Hi Listers, A quick email to say, thank to everyone who has replied to my question about, Marriages and witnesses at St. Margaret's Leicester, who I haven’t replied to off list. Kind regards Lynne

Can anyone help me with the CLOWES family at Woodhouse Eaves? Samuel CLOWES, an MP lived in Eaves St. He was married to one of the Okeover family and had 24 family and servants living in the house at the 1870 census. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Eaves St and have they any ideas of why my Great Grandma, Eliza Amelia FLAVELL was a scullery maid there at that time? Eliza came from a fairly wealthy family in Birmingham, but I believe her father had died. I would love to know if the families had some links. Stephanie. South wales

Hi Listers, Hope you are all well? I have a copy of the parish register for the marriage of one of my relatives who was married at St. Margaret's in 1832 one of his witnesses also appears as a witness for another marriage which took place on the same day, the witness was John Stringer. Was John Stringer a regular witness for people who where married at St. Margaret's and didn't have any witnesses of their own? TIA Lynne

Hello Lynne I believe you are correct in thinking that John Stringer often acted as a witness for couples married at St. Margaret's. He appears as a witness at the weddings of several of my ancestors who were married there. He is not an ancestor of mine. I was puzzled that his name came up so often and came to the conclusion that John Stringer was employed by the Church and was called on to be a witness when needed at marriages that took place at St. Margaret's. Best regards, Marilyn in Oregon USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Cox" <l8cox@btinternet.com> To: "Leicestershire-Plus" <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: [LEI] Marriages and witnesses at St. Margaret's Leicester > Hi Listers, > > Hope you are all well? > > I have a copy of the parish register for the marriage of one of my > relatives > who was married at St. Margaret's in 1832 one of his witnesses also > appears > as a witness for another marriage which took place on the same day, the > witness was John Stringer. Was John Stringer a regular witness for people > who where married at St. Margaret's and didn't have any witnesses of their > own? > > TIA > > Lynne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Howkins" <roymar@howkins1290.fsnet.co.uk> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: [LEI] Dudley > Hi > Is there any one researching a Dudley family. > I have a marriage Certificate of Albert Dudley marrying Doris Cecelia > Grahame 5 August 1916 he is age 21 Profession Sergeant M T A S C. His > father Williams Profession is a Doctor which has been a big surprise. Any > way at the moment I can fiend neither, I have had a go at military records > as well as B D M. > Any help to point me in the right direction would be appreciated > Thank You Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 7:52 AM

Hello list, is there sks who has access to electorial roll for wigston area who could tell me if there is a ALLEN THOMPSON livening in wigston area please,he is my grans sisters son. many thanks, terry ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Hi Is there any one researching a Dudley family. I have a marriage Certificate of Albert Dudley marrying Doris Cecelia Grahame 5 August 1916 he is age 21 Profession Sergeant M T A S C. His father Williams Profession is a Doctor which has been a big surprise. Any way at the moment I can fiend neither, I have had a go at military records as well as B D M. Any help to point me in the right direction would be appreciated Thank You Margaret

Hello list, looking for any info on COULSON name of wigston magna or oadby 1960 onwards, also THOMPSON name also wigston magna 1960s any info will be greatfully recived, many thanks, terry holmes. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

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Help! Can anyone help please? My great grandmother Eliza FLAVELL was a scullery maid in the home of Samuel Clowes and his wife Adelaide OKEOVER according to the 1871 index. Can anyone tell me where Eaves Street is in Woodhouse, or has the house a name? Has anyone any more information on Samuel CLOWES whose father, I believe, was MP for Leicester. I wonder why Eliza was a scullery maid as she came from a well heeled family, but I believe her father died of TB. Steph Vale of Glamorgan

Hello everyone, It's Janette here from Australia. I've been researching my maiden name for years. I'm descended from John GRUNDY & Elizabeth BALLARD who married 5.8.1740 in Fenny Drayton, Leics. I have photos & transcripts of the memorial stones from Fenny Drayton churchyard of John & Elizabeth & their children but I do not know where John & Elizabeth were born or their parents names. John died 21.3.1773 aged 64 (so born c1709) & Elizabeth died 20.4.1776 aged 55 (so born c1721) BUT I have not been able to find either of their births in Fenny Drayton, so don't know their parent's names. How can I get a copy of their marriage certificate?? Where were they born?? & who were their parents?? The GRUNDY family was in the cotton industry & were non-conformist & shifted to Salford in Lancashire. The GRUNDYs married into the ESTLIN & PRIOR families both non-conformist & I've researched those lines too. ------------------------------------------ My ancestor John Russell GRUNDY came to Australia in 1856 on the "Ben Nevis" & headed for the Ballarat goldfields. He was down as a "spinner" on the passenger list but ran a Tobacconsist & Importers business at the goldfields & I have his Tradesmans Token. Could someone please help me...how do I get a copy of the marriage certificate to perhaps find out where they were born & their parents names. I haven't found their births in Fenny Drayton, Leics. Hope someone can help me please, Regards, Janette (Jan) Pfeifer nee GRUNDY in Australia

I have found the following JACKSON Family in the 1881 Census. However I have had no luck finding them in any other Census. George William Collins Jackson was not born in the East Indies but in Sydney. Australia. His father was sent to Australia as a convict in 1814. George was fortunate to do his schooling in England and as far as we know never returned to Australia. George W C Jackson married Catherine Price in 1848 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales. Can anyone else find them in any of the other census? If so I would be ever so grateful. Dwelling: Old Town St Census Place: Dawlish, Devon, England Source: FHL Film 1341520 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2157 Folio 67 Page 22 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George C. JACKSON M 60 M East Indies Rel: Head Occ: Army Major Cavalry Retired Catherine P. JACKSO N M 58 F Llanilt, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Wife Occ: Army Major Cavalry Retired Wife Louisa G. JACKSON U 23 F Sheffield, York, England Rel: Daur Occ: Home Duties Maude L. JACKSON U 17 F Silloth, Cumberland, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Gertrude M. JACKSON U 17 F Silloth, Cumberland, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Bryan A Curran Flagstaff Hamilton NZ http://origins.typepad.com/origins/ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~origins/index.html

Hello, My Gt Gt Grandfather WILLIAM WILLIAMSON THURMAN was, according to the 1861 census, born in 1821 in Gaddesby Leics and according to his marriage certificate (1856) his father was also William, a hosier by trade. In the 1861 census William Jnr is living in Goole Yorkshire with his wife and son, I have never been able to find either of the Williams in 1841 or 1851 I know that THURMAN is quite a common name in Leics But I have not found any THURMAN's with a connection to Gaddesby, does anyone know of any THURMAN's in that area. William Junior married JANE GELL in Snaith, Yorks, I have been unable to find out who his mother was. I would appreciate any help I can get Regards Trevor

The IGI has William THURMAN bapt 14 Jul 1816 in Gaddesby son of William THURMAN and Mary Is this possibly him? Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leicestershire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Moody Sent: June 18, 2008 5:36 PM To: LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEI] WILIAM THURMAN, Gaddesby 1821 Hello, My Gt Gt Grandfather WILLIAM WILLIAMSON THURMAN was, according to the 1861 census, born in 1821 in Gaddesby Leics and according to his marriage certificate (1856) his father was also William, a hosier by trade. In the 1861 census William Jnr is living in Goole Yorkshire with his wife and son, I have never been able to find either of the Williams in 1841 or 1851 I know that THURMAN is quite a common name in Leics But I have not found any THURMAN's with a connection to Gaddesby, does anyone know of any THURMAN's in that area. William Junior married JANE GELL in Snaith, Yorks, I have been unable to find out who his mother was. I would appreciate any help I can get Regards Trevor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Martin, Do you have any idea as to which state William Clarke OLIVE could have come too? All the states have their own records - and like other places "never the twine shall meet". Quite a lot of New South Wales records can be accesses on ; http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm Queensland also has some records on line, at ; - http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/829.htm Victorian records are on CD's. To be on the safe side I will not mention the other states. Regards, Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin & Mary Olive" <m.olive@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:13 AM Subject: [LEI] Australian wanderers. > This is addressed to Australian listers or those who have access to > Australian records of arrivals from UK. > My great grandfather, John Olive, had a sister, Elizabeth, who had > an illegitimate male child in 1859 in Cosby, where he was christened > William Clarke Olive (Clarke being the surname of the putative father, who > lived next door). William was brought up by his grand-parents in Cosby, > but he went down to Essex as a barman, then he joined the army sometime > between 1881 and 1891,when he is listed in Little Warley Barracks as an > infantry soldier. He marries Eliza Snutch in Leicester Dec 1893 and > produces 4 children in 7 years and is in Leicester Prison in 1901. Local > gossip inferred that he subsequently abandonned his family. > There are no records as to how long he was in prison, nor for what > felony. However I have searched for his death in freeBMD over several > decades and many hours with no results. Recently Ancestry have produced > indices of Immigrants to Australia from the UK, but they do not offer a > "pay as you go". There are several "W (C)Olives" beween 1901 and 1910 in > the indices and I wonder if SKS, who has access to these records, could > check if my William is there. > I am in touch with his descendants, who would really like to know > what happened to him. > Tks/regards > Martin Olive > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is addressed to Australian listers or those who have access to Australian records of arrivals from UK. My great grandfather, John Olive, had a sister, Elizabeth, who had an illegitimate male child in 1859 in Cosby, where he was christened William Clarke Olive (Clarke being the surname of the putative father, who lived next door). William was brought up by his grand-parents in Cosby, but he went down to Essex as a barman, then he joined the army sometime between 1881 and 1891,when he is listed in Little Warley Barracks as an infantry soldier. He marries Eliza Snutch in Leicester Dec 1893 and produces 4 children in 7 years and is in Leicester Prison in 1901. Local gossip inferred that he subsequently abandonned his family. There are no records as to how long he was in prison, nor for what felony. However I have searched for his death in freeBMD over several decades and many hours with no results. Recently Ancestry have produced indices of Immigrants to Australia from the UK, but they do not offer a "pay as you go". There are several "W (C)Olives" beween 1901 and 1910 in the indices and I wonder if SKS, who has access to these records, could check if my William is there. I am in touch with his descendants, who would really like to know what happened to him. Tks/regards Martin Olive

Hi just to say Alt is forename in Norway, the 1801 census had more than 30 Altsdatter (Alt daughter) and Altsens (Alt son) perhaps a Norøn ancester long way in the past regards Terry Norway> From: j.b.ward@blueyonder.co.uk> To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:25:54 +0100> Subject: [LEI] Re LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 152 - Ault> > Geoff> > > > The Ault/Alt name (specifically in Shepshed) is on my to-do research list.> My line stems from Hannah Alt, baptised 29th September 1710 (verified),> daughter of Nathaniel Alt and Hannah Lester, who married by licence at> Shepshed 31st December 1701 (also verified). At present I am deeply involved> in researching another major line of my ancestry but expect to return to the> Alts later this year. Please let me know if this line is of interest to you> and I will come back to you in due course.> > > > Regards> > John Ward (Redditch, England).> > > > > > > > Message: 4> > Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:00:48 +1000> > From: "Geoff & Nina" <geofnina@bigpond.net.au>> > Subject: [LEI] Researching the following Names> > To: <LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com>> > Message-ID: <000001c8ce6a$1aa22bb0$0100000a@dell>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > > > Please contact me if anyone is researching any of the following names:> > > > > > > > Ault, Blis(s), Gill, Jaques, Swan, Tivey & Weston (all mainly pre 1700) in> > Leicestershire.> > > > > > > > Geoff (Sydney)> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE

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Hello Linda Your feeling of confusion is understandable. Not being a Harborian myself, I have had to look this up. William and Esther ESSEX must have been married in the Chapel of St Dionysus (Church of England) which became the Parish Church of Market Harborough in 1880, but before that was only a parochial chapel, the Parish Church being St Mary in Arden (now a ruined shell). The Congregational, formerly the Independent, Chapel was quite separate from either of these, and was the leading nonconformist chapel in the town. A number of its members, including two of my great great aunts who kept a milliner's shop in the High Street, were taken to court for refusing to pay the church rates. By law, in spite of having their own chapels, the nonconformists had to be baptised and married in the parish church or the parochial chapel, and normally buried in the parish churchyard. According to David Clifford's book 'My Ancestors were Congregationalists' (Society of Genealogists, 1997), the Union Chapel in Canterbury was indeed an Independent chapel like the Market Harborough one; and is now St Andrew's United Reformed Church, Canterbury (the Congregational and Presbyterian Churches of England combined in the 1960s to become the United Reformed Church, but the Market Harborough Congregational Chapel never joined the URC and is still an independent Congregational chapel). So, William ESSEX may well have been an Independent and a member of the MH Independent Chapel as well as having been married in the Parochial Chapel. I hope that clarifies things a bit for you. Best wishes, Peter Peter B Freshwater MA MCLIP FSAScot Edinburgh, Scotland peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk Researching BRUCE, FOLWELL, FOX, FRESHWATER, PERKINS, SWINGLER (Beds, Leics, Northants) HAUGHAN, JOHNSTONE, RICHARDSON (Annandale, Cumberland, Durham) DOW, FINDLAY, GRAY, JACK(SON), KENNEDY (Angus, Glasgow, Perth) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Fawcett" <linda-fawcett1@supanet.com> To: <LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: [LEI] Congregational Church > Hello Peter, > > My husband's ancestors William ESSEX and Esther SEAL were married at The Parochial Chapel Market Harborough on March 8th 1840 by W. SCARBOROUGH. > Is this the same church as the Congregational church or another one? > William was Christened at The Union Chapel in Canterbury on 29th October 1815. Would this be the same type of denomination as the congregational church? > > Please forgive my ignorance as I am Church of England and get a bit confused!! > > Kind regards, > > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Peter, My husband's ancestors William ESSEX and Esther SEAL were married at The Parochial Chapel Market Harborough on March 8th 1840 by W. SCARBOROUGH. Is this the same church as the Congregational church or another one? William was Christened at The Union Chapel in Canterbury on 29th October 1815. Would this be the same type of denomination as the congregational church? Please forgive my ignorance as I am Church of England and get a bit confused!! Kind regards, Linda