Hi does anyone know where someone might go to school living in the small hamlet of Bittesby just outside Lutterworth in 1891. My grandmother was born in Newton just down the road and was living in Bittesby age 6 As the crow flies the choice is Lutterworth, Claybrook Magna or Ullesthorpe. Thanks Elizabeth

I pass this one for information which I have copied from an email sent me. I access Newspapers online via my Find my Past subscription, but for those that don't have this, the following offer is an opportunity to find your ancestors in local newspapers. How to claim your discount 1) Visit The British Newspaper Archive 2) Enter the promotion code SEPT14 3) Click the 'apply code' and choose the 1 month subscription Be quick! The offer ends on Sunday Buy a 1 month subscription before 23.59 (GMT) on Sunday 28 September to take advantage of this amazing discount. www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk -- Brian Binns

Hi all, I live OS in Australia and have not seen this episode yet. I agree here with Brian about how they tell the person its about that you just go to www. etc and right away your ancestor appears including photos. They don't tell the amateur genealogist that it cost money to join all these sites and that you could have hundreds and hundreds of possible matches to sort through. They should make it clear that its not that simple( as it looks on the show), it takes lots and lots of info to search through and can take you months or years to find you ancestor having to think and look at all variations of spelling of the name and possible miss transcribed records of the people how had put this info into these said websites. I have been doing family history for 21yrs now and still have not found all of my ancestors I am working on more than just one line, i have been doing most of my lines on my both of my parents families and my spouses both parent lines. I haven't done much lately, been to busy with other thing and don't have the finances to paid for these sites and being in OZ had to get records. regards Cheryl Toach South Australia -----Original Message----- From: Brian Binns via Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:10 PM To: NOTTSGEN-L ; leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Who do you think you are Last night's episode on Martin Shaw was very interesting and watchable, but I won't spoil it for those here and abroad who have yet to view it. The only problem for amateur family historians like us is that we see the progress through the subject's ancestry from a totally different perspective than do non-researchers. One thing last night did annoy me more than most though. Martin was searching on-line for his great grandfather - presumably having been led there by a researcher. It looked like it was Ancestry.com where he was looking. He clicked on the name and came up not only with info about his great grandfather, but a photo of him and his wife. Now we all know that such photos do not magically appear, someone would have had to upload them onto the website.This surely would have been another descendant of the said great grandfather, but this line of research was not followed up at all. Many viewers would have been led to believe that just by clicking on name, photos and other information would be instantly available. And let's be honest, the advertising put out by the likes of Ancestry.com does sort of imply this to get people to start searching. Finally a plea to the BBC. Can you tell your continuity announcer of last night that the subject is Genealogy. It is not an -ology. Mind you, I have even heard researchers on WDYTYA mis-pronounce the word, which is very poor. Brian Binns ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:40:14 +0100 Brian Binns via <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Brian, >Finally a plea to the BBC. Can you tell your continuity announcer of >last night that the subject is Genealogy. It is not an -ology. Mind Give it time: It'll be listed in dictionaries as an alternative pronunciation sooner or later. Followed a few years later by the -ology ending being noted as a suitable alternative. Then, a few years after *that* -ology will be listed as the _preferred_ spelling/pronunciation. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You destroyed my confidence, you broke my nerve Nervous Wreck - Radio Stars

Brian, I am so glad you decided to post an entry about this show--sometimes the media need to be taken to task for sloppy continuity work and accuracy. However, since I don't live in the area where Martin Shaw is generally known, I probably will not have an opportunity to see the episode. What I really wanted to connect with you about was another matter. I have just joined the Quaker-British Isles Rootsweb mailing list in hopes that some list member or members might be able to help me in my research concerning Barnsley Friends Adult School. I am interested in finding out all I can about the BFAS particularly in the years surrounding 1908 because I have a Class of 1908 photo consisting of formal portraits of 69 students and the patrons or sponsors of the school--Edward and Catherine Brady. What is interesting about all of this is that three of the men in the photo are PADLEY relatives of mine. There may be more men with Padley ties in the picture that I have no way of identifying. I would like to know what else besides a social society was available to these men, and more about the Barnsley Friends Adult School in general, including the patrons, Edward and Catherine Brady. I would be grateful for any documented information anyone might be able to provide or steer me toward, since I have been able to find very little online. Almost immediately, I connected with a very nice lady who is related to the Bradys and she also had some general information about the Friends' Adult School movement. One publication she has cited is, "A History of the Adult School movement" by John Wilhelm Rowntree and Henry Bryan Binns. Published by Headley, 1903, pp. 46, 48, 56. Could you possibly be related to Henry Bryan Binns? I am so curious, I couldn't help but ask! Carolyn Sidebottom Minnesota, USA

Last night's episode on Martin Shaw was very interesting and watchable, but I won't spoil it for those here and abroad who have yet to view it. The only problem for amateur family historians like us is that we see the progress through the subject's ancestry from a totally different perspective than do non-researchers. One thing last night did annoy me more than most though. Martin was searching on-line for his great grandfather - presumably having been led there by a researcher. It looked like it was Ancestry.com where he was looking. He clicked on the name and came up not only with info about his great grandfather, but a photo of him and his wife. Now we all know that such photos do not magically appear, someone would have had to upload them onto the website.This surely would have been another descendant of the said great grandfather, but this line of research was not followed up at all. Many viewers would have been led to believe that just by clicking on name, photos and other information would be instantly available. And let's be honest, the advertising put out by the likes of Ancestry.com does sort of imply this to get people to start searching. Finally a plea to the BBC. Can you tell your continuity announcer of last night that the subject is Genealogy. It is not an -ology. Mind you, I have even heard researchers on WDYTYA mis-pronounce the word, which is very poor. Brian Binns

Re-posting my family interest. Gilliver - enderby. Bennett - wigston. Smart - wigston. Coulson - whetstone,

Hi to those interested in ENDERBY village Our next meeting is tonight, Monday 15th Sept 2014 We will be running the Enderby film and Arnold Young will be discussing Enderby Memories Meet at Enderby Civic Centre for starting at 7.30pm. (Entrance on King Street) If anyone has any World War I photos or information can you bring them so I can copy them at the meeting. Please forward to anyone you think might be interested Hope to see you there. Elizabeth York <http://www.enderbyheritage.org.uk> www.enderbyheritage.org.uk

Hi, I’ve just joined the list. I am trying to find out who may have lived in The Laurels, Main Street , Claybrooke Magna, before 1880 and after 1928. I know that in between those times the Wakefields, Carrells and Thursfields lived there. I think it must have been a farm before it was called the Laurels but the census doesn’t help in this case. Any clues would be very welcome. Val Sent from Windows Mail

Hello Everyone I am new to this list and wondered if anyone can help me with a query? I am currently tracing a Briggs family that ended up in South Yorkshire, I am now trying to find information about WILLIAM BRIGGS who was born c 1812. The censuses suggest he was born in Diseworth. The records from 1813 onwards suggest there were two Briggs families having children in Diseworth at that time one of the families baptisedin Diseworth itself and the other baptised in Long Whatton. Has anyone come across this William Briggs or can help in any way? Many Thanks Jim Cutts

Hello Everyone. Thanks to mike and many others, I found the cousin I was looking for and am visiting his family tomorrow before returing to canada in a fe days. Since he's still living and I shouldn't really have asked on the site - I won't put his name in, but he has the same last name I do :-) Thank you s o much. I would never have found him without you. Roslyn -- Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. - Martin Luther King Jr.

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 "Charles Sidebottom" <sidebc1@comcast.net> wrote >Subject: [LEI] National Burial index > >Hi Listers! Happy New Year! > >Does anyone know a knowledgeable person in the Kirkby in Ashfield, >Nottingham area that I could have an email conversation with concerning the >National Burial Index and it's apparent inconsistencies of dates and >jurisdictions regarding one of my ancestors? > >BACKGROUND FOR THIS REQUEST: > >At present, the NBI seems to indicate that Eliza Tindall, who was born 24 >Feb 1840 and died 11 Mar 1840, was buried 13 Mar 1840 in Kirkby in Ashfield >in a cemetery dedicated to St. Thomas. The denomination of St. Thomas is >Anglican. The coverage for this NBI entry spans the years 1813 to 1963. Hi Charles (or anyone who can help) Mention of Kirkby in Ashfield caught my eye, and I wondered if you or a fellow lister can help. I have for some time been looking for the burial place of my grandfather's uncle Martin PICKARD who died at Annesley, Notts, on 4 April 1873 aged 36. I do not know where he is buried. I would be grateful if you could see if there is mention of his burial on the National Burial Index. I know from my grandmother's 1925 diary that my grandfather Thomas HOULT and his aunt Charlotte PARKIN hired a car and travelled from Somercotes and visited his uncle (and her brother) Martin PICKARD's grave in 1925 before travelling on to Newstead, Notts. In the last few weeks I have found a photo of Martin PICKARD's grave. It has a very unusual headstone. The stone appears to be a steeply pitched isosceles triangle-shaped slab surmounted by a Celtic cross. Perhaps someone can remember seeing a rather unusual Celtic cross cross matching that description? There is another tiny clue. In the background of the photo is another grave with the briefest of inscription visible, being obscured both by granddad's aunt Charlotte and by her brother's headstone. I'm really clutching at straws, but that headstone *may* be that of a FITKIN family who *may* have lived at Kirkby in Ashfield. My reasoning: I can make out " In Loving Memory of " " A-- " [the rest is obscured, but it's a very short name - probably 'Ann'] " The bel- " [obscured by the circle of the Celtic cross] " -e of " and further down ... " -Y HE- " "of the abo-" " Asleep in Je- " " 1881, in his 18 " A search for the death of a 17 year old male in the Basford registration district in 1881 leads me to suspect that the 17 year old son " -Y HE- " is Deaths Jun 1881 FITKIN Henry Herbert 17 Basford 7b 69 It would then seem likely that the top person on the headstone may be Deaths Jun 1888 FITKIN Ann 55 Basford 7b 68 who may be the wife of the John FITKIN of Pearl Farm, Kirkby-in-Ashfield who died in August 1908. As Kirkby-in-Ashfield is quite near Annesley, I wondered if Martin PICKARD may be buried there. I look forward to a reply as to whether Martin PICKARD's burial is recorded in the National Burial Index, and whether I am right in my supposition for FITKIN on the grave marker behind it. Regards Graham Hoult Kirwee, Canterbury, New Zealand.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote >Subject: [LEI] Samuel Maurice Elijah HALL > >Hi all > >I wondered if anyone has a connection to the HALL family mentioned below > >I have a pocket bible from WW1, sadly not connected to my own family but >something that was left in the garage of a previous home in Leicestershire > >It has "The Soldiers Bible" printed on the front cover, size 9cm x >13.5cm x 3cm thick, black or very dark blue covers, on the inside of the >front cover is "A Soldiers Prayer" > >There is an inscription inside from the soldier to his son in 1916, from >research I now know he was Samuel Maurice (or Morris) Elijah HALL 67009 >of the 1st Btn Sherwood Foresters sadly I found he died 31st July 1917 >(and have accumulated much on the family now) > >Also inside is "Supplied for Public Service" with a Crown above it, it >was printed by Horace Hart : Oxford, Printer to the University > >The poignant inscription reads "From dady to master George Harry HALL. >my son and God bless his little heart Oct 4th 1916" George Harry was >then 3 years old > >The CWGC shows Samuels parents as Michael and Rachael > >HALL, S M E >Rank: Private >Service No: 67009 >Date of Death: 31/07/1917 >Age: 30 >Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) 1st Bn >Grave Reference XXIX. B. 18. >Cemetery BUTTES NEW BRITISH CEMETERY, POLYGON WOOD >Additional Information: > >Son of Michael and Rachel Hall, of Whetstone, Leicester; husband of Alma >Hall, of Central View, Littlethorpe, Leicestershire. > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Hi Nivard >I have a pocket bible from WW1, sadly not connected to my own family but >something that was left in the garage of a previous home in Leicestershire Did you ever find a home for that bible? It could have been useful to have told us when it was that you found this bible :-( I have no prior knowledge of this family, but as I can't see any response to your query in the list have put my thinking cap on. Given that S M E HALL's wife was Alma, this looks to be the marriage of young George Harry HALL's parents: Marriages Jun 1913 HALL Samuel M E /HEIGHTON Blaby 7a 95 HEIGHTON Alma /HALL Blaby 7a 95 and his mother's birth Births Mar 1890 HEIGHTON Alma Blaby 7a 58 > To master George Harry HALL. my son and God bless his little heart Oct 4th 1916" > George Harry was then 3 years old Births Sep 1913 HALL George H /HEIGHTON Blaby 7a 79 Blaby is in Leicestershire - Sub-districts : Enderby, Wigston, Wigston Magna George looks to have been an only child. IF Alma HALL didn't remarry after her husband's death, THEN this may be her death index entry [age 75 is a good match for 1890 birth of Alma HEIGHTON] Deaths Sep 1965 HALL Alma 75 Leicester C. 3a 411 BINGO - look at who is the administrator of Alma HALL's estate ! 1965 National Probate Calendar HALL Alma of 30 The Square Littlethorpe Leicestershire died 2 September 1965 at Rose Cottage Satation street Whetstone Leicestershire Administration London 29 November to George Harry Hall general decorator. £870. Does that address 30 The Square Littlethorpe look fsmiliar ? Given the registration district Blaby, this looks as if it could be young George's marriage [if him, he would have been aged about 23] Marriages Sep 1935 HALL George H /COOPER Blaby 7a 125 COOPER Lily M /HALL Blaby 7a 125 Given that Alma died in 1965, and administrator was a George Harry HALL, this is presumably a different George Harry HALL 1962 National Probate Calendar HALL George Harry of 29 Warren Road Narborough Leicestershire died 6 October 1962 at Markfield Hospital Leicestershire Probate Leicester 28 November to Harold Vincent Jackson and Harry Eaton Jackson solicitors. Effects £8970 14s. or does that address look familiar? Hope some of this helps. Time for zzzs Graham Hoult down_under in Kirwee, Canterbury, New Zealand

Thanks Ann-Marie and Don, The chapel is on Coventry Road and looking at the picture on Street View it looks to be the Victorian one. I assumed that this was not the chapel because it is very close to the town. Aunt Essie described it as out of town whilst she described going into town to her school and her father's shop which were at the end of the street. I did wonder if in fact the Market Harborough chapel is newer than the time of Thomas Cook. Teresa

Hi Graham Well that was a surprise to find, but a pleasant one As it happens I do have that information and no I have not had any takers for it so far, but one of the reasons I posted to the list is so that a future researcher might happen upon it so there is still a chance It would not have helped to know when I gained it as I know the owner was still living at the time, to confuse matters although registered as George Harry HALL, he was always known as Harry, he died in 2002 By coincidence my wife lived at the Square Littlethorpe for a time, and she has a loose connection to the HEIGHTONs But thank you for your hard work, with luck it will be of help to some as yet unknown relative researching in the future Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Did you ever find a home for that bible? > > It could have been useful to have told us when it was that you found > this bible :-( > > I have no prior knowledge of this family, but as I can't see any > response to your query in the list have put my thinking cap on. > > Given that S M E HALL's wife was Alma, this looks to be the marriage of > young George Harry HALL's parents: > > Marriages Jun 1913 > HALL Samuel M E /HEIGHTON Blaby 7a 95 > HEIGHTON Alma /HALL Blaby 7a 95

>From my memory of Harborough the Baptist Chapel used to be on Coventry Road but I think it was demolished many years ago now. Coventry Road was called Lubenham Lane and in the late 1800's was classed as outside of Harborough. Ann-Marie -----Original Message----- From: Don Haines via Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 1:36 AM To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com ; Teresa Callan via Subject: Re: [LEI] Chapel Location According to Wikipaedia, he was a Baptist. This extract gives the relevant clues: "......He was brought up as a strict Baptist, and joined his local Temperance Society. In February 1826, Cook became a preacher, and toured the region as a village evangelist, distributing pamphlets, and occasionally working as a cabinet maker to earn money.[1] After working as a part- time publisher of Baptist and Temperance pamphlets, he became a Baptist minister in 1828. In 1832, Cook moved to Adam and Eve Street in Market Harborough. Influenced by the local Baptist minister Francis Beardsall, he took the temperance pledge on New Year's Day in 1833. As a part of the temperance movement, he organized meetings and held anti-liquor processions......" Regards Don Haines On Tue 02/09/14 19:42 , "Teresa Callan via" leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com sent: > My grandfather was born on the outskirts of Market Harborough. His > sisterwrote down her memories of life in the years she was in the area - > from > herbirth in 1881 to 1889. One of her memories was "On Sundays we went > withfather and mother to a small chapel outside the town. Thomas Cook, > (thefounder of Cooks' Tours) had been a member there, before he went to > live > inLeicester. Does anyone know which chapel this was? > > > > Teresa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8144 - Release Date: 09/02/14

According to Wikipaedia, he was a Baptist. This extract gives the relevant clues: "......He was brought up as a strict Baptist, and joined his local Temperance Society. In February 1826, Cook became a preacher, and toured the region as a village evangelist, distributing pamphlets, and occasionally working as a cabinet maker to earn money.[1] After working as a part- time publisher of Baptist and Temperance pamphlets, he became a Baptist minister in 1828. In 1832, Cook moved to Adam and Eve Street in Market Harborough. Influenced by the local Baptist minister Francis Beardsall, he took the temperance pledge on New Year's Day in 1833. As a part of the temperance movement, he organized meetings and held anti-liquor processions......" Regards Don Haines On Tue 02/09/14 19:42 , "Teresa Callan via" leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com sent: > My grandfather was born on the outskirts of Market Harborough. His > sisterwrote down her memories of life in the years she was in the area - from > herbirth in 1881 to 1889. One of her memories was "On Sundays we went > withfather and mother to a small chapel outside the town. Thomas Cook, > (thefounder of Cooks' Tours) had been a member there, before he went to live > inLeicester. Does anyone know which chapel this was? > > > > Teresa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

My grandfather was born on the outskirts of Market Harborough. His sister wrote down her memories of life in the years she was in the area - from her birth in 1881 to 1889. One of her memories was "On Sundays we went with father and mother to a small chapel outside the town. Thomas Cook, (the founder of Cooks' Tours) had been a member there, before he went to live in Leicester. Does anyone know which chapel this was? Teresa

Thank you Nivard for the info. I shall speak to the Records Office regarding the Ashby Gaol or other. Regards George Pickering Rainham, Kent. -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 3:17 PM To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LEI] JOHN PICKERING OF PACKINGTON - CRIMINAL RECORDS Hi George Personally I would say he is more likely to be in a local prison rather than be sent further afield for a relatively short sentence like this I would ask at Leicestershire records office in Wigston who should be able to tell you if there were any other prisons around Leicestershire at the time Was there a gaol at Ashby de la Zouch for example Leicester Prison records are at the National Archives HM Prison Leicester: prison records 1866-1985 (DE 4766) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi George Personally I would say he is more likely to be in a local prison rather than be sent further afield for a relatively short sentence like this I would ask at Leicestershire records office in Wigston who should be able to tell you if there were any other prisons around Leicestershire at the time Was there a gaol at Ashby de la Zouch for example Leicester Prison records are at the National Archives HM Prison Leicester: prison records 1866-1985 (DE 4766) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)