - Dorothy A H Seaton J1916 Hendon 3a/688 Birth ??? Malcolm Macgregor D1888 Huddersfield 9a/344 Marriage Brian F Macgregor - Christine Hughes J1964 Chelsea 5c/542 Birth Christine Hughes M1944 Chelsea 1a/500 Mother Cook Birth Janice A Jarram M1944 Loughborough 7a/211 Mother Hunt Marriage Joseph Jarram - Margaret Hunt D1927 Loughboro' 7a/384 Birth Joseph Jarram S1899 Loughborough 7a135 I think the key to finding Brian is Janice. Hope that all of this is some use, if I find out more I will let you know. Regards Mike -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roslyn Macgregor Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 9:33 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Brian F. MACGREGOR Hello. I recently discovered that I have a first cousin, Brian F. Macgregor, born 2/4, 1944. Lived in Loughborough, Leicestershire as recently as 2005. Then he disappears. I wondered if anyone knew him? I realize it's tricky looking for living (probably, but not certain) people. If anyone has a connection - if you know him, you may not be able to give me contact information this way, but perhaps you could give him mine? I have an address for 2003-2005 from 192,com but no other traces in recent years. Thank you for any help, Roslyn in Canada -- Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. - Martin Luther King Jr. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara I have a BALL ancestor who I don't know much about. She was Mary Ball born about 1797 in Leics (from 1841 Census). She married Thomas Holmes in Ibstock on 18 Oct 1819 (from IGI) and had 10 children. She died before the 1851 Census. She was my greatx3 grandmother. What registers have you obtained? Baptisms, marriages or burials. Are they for the whole of Leics? Where do your BALLs come from? Regards Geraldine Bancroft Researching in Leics: ADAMS, BANCROFT, BEET, COOK, GOWTAGE/GOWTRIDGE, MEASURES, MORTIMER, NEAL, ROSE, SHARP(E), STATHAM, YEOMANS -----Original Message----- From: bar_ron@telus.net via Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] BALL family In my quest to find my grandfather x 5 and having no success I decided to purchase the Leicestershire Parish registeries for the Ball name & it contained the other names beginning with the letter B... This had been a very large wall that just didn't seem to want to go away...hence my decision to purchase the registeries....and the wall came tumbling down.... If there are any other BALL relations in Leicestershire I would love to be able to connect with them, also if there is anyone searching for a "B" person please let me know & like have a look and see if I can be of any help. I was born in Heanor, Derbyshire and now live in Langley, British Columbia, Canada Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If someone has access to vital records for Shepshed (aka Sheepshed) could they please look up the following persons. Charlotte BANCROFT - born approx. 1803. She married Charles TAYLOR 1822, in Shepshed and died 1847 in Derby. I am Looking for birth record Catherine BANCROFT - unknown dob. She possiblity married a Mr. LESTER. I am looking for birth and marriage records. The marriage record for Charles Taylor & Charlotte/Elizabeth Bancroft shows a witness named Catherine Lester. I'm trying determine whether she was Charlotte's sister. I greatly appreciate any help I may receive. Janice Cassani Massachusetts, USA

If anyone has access to Shepshed marriages, could they please look up the marriage between Charles Taylor of Loughboroughand Charlotte Bancroft. They were marriage 4 Nov 1822 in Shepshed. I am trying to prove that they are my ancestors. Thank you. Janice CassaniMassachusetts, USA

Hi Vern I looked up your marriage today at the Loughborough library, where they have the PR's on microfiche. I found the marriage on microfiche DE 2594/15, Loughborough,Emmanuel, Leics C.R.O Fiche 3 of 5 Parish Church of the Parish of Emmanuel,Loughborough Page 162, Entry 323, July 10th 1850 John Stenson 19 Batchelor, Potter, Mile St., Father Joseph Stenson, Earthenware Dealer. Elizabeth Barradell 19 Spinster,Mile St., Father Joseph Barradell, Shoemaker. Rites and Ceromonies of the Established Church by registar's certificate. Witness's Eli Skidders and F Grimbly R J Bench Rector The witnesses names and that of the rector were hard to read but these ere my best interpretations. Hope that this is some use after all this time. Regards Mike -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vern Prescott Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:19 AM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Loughborough marriage STENSON - BARRADELL If anyone has access to Loughborough marriages, would they please look up the marriage of John STENSON to Elizabeth BARRADELL September quarter 1850, and let me know the details Thanks. Vern

Thanks for this Mike. As usual, one question is answered and another arises! Vern On 27 July 2014 12:14, Mike Clooney via <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Vern I looked up your marriage today at the Loughborough library, where > they have the PR's on microfiche. > > I found the marriage on microfiche DE 2594/15, Loughborough,Emmanuel, Leics > C.R.O Fiche 3 of 5 > Parish Church of the Parish of Emmanuel,Loughborough > Page 162, Entry 323, July 10th 1850 > John Stenson 19 Batchelor, Potter, Mile St., > Father Joseph Stenson, Earthenware Dealer. > Elizabeth Barradell 19 Spinster,Mile St., > Father Joseph Barradell, Shoemaker. > Rites and Ceromonies of the Established Church by registar's certificate. > Witness's Eli Skidders and F Grimbly > R J Bench Rector > > The witnesses names and that of the rector were hard to read but these ere > my best interpretations. > Hope that this is some use after all this time. > Regards > Mike

In my quest to find my grandfather x 5 and having no success I decided to purchase the Leicestershire Parish registeries for the Ball name & it contained the other names beginning with the letter B... This had been a very large wall that just didn't seem to want to go away...hence my decision to purchase the registeries....and the wall came tumbling down.... If there are any other BALL relations in Leicestershire I would love to be able to connect with them, also if there is anyone searching for a "B" person please let me know & like have a look and see if I can be of any help. I was born in Heanor, Derbyshire and now live in Langley, British Columbia, Canada Barbara