Bob wrote: > Have you tried Military records at the PRO? > Ancestry.co.uk has an Arthur Needham in their > British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Overseas deaths, including War deaths are available on www.findmypast.com and certificates can be bought in the same way as those for entries in the regular GRO indexes from the GRO online.

Have you tried Military records at the PRO? Ancestry.co.uk has an Arthur Needham in their British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Bob May Sunshine Coast -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Saunderson Sent: Monday, 31 December 2007 9:55 AM To: Leicestershire-plus-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] Overseas deaths Whilst on the subject of overseas deaths, can anyone help with this problem? My uncle ARTHUR LEEDHAM joined the Rifle Brigade at the beginning of WW1 and was a sergeant in 1919. In 1919 he was posted to Basra in the Persian Gulf. At that time he was still a sergeant in the Rifle Brigade. Arthur married Alice Maud Darling in 1917 and she joined him in Basra probably in 1920. I know she died there not that long after arriving but I've been unable to locate any record of her death. There is a record of overseas deaths at the FRC covering deaths posted by the embassies but I could not find her listed. Has anyone any ideas where her death might be recorded? As a matter of interest, the army was not too successful in quelling the troublesome Arabs and the newly formed RAF was found to be was found to be much more competent means of keeping an eye on them. Arthur transferred to the RAF, although I'm not sure when, and retired after WW2 as a Flt.Lt. Tony. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1202 - Release Date: 29/12/2007 1:27 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 899 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Whilst on the subject of overseas deaths, can anyone help with this problem? My uncle ARTHUR LEEDHAM joined the Rifle Brigade at the beginning of WW1 and was a sergeant in 1919. In 1919 he was posted to Basra in the Persian Gulf. At that time he was still a sergeant in the Rifle Brigade. Arthur married Alice Maud Darling in 1917 and she joined him in Basra probably in 1920. I know she died there not that long after arriving but I've been unable to locate any record of her death. There is a record of overseas deaths at the FRC covering deaths posted by the embassies but I could not find her listed. Has anyone any ideas where her death might be recorded? As a matter of interest, the army was not too successful in quelling the troublesome Arabs and the newly formed RAF was found to be was found to be much more competent means of keeping an eye on them. Arthur transferred to the RAF, although I'm not sure when, and retired after WW2 as a Flt.Lt. Tony.

Hello Berry It will give me something to do until I start on my next WW1 book! He is actually buried in Iraq - see below- http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=627556 His number was M2/136133 which points to Motor in Army Service Corps. It was the ASC from 1889 but got its Royal title in 1918. The ref has - Braddock, Richard, Pte, M2/136133, R.A.S.C., 1916 Volume I1, page 82. Soldiers died in the great war has - Braddock, Richard, born Bloomsbury, London, enlisted london, Abode - Grays Inns Road, London, M2/136133, Private, died Persian Gulf, 18 August 1916. So he possibly died of illness. Hope that helps. Steve Berry Wraight <berry.wraight@googlemail.com> wrote: Hi Steve What a brave man you are. I do hope you do not get too flooded, If you do, I am - of course - happy to wait. I have little information on my man [my great uncle] other than what is on his enlistment paper, which I obtained from the Ancestry British Army WW1 service records. What I do know is as follows His name is Richard Braddock born 1892 Bloomsbury London. Family history states he died in France in 1916 but I have found nothing for that yet. His enlistment no is 136133 which states that he enlisted on 1/11/1915 It also mentions the Army Service Corp motor division, but not clear whether that is where he would be allocated so could be a complete red herring. If you find anything on his that would be brilliant. Many thanks Berry On 30/12/2007, Steve <morse.steve@btinternet.com> wrote: Hello Each I have the Overseas BMD references for The First World War. Example - year Volume Page Farby, George, Pte, 23711, N & D R 1916 I.44 247 (Notts and Derby Regiment) Whilst the death certificate does not usually give a great deal of information, I have found them useful on occasions. For example, one of my men was listed on the CWGC as being killed on 22/1/1916 and buried in France. I knew that he was in Egypt at the time. The death certificate gave me the following info - The Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment in the War of 1914-1921. number- 26774, rank Private 9th Bn, name Robinson Fred, age 24, birthplace England, date of death 22/11/1916, Place of death France, Killed in action. With the above proof, i could get the CWGC to amend their records. Officially for War Deaths the period was from 1914 to 1921. Obviously the more info you have, the more chance of getting the right man - Looking for a Fred Smith without any other info may lead to a large list! Stevem ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Researching 9th (service) Battalion Sherwood Foresters (Notts & Derbys Regiment) during the Great War. www.ypressalient.co.uk People ask me my religion - my religion is kindness - True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised. A politician is a person who gives your life for their country.

Hello Each I have the Overseas BMD references for The First World War. Example - year Volume Page Farby, George, Pte, 23711, N & D R 1916 I.44 247 (Notts and Derby Regiment) Whilst the death certificate does not usually give a great deal of information, I have found them useful on occasions. For example, one of my men was listed on the CWGC as being killed on 22/1/1916 and buried in France. I knew that he was in Egypt at the time. The death certificate gave me the following info - The Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment in the War of 1914-1921. number- 26774, rank Private 9th Bn, name Robinson Fred, age 24, birthplace England, date of death 22/11/1916, Place of death France, Killed in action. With the above proof, i could get the CWGC to amend their records. Officially for War Deaths the period was from 1914 to 1921. Obviously the more info you have, the more chance of getting the right man - Looking for a Fred Smith without any other info may lead to a large list! Stevem

Hi list, Leics. strays in Yesterdays updated records from Melbourne Settlement Examinations and Repton Settlement Examinations. As both parishes are close by to the County numerous names appear, to many to list here in full . but include from Melbourne Nathan BAYLEY William LAKIN Joseph JAQUIS Joseph HUMPHREY William BAKEWELL Thomas HICKINGBOTTOM James HEAP from Repton Joseph BAREFOOT mike http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

> > > Bit more on these other Bennetts were in the Norwegian Oslo(Christiania) cenus of 1865 not there in 1875( returned too England? Appear again in the 1900 census for Oslo,-Trondhjem(Tronheim), and Bergen > will just list names Trondhjem census 1900 > Alfred Bennett born 1866 in Christiania > Dorothea Bennett born 1871 in Ytterøen wife > Thomas Bennett born 1895 son > Lilian Bennett born 1896 daughter > Edgar Bennettt born 1898 son > Francis Bennett born 15-8-1900 son > > Bergen census 1900 > Fredrick Bennett born 1854 > Inga Anna Bennett born 1862 wife > > Christiania census 1900 > Charles Bennett born 1865 > Andrea Bennett nee Gjersøe born 1875 wife > Thomas Albert Bennett born 1892 son > Ellen Fredrikke Bennett born 30-6-1899 daughter > Anna Bennett born 1856 husband in BERGEN (PERHAPS THE SAME AS iNGER ANNA > > sorry Terry none of your names here but as they are an English family that made Norwegians of themselves and are definative related into a Bennett family in England thought worth adding it who knows when your brick wall comes down you may need them. seem to have conections into the travel agent industry > regards > Terry > Norway > > > > > >> From: i.risien@ntlworld.com >> To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:15:23 +0000 >> Subject: [LEI] SIDNEY BENNETT >> >> >> Hello list, >> is there a SKS who could search for any info on >> a SIDNEY BENNETT born 13/04/1915 at wigston,his >> father was george thomas and mother alice nee >> smart,his sister (my gran) rosetta coulson nee >> bennett never spoke of him so i have only just >> recently found that he was the youngest of the >> bennetts,my brick wall with this family is this >> alice everline bennett born 21/12/1896 who is >> the oldest of the family, any info on these >> 2 people would be most helpfull, >> >> many thanks for any help. >> terry. >> >> >> looking for information on these names. >> >> BENNETT >> early 1800s kibworth harcourt. >> ---------------------------------- >> BENNETT. >> mid 1800s great wigston or >> wigston magna. >> ---------------------------------- >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email >> Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

If you put a search in for Leicestershire villages, you need the first site on the page that comes up searching in google. Once up go into the villages and click on Wigston Magna. You need the village history link , click on that on the right hand side and scroll down the page to view all history projects. there you will find some Leicesterhire burials and the ones you need are in the Blaby file Hope this makes sense! or maybe this page will take you there where you select Wigston Magna http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/ Elaine --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! &#45; a smarter inbox.

Hello Terry Have had a look at my Leicestershire Project Disc, nothing for Bennetts in Gilmorton. Christenings at Wigston Alice Everline Bennett 28 Feb 1897 father George Thomas Bennett mother Alice Ann Bennett 5 Jun 1877 father Johnn Bennett and Ann Sarah Ann Bennett 4 Jun 1871 father George mother Eliza Marriage George Bennett 8 Nov 1869 father Thomas Bennett to Eliza Taylor There's a Harriett Bennett who has her daughter christened 5 Aug 1866, dau is called Mary Ann Jane Wa (just reads WA ) The rest of the entries are 5 entries for the Christenings of the children of Cave Bennett. The next and last entry is for a Christening 1573 Sorry only recognise Alice Eveline as definitely your relative but there are so few Bennetts is was worth giving you all of them Do you have these too Dec 1911 Hilda M Bennett mother's maiden name Smart Blaby 7a 46 Jun 1915 Sidney Bennett mother's maiden name Smart Blaby 7a 48 If you have a look here http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/blaby/blabycemeteryburials.html you will find burials in Blaby and there are 9 Bennetts buried there. The best I can do I'm afraid Elaine --------------------------------- Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good

Hi just been looking for Bennetter (a Norwegian seafareing family mainly from Stavanger,Bergen and Christiania( now Oslo) and found in the 1865 census for Christiania (Oslo) four Bennetts Thomas Bennett occupation agent aged 52 from England religion given as C of E married to Inger Marie Bennett housewife aged 33 from Næs in Romerike (an area to the north of Oslo in Akershus fylke) now the interesting bit lad the son Fredrick Bennett aged 13 born in England is given as "pleierson" usually if he is the son of one and step son of the other because his brother Charles Bennett aged 1 in 1865 is written up as son born in Christiania (Oslo) and Nationality given as English Normally it says in their first second or what ever marriage but of course not this time can send side for you if your interested Regards Terry Arendal Norway > From: i.risien@ntlworld.com > To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:20:48 +0000 > Subject: [LEI] BENNETT > > > Hi all, > re-posting my names from wigston @ kibworth > > BENNETT before 1860s kibworth harcourt, > " " after " " wigston magna or > great wigston > > many thanks, > terry. > > > looking for information on these names. > > BENNETT > early 1800s kibworth harcourt. > ---------------------------------- > BENNETT. > mid 1800s great wigston or > wigston magna. > ---------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Hello list, is there a SKS who could search for any info on a SIDNEY BENNETT born 13/04/1915 at wigston,his father was george thomas and mother alice nee smart,his sister (my gran) rosetta coulson nee bennett never spoke of him so i have only just recently found that he was the youngest of the bennetts,my brick wall with this family is this alice everline bennett born 21/12/1896 who is the oldest of the family, any info on these 2 people would be most helpfull, many thanks for any help. terry. looking for information on these names. BENNETT early 1800s kibworth harcourt. ---------------------------------- BENNETT. mid 1800s great wigston or wigston magna. ---------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Hi all, re-posting my names from wigston @ kibworth BENNETT before 1860s kibworth harcourt, " " after " " wigston magna or great wigston many thanks, terry. looking for information on these names. BENNETT early 1800s kibworth harcourt. ---------------------------------- BENNETT. mid 1800s great wigston or wigston magna. ---------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Hi Sandi, I looked at the "Conways" in the 1851 census, and I'm sure that Ellen is listed as unmarried - not a widow. Maybe other listed on here could check as well? (HO107 / 2187 Folio 58, page 16) Regards, Mark

Thank you all for trying to help, I thought I finally had solved my brickwall. Patrick Akins and Ellen Conway had a daughter Bridget 10 born in Liverpool on the 1861 census so I presumed they married before than, the family came from Ireland at some point and could have been married there but I can't find any records in either countries. I found a Ellen Conway with a baby daughter Bridget on the 1851 census in Liverpool, this Ellen was a widow and maybe that is my Ellen and I am looking in the wrong places. Ellen on the 1851 census lived next door to a shoe shop and Patrick was a shoemaker so I also got the idea maybe that is how they met. I found a daughter's marriage record and it had mother's maiden name as Conway but in those days someone could have presumed a previous marriage name was the maiden name. On the 1861 census their next daughter was born 2 years after Bridget so I just presumed that Bridget would be Patrick's natural child. I couldn't find the family or Patrick on the 1851 census. If anyone has any suggestions where else I can look it would be appriecated Thanks again Sandi On Dec 27, 2007 4:50 AM, Firebird <sparrer@gmail.com> wrote: > Sandi Akins wrote: > > > Hi, this question may sound stupid but, can a marriage be registered > > on one page same volume for the groom and a completely different page > > for the bride, I am not talking one page difference. I have found > > Patrick Akins Married vol20 page 137 and Ellen Conway Vol20 pg251, > > same year and quarter. > > No, they can't. The couple you mention didn't marry one another. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Researching, Akins, Atherton, Burgener, Cumming, Deans, Johnston, Mathews, Matthews,Mcdonald, McKenzie, Tedd, Taylor,Weston, Zieman, Ziemann My homepage http://theakins.net

I would just like to say thank you to Fire Bird, Also Harrold who has spent quiet a few hours helping me and I am pretty sure I am back on track now. Happy New Year Margaret

In a word, NO. Pages must match, but a transcription error might see a difference in page numbers Patrick and Ellen married in different quarters and did not marry each other. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1847 AKINS Patrick Liverpool 20137 Billington John Liverpool 20137 Brotherton Mary Ellen Liverpool 20137 Doyle David Liverpool 20137 Gray Mary Liverpool 20137 Harris Elizabeth Liverpool 20137 LAWSON James Liverpool 20137 Riley Margery Liverpool 20137 Smith Anne Liverpool 20137 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1847 BIRCH Joseph Liverpool 20251 BLACK Thomas Liverpool 20251 Conway Ellen Liverpool 20251 Cotterill Ellen Liverpool 20251 HOLMES Martha Liverpool 20251 Lyon Elizabeth Liverpool 20251 SANDFORD George Washington Liverpool 20251 TATLOCK William Liverpool 20251 Keith Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi Akins" <akinsfamily@gmail.com> To: "Leicester list" <leicestershire-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: [LEI] marriage record question > Hi, this question may sound stupid but, can a marriage be registered > on one page same volume for the groom and a completely different > page > for the bride, I am not talking one page difference. I have found > Patrick Akins Married vol20 page 137 and Ellen Conway Vol20 pg251, > same year and quarter. > Would getting credits for the England bmd site and looking at the > pages for either have any clues? > > Sandi Akins > > -- > Researching, Akins, Atherton, Burgener, Cumming, Deans, Johnston, > Mathews, Matthews,Mcdonald, McKenzie, Tedd, Taylor,Weston, Zieman, > Ziemann > My homepage http://theakins.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Margaret Howkins wrote: > I am trying to find the marriage of Doris Cecelia Graham Born 1895 > the eldest of Benjamin And Florence Graham. I have been twice on > find my past from 1910 to 1930 I am also trying Grayham. I am told > she lived either Birstal St or Syston St and had many children. No > one is sure if they were all hers or if some were fostered. I have > also tried FBMD and the IGI. Does any one know where to try next, > or any one she may have fostered. If she fostered children, there's unlikely to be any record as it may have been done unofficially. Try looking for a marriage well after 1930. She may have been living with a man and for some reason couldn't marry earlier. The IGI is an incomplete and increasingly unreliable resource so a lack of a marriage on there means nothing. FreeBMD doesn't go much beyond 1915 as yet. If the marriage isn't in the GRO indexes on findmypast (ancestry has the same ones) then you could try the relevant register office but she may have married away from her normal abode, especially if she already had a family and all the neighbours thought she and her man were already married.

Happy New Year To Every One I am trying to find the marriage of Doris Cecelia Graham Born 1895 the eldest of Benjamin And Florence Graham. I have been twice on find my past from 1910 to 1930 I am also trying Grayham. I am told she lived either Birstal St or Syston St and had many children. No one is sure if they were all hers or if some were fostered. I have also tried FBMD and the IGI. Does any one know where to try next, or any one she may have fostered. Thank You Margaret

Hi, its some time since i posted my interests so here goes ! WILLETT family of Bagworth Markfield Thornton Stanton under Bardon and Anstey. BYWATER family of Markfield Rothley Ratby and Shepshed. MARTIN family of Bagworth and Dunton Bassett. CORAH of Bagworth. CROWSHAW HARRIS of Bagworth. Any help or if i can help anyone would be great.Thanks a million. Keith in Malta.

Sandi Akins wrote: > Hi, this question may sound stupid but, can a marriage be registered > on one page same volume for the groom and a completely different page > for the bride, I am not talking one page difference. I have found > Patrick Akins Married vol20 page 137 and Ellen Conway Vol20 pg251, > same year and quarter. No, they can't. The couple you mention didn't marry one another.