> Sorry - Australian Dollars show as "AUD" These abbreviations are always > 3 > digits each. And, I believe that GBP stands for Great Britain Pounds, not Great British Pounds as earlier repoerted. Vern in Ont _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 http://www.iolo.com

Apart from the £, I also need to use other characters for my German research, such as: Alt + 0223 ß Alt + 0246 ö Alt + 0252 ü Alt + 0134 ? (often used in German records for "the late" or "deceased") (My maternal Grandfather was a Geordie by the name of Otto August Wilhelm Kunde!) If you've any French or Quebecois research, you'll need Alt + 0231 ç Alt + 0234 ê and when talking about the weather, Alt + 0186 as in 10º C etc A fuller listing can be found at http://www.computer-bobs.com/altcodes.html There's various other ways of entering them in Word, but email tends to only take the above method. If you use them on a regular basis, they become second nature. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & £ Hi David My £ works quite fine thankyou <g> It has long been convention in e mail to use gbp for Great British Pound or usd for United States Dollar or whatever for the various countries currency Lap tops generally do not have a numeric key pad to the right of the keyboard so you cannot do it anyway Using gbp or whatever currency abbreviation, there is no ambiguity between a pound sign or a dollar sign Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) PS gbp is an awful lot easier to remember than Alt +0163 too <vbg> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 12:58 PM

Hi Adrian Well I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree re the gbp or GBP or whatever, I have yet to be questioned as to what gbp means and frankly its not that important as long as the message gets across It is completely unnecessary in my mind to have to remember various codes to achieve one simple symbol but whatever works for you is fine as far as I am concerned The Alt ** whatever business is as far as I am concerned rather peripheral Re family passed down stories, well perhaps I was a bit to harsh, although I did say to a smaller or larger degree, there is generally a semblance of truth in the anecdotes but they are often found to be mixed up with other facts so you need to perhaps take the stories with a pinch of salt (or more) Well done for getting back to the Mayflower and the Pilgrim Fathers That is a truly huge achievement and good for you for proving it, not many can stake that claim Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Nivard, I've admired your inputs over the years (including some help for me). For the first time, I'm having to disagree with you on a couple of things. The Alt 156 approach for £ works well and does become second nature. It's much clearer than GBP for people not used to it. I also use a range of other Alt codes. Also, I've found that passed down information is often true. It was a tradition in my (Australian) wife's family that they were descended from people on the Mayflower. In the last few days, I've found the last documentary link (a Massachusetts will) that provides the full proof that they are descended from not one but four of the people on the Mayflower. I'd say that passed down information is worth investigating but I'd agree that it shouldn't be trusted without proof. Keep up the good work, Adrian Prince Sunshine Coast Australia

You are most welcome Bob :-) Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) being of the colonial type from down under I was just about to send and ask what gbp meant, but you have saved me the task bob

Try STart/all programmes/assessories/system tools/character map At 07:55 19/08/2008 +1200, you wrote: >Although one cannot rely on non standard characters appearing as intended on >every one else's PC or Mac when transmitted via Internet email. > >A common one that changes is the Pound, which can appear as o or other. > >If there is money involved, UK Pounds gives no cause to question. £ might. > >Keith Wellington, NZ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Armstrong" <davidrli@iinet.net.au> >To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:18 AM >Subject: [LEI] Fw: £ & special characters > > >Apart from the £, I also need to use other characters for my German >research, such as: > >Alt + 0223 ß >Alt + 0246 ö >Alt + 0252 ü >Alt + 0134 ? (often used in German records for "the late" or >"deceased") >(My maternal Grandfather was a Geordie by the name of Otto August Wilhelm >Kunde!) > >If you've any French or Quebecois research, you'll need >Alt + 0231 ç >Alt + 0234 ê > >and when talking about the weather, Alt + 0186 as in 10º C >etc > >A fuller listing can be found at http://www.computer-bobs.com/altcodes.html > >There's various other ways of entering them in Word, but email tends to only >take the above method. If you use them on a regular basis, they become >second nature. > >David Armstrong >Maylands, >Western Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nivard Ovington > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & £ > > > Hi David > > My £ works quite fine thankyou <g> > > It has long been convention in e mail to use gbp for Great British Pound >or > usd for United States Dollar or whatever for the various countries >currency > > Lap tops generally do not have a numeric key pad to the right of the > keyboard so you cannot do it anyway > > Using gbp or whatever currency abbreviation, there is no ambiguity between >a > pound sign or a dollar sign > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > PS gbp is an awful lot easier to remember than Alt +0163 too <vbg> > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 >12:58 PM > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 >12:58 p.m. > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 16/08/2008 17:12 > > > Regards George. Home Page: http://web.localdial.com/users/airforce LRFHS Page: http://www.lrfhs.org.uk Jersey Centenary Battle of lowers:http://www.localdial.com/users/airforce/battle.html

Hi again It does sound very much like passed down information Which I have found in my family is invariably wrong by a smaller or larger degree Best wishes Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > I did ask my cousin where she got the information, but she never gave me > an > answer. > > Vern

Bigamy was and still is an alternative to Divorce, as one my Great Great Uncles demonstrated. However, in earlier days there was the form of Common Law Divorce whereby you took your wife to the market place and sold her. I can recall one of the family history society journals from another area reprinting a newspaper report from ca. 1790 on one such incident. Apparently the "purchaser" later tried to get a refund! David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Emma Faulkner To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & Newspapers David "Divorces were not that common in 1920" - does that mean the couple just split up and were automatically considered divorced e.g. after a certain length of time, or was it just generally considered that marriage was for life? I ask as my gg gramps left his wife, who subsequently remarried, but I can't find any record of a divorce. Cheers Em 2008/8/18 David Armstrong <davidrli@iinet.net.au> > Linda, > > Divorces were not that common in 1920, so if you've got the date and place > of the court case, it should be worthwhile looking in the local newspaper > for reports. There was no bar on reporting divorce cases then. > > David Armstrong > Maylands, > Western Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Fawcett > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records on Find My Past > > > hello Nivard, > In march 2006 i sent to the courts in London regarding the divorce of my > Nana in 1920. > It cost me £25 and all I got was 3 copies of the decree nisi with the > names > of my nana and her former husband. No co-respondent name, no details etc.i > was most disappointed. > In August 06 I found a slip of paper in the envelope, which I had missed. > It > asked me to write to a Mr Brewster if I required the grounds for the > divorce. naturally I wrote immediately. i got a reply telling me that Mr > Brewster no longer worked there and that the document which I had was all > there was. > Following the link which you posted for Susie, I have now found the name > of > the co-respondent (who was my grand father) and will be writing to them > again to request these other documents. > I am so grateful to you. > many thanks, > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://schnozzles.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 12:58 PM

Linda, While the court case might have taken place in London, (as Paul McCartney's has more recently), if they were from Manchester, then the Mancunian newspapers would have taken a close interest. It's a bit like the reputed headlines in Aberdeen from 1912 "Titanic sinks: Aberdonian man drowns!" David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Fawcett To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & Newspapers Hello David, I had thought about the newspapers, but they were living in Manchester and had to go to London for the divorce, in 1919. As I live in Cheshire, I can't go to London to look in the newspapers. I have tried the Times online but not got anywhere. When I can get to Manchester, I want to check the local papers there, but I think that the Times is the likeliest. Thank you, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Armstrong" <davidrli@iinet.net.au> To: <leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & Newspapers Linda, Divorces were not that common in 1920, so if you've got the date and place of the court case, it should be worthwhile looking in the local newspaper for reports. There was no bar on reporting divorce cases then. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Fawcett To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records on Find My Past hello Nivard, In march 2006 i sent to the courts in London regarding the divorce of my Nana in 1920. It cost me £25 and all I got was 3 copies of the decree nisi with the names of my nana and her former husband. No co-respondent name, no details etc.i was most disappointed. In August 06 I found a slip of paper in the envelope, which I had missed. It asked me to write to a Mr Brewster if I required the grounds for the divorce. naturally I wrote immediately. i got a reply telling me that Mr Brewster no longer worked there and that the document which I had was all there was. Following the link which you posted for Susie, I have now found the name of the co-respondent (who was my grand father) and will be writing to them again to request these other documents. I am so grateful to you. many thanks, Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.5/1618 - Release Date: 18/08/2008 06:51 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 12:58 PM

Nivard I think you'll find far more people, especially internationally, will recognize and understand the "£" then the "gbp" which is easily confused with "gdp" and "gnp". David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & £ Hi Nova With great respect, what is the point in doing it when gbp serves much better, easier and quicker Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Or, alternatively, Alt 156 Nova Gilroy Mandurah Western Australia If you don't have the "£" on your keyboard, you can use the numeric keypad to the right on your keyboard and type < Alt +0163 > and you'll get the £ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 12:58 PM

Hello list, is there anyone on list who has a VERONICA coulson nee lee in there tree,she married a john barry coulson around 1960 ish at oadby terry. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Well, my query seemed to initiate a very welcome flurry of activity on the list! Thanks to everyone who responded and got involved, especially Nivard. To David Armstrong....I am in Burray in Orkney. If I can ever help with any Orkney research, please do get in touch. Regards to all Suzie (from Orkney)

Hi Vern I would have thought that with that short a marriage that an annulment would have been sought rather than a divorce The fact she did not marry BOOTH seems to tell the tale that there was no divorce Why go to the trouble of divorce then not remarry, given the problems that may ensue with inheritance I would ask the question of your cousin where did he get the information of the desertion order Best wishes Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard > > I got the date of this desertion order from a cousin in England who is > also > researching the family. Actually, Selina didn't marry the third guy. She > first married William DAVEY who was killed in a railway accident at > Matlock > 12 Jul 1861. She married John BLAGG 20 Nov 1862, so she didn't waste > much > time. John didn't waste much time either because he supposedly deserted > he > by 10 Feb 1863. I don't get that because I would think as you have said

Or, alternatively, Alt 156 Nova Gilroy Mandurah Western Australia If you don't have the "£" on your keyboard, you can use the numeric keypad to the right on your keyboard and type < Alt +0163 > and you'll get the £

Hi though using a Norwegian keyboard, £$€ seem to come up with out trouble note that any bank statement here when where things bought abroad use GBP, and USD, Euro,Dollar Aus (Australian dollar) etc. they do not use the lower case gbp regards Terry Norway > From: davidrli@iinet.net.au > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:55:02 +0800 > Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & £ > > Nivard > > I think you'll find far more people, especially internationally, will recognize and understand the "£" then the "gbp" which is easily confused with "gdp" and "gnp". > > David Armstrong > Maylands, > Western Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nivard Ovington > To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records & £ > > > Hi Nova > > With great respect, what is the point in doing it when gbp serves much > better, easier and quicker > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > Or, alternatively, Alt 156 > > Nova Gilroy > Mandurah > Western Australia > > > If you don't have the "£" on your keyboard, you can use the numeric keypad > to the right on your keyboard and type < Alt +0163> and you'll get the £ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 12:58 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE

Linda, Divorces were not that common in 1920, so if you've got the date and place of the court case, it should be worthwhile looking in the local newspaper for reports. There was no bar on reporting divorce cases then. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Fawcett To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records on Find My Past hello Nivard, In march 2006 i sent to the courts in London regarding the divorce of my Nana in 1920. It cost me £25 and all I got was 3 copies of the decree nisi with the names of my nana and her former husband. No co-respondent name, no details etc.i was most disappointed. In August 06 I found a slip of paper in the envelope, which I had missed. It asked me to write to a Mr Brewster if I required the grounds for the divorce. naturally I wrote immediately. i got a reply telling me that Mr Brewster no longer worked there and that the document which I had was all there was. Following the link which you posted for Susie, I have now found the name of the co-respondent (who was my grand father) and will be writing to them again to request these other documents. I am so grateful to you. many thanks, Linda

If you don't have the "£" on your keyboard, you can use the numeric keypad to the right on your keyboard and type < Alt +0163 > and you'll get the £ Also, Susie say hello to Orkney for me! Whereabouts are you? My paternal grandmother's line is from Walls. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: leicestershire-plus@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [LEI] Divorce Records on Find My Past Hi Susie the ones I have purchased have been 8.50gbp, Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK)

Nivard - you are a gem!!!!!!! Thanks so much for this little tutorial - believe it or not, I didn't detect the link under "the catalogue", hence I never found the search page (which I have now done!!!!!). I'm now due for some HEAVY searching!!!! Thanks again! Megan in Sydney On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Megan > > No we don't block Aussies accessing the UK > (in fact they don't block anybody from anywhere <g>) > > In the National Archives > If you go to "the catalogue" under search the archives menu (red bar at > top) > > Enter "the catalogue" > > Enter your surname in the first search box and J77 in the Department or > Series Code box > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > > Hi List! > > > > Thanks to Nivard's recent response regarding the National Archives, I > > wonder > > if some kind soul (SKS!!!!) would explain how one can see the actual > data! > > > > > > I successfully used Nivard's link < > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=53 > > > > and can see the "first page" of the NAA, however, after following all the > > links on the page, and by looking under the Quick Reference and Full > > Details, I am STILL unable to get to the level of detail that Nivard > > provided in his response!!!! > > > > > > I guess it must be the 'tyranny of distance' that prevents this poor > > Antipodean from entering the hallowed halls of the NAA!!!! > > > > Any help, or reference to assistance in reading online NAA data, > please??? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Megan in Sydney Australia! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List! Thanks to Nivard's recent response regarding the National Archives, I wonder if some kind soul (SKS!!!!) would explain how one can see the actual data! I successfully used Nivard's link < http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=53> and can see the "first page" of the NAA, however, after following all the links on the page, and by looking under the Quick Reference and Full Details, I am STILL unable to get to the level of detail that Nivard provided in his response!!!! I guess it must be the 'tyranny of distance' that prevents this poor Antipodean from entering the hallowed halls of the NAA!!!! Any help, or reference to assistance in reading online NAA data, please??? Regards, Megan in Sydney Australia! On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Susie > > This may help > > <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=53> > > Under J77 there is > > > Context : quick reference > J Records of the Supreme Court of Judicature and related courts > Division within J Records of the Family Division and predecessors > J 77 Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Supreme Court of > Judicature: Divorce and Matrimonial Causes Files > Subseries within J 77 > J 77/168 > > Record Summary > Scope and content Divorce Court File: 4165. Appellant: James Compton. > Respondent: Mary Compton. Co-respondent: [...] Gardner. Type: Husband's > petition for divorce [hd]. > Covering dates 1875 > Availability Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI > Act: > 30 years > Held by The National Archives, Kew > > > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > > Still looking for James COMPTON, my ggf, whom I know was married twice. > > > > On FindMyPast I came across a category called Divorce and Matrimonial > > causes.There was a record there of a James COMPTON dated 1875 which fits > > beautifully as I know his second marriage was 1876. > > > > I paid to see the record. It is one A4 page with names in alphabetical > > order > > and in date order. At the beginning of each name or record there is a > > number. In each case on the page, this number has been crossed out and a > > different number put in. The deleted numbers are in sequence but the > > numbers > > inserted in their place are not in sequence at all. There is no > indication > > of place at all. The page is hand-written. > > > > The record itself reads... > > COMPTON James v COMPTON Mary and GARDNER. > > It is the last entry for 1875. > > > > Has anyone used these records/sources before? > > Can anyone tell me where this record comes from? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Suzie (from Orkney) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > LEICESTERSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking for any descendents of James Down, born 1831 in Leicester, son of James Down, surgeon IN LEICESTER,(thought to come from the Hythe area in Kent) and Hannah Sheffield (of Syston) He married Jane Good of Suffolk Between 1862 and 1885 the had 10 children, Emma Down Mary Down = Henry William N Wood Edward Down Alfred Down = Ellen Lydia Brown Henry George Down Elizabeth J Down = Horace Stanners Alice Florence Down = Charles Henry Errey Ellen Sophia Down Frederick Charles Down Grace Olivia Down Alison

Hi Nivard I did ask my cousin where she got the information, but she never gave me an answer. Vern _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 http://www.iolo.com